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An End To College Basketballs One and Dones? - Attackcoog - 03-05-2018 12:33 PM
Current NBA commissioner Adam Silver and several of his top advisers have been engaged in listening tours and information-gathering missions with an array of stakeholders for months. That has included formal meetings with the National Basketball Players Association about adjusting the so-called "one-and-done" age-limit rule. But Silver's aim is much more comprehensive than simply re-opening the door for 18-year-olds to play in the NBA, sources said.
A plan is expected to include the NBA starting relationships with elite teenagers while they are in high school, providing skills to help them develop both on and off the court. It would ultimately open an alternate path to the NBA besides playing in college and a way 18-year-olds could earn a meaningful salary either from NBA teams or as part of an enhanced option in the developmental G League, sources said.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22615784/nba-making-plans-get-involved-high-school-level-once-again-espn
RE: An End To College Basketballs One and Dones? - Eldonabe - 03-05-2018 01:02 PM
WOW - the NCAA would be better and worse if that happened.
BAD - No more marquee players on these rosters. All the kids on the bubble with "the dream" are going to try the get paid route too. It will be a watered down league for sure.
GOOD - much better "teams" as they will play together longer. GOOD coaches will separate from the OK coaches who have a great season because they can land a great player on their roster (see Kruger, Lon or Barnes, Rick)
BAD - the top teams are still going to want to compete ($$$$) to get these kids
GOOD - it would force the SHAM that is NCAA no pay rules - this will expose them either way. If the NCAA digs in and say NO PAY TO PLAY - the second a top HS prospect goes to college instead of cashing D League checks everyone will be asking what the kid got to go to school instead. The NCAA has to do something.
RE: An End To College Basketballs One and Dones? - mj4life - 03-05-2018 01:30 PM
This plan if implemented would hurt the AAU
system more than the NCAA. The NBA could give kids real info on what's in their best interest. Either way we are talking about 15 to 20 legit prospects a year.
RE: An End To College Basketballs One and Dones? - bullet - 03-05-2018 01:30 PM
(03-05-2018 01:02 PM)Eldonabe Wrote: WOW - the NCAA would be better and worse if that happened.
BAD - No more marquee players on these rosters. All the kids on the bubble with "the dream" are going to try the get paid route too. It will be a watered down league for sure.
GOOD - much better "teams" as they will play together longer. GOOD coaches will separate from the OK coaches who have a great season because they can land a great player on their roster (see Kruger, Lon or Barnes, Rick)
BAD - the top teams are still going to want to compete ($$$$) to get these kids
GOOD - it would force the SHAM that is NCAA no pay rules - this will expose them either way. If the NCAA digs in and say NO PAY TO PLAY - the second a top HS prospect goes to college instead of cashing D League checks everyone will be asking what the kid got to go to school instead. The NCAA has to do something.
I think its mostly good. Inexperienced players who are incredible athletes often have some sloppy play in between their spectacular moments. You'll see more experienced teams at the top of the tournament.
And from the players standpoint, although some will make bad decisions, its good that they have better options. I think its all good for them that they have the freedom to fully go for their NBA dream. They do have options now (Europe and minor league ball), but they should get the full range.
RE: An End To College Basketballs One and Dones? - arkstfan - 03-05-2018 01:38 PM
There will be no one and done marquee players. The guys needing 2-4 years to develop will likely still choose the NCAA and will become stars, just as they do now.
Honestly this is a good thing if you like the amateur model. Skim the best and the cheating value of what is left isn't nearly as high.
RE: An End To College Basketballs One and Dones? - Wedge - 03-05-2018 01:47 PM
It's only a fix if the NBA, in addition to providing a way for high school players to play pro basketball, also stops drafting players who have only played one season of college basketball. In other words, something like the MLB rule which gives players the option of either turning pro out of high school or going to college and not being draft-eligible until after their third college season.
If one-and-done in college is still an option, then getting paid $26,000 to play in the G-League is not going to sway the kind of players who are allegedly getting $100,000 from shoe companies and/or street agents to spend 7 months in college.
