Quote:Thursday's complaint, filed in Boone County, claims that for more than 10 years, Walgreens (WBA) filled "massive" and "suspicious" orders of opioids and failed to report them to authorities or put a stop to the shipments.

Beshear wants Walgreens to stop "over-dispensing opioids" and "filling suspicious orders." He also wants the company to pay back the amount it earned from the allegedly illegal gains.

Walgreens declined to comment on the pending litigation.

Related: The opioid crisis is draining America's workforce

Beshear said in a statement on Thursday that Walgreens has "significantly harmed the health of our families in fueling the opioid epidemic."

He has filed a number of lawsuits over the state's health crisis. This year, he sued drug maker Johnson & Johnson (JNJ) as well as opioid distributors AmerisourceBergen (ABC), Cardinal Health (CAH) and McKesson Corporation (MCK) over their alleged roles in Kentucky's epidemic.

(06-15-2018 12:00 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I got the 3rd degree from Walgreens trying to fill a script of Oxycodone after surgery. Told him to phuck off and took it to Rite Aid. Hadn't had such a script in several years, but the pharmacist needs to mind their own phucking business. It isn't any of his business why a doctor prescribed the medicine. 3 years later I tore my rotator cuff and the doc refused to give me a script. She wouldn't even give me a non-narcotic pain pill... offered an anti-inflammatory shot that I paid over $100 for and didn't do anything. As a result, I didn't sleep for 2 weeks and my work suffered because my mind doesn't function off no sleep. So in the last 6 years, I have had one script and had to go to 2 pharmacies to get it filled. I am all about flagging abusers, but if I am an adult, not an abuser, and want a script so I can sleep with a torn muscle or after a tooth extraction, what is the problem? I can't get proper care because some people are junkies? This schit is getting out of hand.

(06-15-2018 12:00 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I got the 3rd degree from Walgreens trying to fill a script of Oxycodone after surgery. Told him to phuck off and took it to Rite Aid. Hadn't had such a script in several years, but the pharmacist needs to mind their own phucking business. It isn't any of his business why a doctor prescribed the medicine. 3 years later I tore my rotator cuff and the doc refused to give me a script. She wouldn't even give me a non-narcotic pain pill... offered an anti-inflammatory shot that I paid over $100 for and didn't do anything. As a result, I didn't sleep for 2 weeks and my work suffered because my mind doesn't function off no sleep. So in the last 6 years, I have had one script and had to go to 2 pharmacies to get it filled. I am all about flagging abusers, but if I am an adult, not an abuser, and want a script so I can sleep with a torn muscle or after a tooth extraction, what is the problem? I can't get proper care because some people are junkies? This schit is getting out of hand.

(06-15-2018 12:15 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-15-2018 12:00 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I got the 3rd degree from Walgreens trying to fill a script of Oxycodone after surgery. Told him to phuck off and took it to Rite Aid. Hadn't had such a script in several years, but the pharmacist needs to mind their own phucking business. It isn't any of his business why a doctor prescribed the medicine. 3 years later I tore my rotator cuff and the doc refused to give me a script. She wouldn't even give me a non-narcotic pain pill... offered an anti-inflammatory shot that I paid over $100 for and didn't do anything. As a result, I didn't sleep for 2 weeks and my work suffered because my mind doesn't function off no sleep. So in the last 6 years, I have had one script and had to go to 2 pharmacies to get it filled. I am all about flagging abusers, but if I am an adult, not an abuser, and want a script so I can sleep with a torn muscle or after a tooth extraction, what is the problem? I can't get proper care because some people are junkies? This schit is getting out of hand.

Pharmacies are required by law to vet out certain prescriptions. If a pharmacist gave you a lot of sh*t about a prescription, then you probably need to change doctors.

(06-15-2018 12:17 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-15-2018 12:15 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-15-2018 12:00 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I got the 3rd degree from Walgreens trying to fill a script of Oxycodone after surgery. Told him to phuck off and took it to Rite Aid. Hadn't had such a script in several years, but the pharmacist needs to mind their own phucking business. It isn't any of his business why a doctor prescribed the medicine. 3 years later I tore my rotator cuff and the doc refused to give me a script. She wouldn't even give me a non-narcotic pain pill... offered an anti-inflammatory shot that I paid over $100 for and didn't do anything. As a result, I didn't sleep for 2 weeks and my work suffered because my mind doesn't function off no sleep. So in the last 6 years, I have had one script and had to go to 2 pharmacies to get it filled. I am all about flagging abusers, but if I am an adult, not an abuser, and want a script so I can sleep with a torn muscle or after a tooth extraction, what is the problem? I can't get proper care because some people are junkies? This schit is getting out of hand.

Pharmacies are required by law to vet out certain prescriptions. If a pharmacist gave you a lot of sh*t about a prescription, then you probably need to change doctors.

Then the law needs to change.

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(06-15-2018 12:00 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I got the 3rd degree from Walgreens trying to fill a script of Oxycodone after surgery. Told him to phuck off and took it to Rite Aid. Hadn't had such a script in several years, but the pharmacist needs to mind their own phucking business. It isn't any of his business why a doctor prescribed the medicine. 3 years later I tore my rotator cuff and the doc refused to give me a script. She wouldn't even give me a non-narcotic pain pill... offered an anti-inflammatory shot that I paid over $100 for and didn't do anything. As a result, I didn't sleep for 2 weeks and my work suffered because my mind doesn't function off no sleep. So in the last 6 years, I have had one script and had to go to 2 pharmacies to get it filled. I am all about flagging abusers, but if I am an adult, not an abuser, and want a script so I can sleep with a torn muscle or after a tooth extraction, what is the problem? I can't get proper care because some people are junkies? This schit is getting out of hand.

(06-15-2018 12:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-15-2018 12:00 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I got the 3rd degree from Walgreens trying to fill a script of Oxycodone after surgery. Told him to phuck off and took it to Rite Aid. Hadn't had such a script in several years, but the pharmacist needs to mind their own phucking business. It isn't any of his business why a doctor prescribed the medicine. 3 years later I tore my rotator cuff and the doc refused to give me a script. She wouldn't even give me a non-narcotic pain pill... offered an anti-inflammatory shot that I paid over $100 for and didn't do anything. As a result, I didn't sleep for 2 weeks and my work suffered because my mind doesn't function off no sleep. So in the last 6 years, I have had one script and had to go to 2 pharmacies to get it filled. I am all about flagging abusers, but if I am an adult, not an abuser, and want a script so I can sleep with a torn muscle or after a tooth extraction, what is the problem? I can't get proper care because some people are junkies? This schit is getting out of hand.

The government might want to start limiting the amount of cigs a company can make and a store can sell.

Same goes for beer
same goes for wine
same goes for liquor

each affect our medical cost more than any pain pill ever could
each kills more people than pain meds and especially the low to med range opioids
each puts a strain on our state and federal resources than low to med range diploids
each is responsible for more addiction than all opioids put together

Why should people in pain suffer because of addicts? There are government rules and laws to cover the abuse. But the government will not be satisfied till it's almost impossible to get pain meds.

A addict is a addict and if they can't get their fix ......

they move on to the next thing that makes their body feel good. It's the same with all addicts even those in the above. If you cut off cigs, they would go black market. Cut off liquor, black market or grow/make their own.

A addict is a addict....

treat the addiction and when you do that find those people a job that makes them think their life is OK. Unless you change both of those. A addict is going to find something to make them feel better and all the rules or laws in the world is not going to change that.

(06-15-2018 01:07 PM)banker Wrote:  What about this?

https://futurism.com/west-virginia-town-3000-received-21-million-opioid-pills-10-years/


"An ongoing investigation by the House Energy and Commerce Committee has found that drug companies are dumping staggering amounts of highly addictive and dangerous opioid pills into small towns in West Virginia. Over the course of ten years (2006 – 2016) nearly 21 million pills of hydrocodone and oxycodone were sent to just two pharmacies in Williamson, West Virginia, a tiny town with a population of only 3,191, according to the latest census data."


Can't tell me that the drug companies and the pharmacies aren't to blame here.