RE: An End To College Basketballs One and Dones? - Frank the Tank - 03-05-2018 01:51 PM
From a player's standpoint, I think the key is that the NCAA is going to have to allow players to viably explore opportunities under this proposed NBA system (e.g. sign an agent) without having to jeopardize their college eligibility. My issue with the pre-1-and-done system is that there were too many players that made choices to enter the draft with little-to-no objective advice being provided along with no option for college if they didn't end up getting drafted. That doesn't benefit anyone involved.
RE: An End To College Basketballs One and Dones? - arkstfan - 03-05-2018 01:53 PM
(03-05-2018 01:47 PM)Wedge Wrote: It's only a fix if the NBA, in addition to providing a way for high school players to play pro basketball, also stops drafting players who have only played one season of college basketball. In other words, something like the MLB rule which gives players the option of either turning pro out of high school or going to college and not being draft-eligible until after their third college season.
If one-and-done in college is still an option, then getting paid $26,000 to play in the G-League is not going to sway the kind of players who are allegedly getting $100,000 from shoe companies and/or street agents to spend 7 months in college.
If they want it to work, then it will need to follow the MLB model where players are offered a fat signing bonus then spend a minimum time in the developmental league.
Maybe they need dual drafts. A two-round draft for players already eligible to be drafted because they are international players or have three years of college and a single round high school draft for U20 players.
RE: An End To College Basketballs One and Dones? - mj4life - 03-05-2018 02:19 PM
IMO the NBA will sign & place prospects deemed NBA ready under this program until they become draft eligible. This program will likely require some form of vocational/life skills training. So the NCAA may still be the best option for many to showcase & develop their skills even if they have to make a 2 year commitment
RE: An End To College Basketballs One and Dones? - Eldonabe - 03-05-2018 03:07 PM
How about like the old days - let the NBA draft the players rights and hold them for two years - no agents allowed.
The kid can stay and "develop" for 2 more years if he wishes (and the team that drafts him isn't ready for him yet) - if he doesn't develop or gets in trouble or whatever, he goes back into the draft pool. It puts some pressure on that kid to work hard and get better and if he doesn't it's rally on the player.
They do it for Hockey now. It could make a mess of the NBA if teams get rights to a really good player, and don't call him up until they suck for another year to get a second quality player; but then again, maybe that would actually help the bottom teams get better a little faster - Philly did it in a backwards sort of way and it is paying dividends now......
RE: An End To College Basketballs One and Dones? - ken d - 03-05-2018 03:09 PM
(03-05-2018 01:30 PM)mj4life Wrote: This plan if implemented would hurt the AAU system more than the NCAA. The NBA could give kids real info on what's in their best interest. Either way we are talking about 15 to 20 legit prospects a year.
My feelings wouldn't be hurt at all if the AAU system took a hit. Most kids aren't getting much serious coaching - about basketball or life - from their AAU team.
RE: An End To College Basketballs One and Dones? - Attackcoog - 03-05-2018 09:25 PM
(03-05-2018 03:09 PM)ken d Wrote:(03-05-2018 01:30 PM)mj4life Wrote: This plan if implemented would hurt the AAU system more than the NCAA. The NBA could give kids real info on what's in their best interest. Either way we are talking about 15 to 20 legit prospects a year.
My feelings wouldn't be hurt at all if the AAU system took a hit. Most kids aren't getting much serious coaching - about basketball or life - from their AAU team.
Yup. Its all about getting your stats and giving the AAU coaches a sense of importance. There really isnt much coaching going on. The only real advantage is that the kids are playing against a generally higher quality of player than you see in the typical HS league.
RE: An End To College Basketballs One and Dones? - bluesox - 03-06-2018 10:59 AM
Maybe what the nba should do is have 32 g league teams. Each franchise has 1 team than the NBA owns 2 teams with those 2 teams being for 18-21 year old players. Maybe put them both in Vegas and run them as a college/boarding school type environment. Vegas might not be the best location with all the distractions so Sioux Falls could work.