(06-15-2018 02:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Sorry for such a long post but this subject is something near and dear to me....so I had to get my say. Even if it's not read.

At some point this war becomes a cause and affect in a cycle that when you try to over govern it it creates a whole new problem. Then after a number of years big business (not just drug companies) have billions invested in one part of the never ending cycle.

Now here is what I'm talking about

You start with a drug , lets just say drug, and not just limit it to pain meds. So you have a drug and the drug companies entice doctors into prescribing it as the new wonder drug. This is why you see new addiction problems every 5 to 10 years. While the drug helps a lot of people and most of those taking the drug dont misuse it.....some do.

At some point the government gets involved making new laws and putting addicts in jail by the thousands across the country. This creates a demand for more prison beds and when that gets over ran, more county jail beds to house the state prisoners till a bed opens up. Before long you have large jails that are about twice to three times the beds needed for the county. I will get back to that in a moment but want to touch on a new industry that pops up out of the ever growing prison system.....

Private canteens. Those companies have grown into billions of dollars with the explosion of prisoners. Some supply jails with meals and some supply prisoners with canteen and make no mistake about it. People in jail and prison LOVE canteen day and they spend huge amounts of money on over price stock that is 25 to 50% higher than on the streets. I think President Bush's family is a major stock holder in one company.

Lets get back to jails and not only do you have county jails 3x what's needed you also have private prisons popping up to take care of the number of people going to prison. Not only strictly drugs but also from other crimes from drug use and if you are still with me I'm getting to that part .

So after 20 years or soon this war on drugs the government imprisoning millions of people on drug and drug related charges has created multi billion dollar private companies that have a stake in making sure there's enough people to fill those beds. You have counties that spent millions and 10s of millions of dollars on large high tech jails that have a vested interest in making sure those beds are being filled.

Now I will tie it all together to drugs and addiction and make no mistake most of the problems we see today are tied into three things. Drugs. Addiction. Government

Early on the street price for a drug is low so you have addicts that's OK with the price and can feed their addiction. At some point in any drug that is addictive and not just opioids. The government is going to create new laws and make it a target. That does two things. First it sends the price higher and higher and that addict is going to do everything they can to get their drug of choice.

So you start seeing theft crimes going up. You start seeing birth rates going up in addicts...it's easier for a girl that is addict to share someone else drugs by spreading her legs than paying $60 for a hit of oxycontin. Hell I know 18 to 20 year old girls that will blow you for 2 hydrocodone 10s that has a street value of $8 each. These are not your hard looking addicts.

Anyways not only are prison beds being filled by the millions on addicts but also other crime created by the higher market cost of the governments crackdown on limiting the numbers of a drug. Before oxycontin it was morphine and dilaudids that the harder cord pill popper addicts wanted....

well till the street price went up to about $1.5 dollars a MG so about $90 for 60mg. Those people moved on to the next best thing when oxycontin started hitting the streets. Make it too hard to get any drugs in that class and people move on to the street drugs like Heroin. Today we are seeing record numbers coming back for Heroin users.

oxycontin, morphine, and dilaudids, heroin are drugs that are mostly shot up which causes a whole new class of problems. One that my brother found out. It killed his liver and luckily he did get a liver transplant when he was with in hours of dying. Luckily also after one relapse two years after the transplant (just pills, no shooting up)he's drug free for the last 5 years.

Then when you make something so hard to get people fall back to something they can make or get cheap enough from the huge supplies crossing our borders....Meth.

If anyone has made it this far (which I doubt) I'm going to end this and tie it all together. In our war on drugs we have created a country of addicts as criminals with prison records. We did that because to fight this war our government did it with laws. Laws that created the need for huge numbers of jail and prison beds. Once you get billions and billions and billions of dollars tied up in the private sector and counties....

it's not easy to step away from the pressure of needing to make sure those beds are full. It defeats the purpose of figuring out treatment. One of the reasons treatment is hard to work today once you get that record it much harder to over come today than 20 or 30 years ago. Hell go by any older motel (any city large or small) and you will see they are doing great. Those rooms are being filled by people who's paying $850 a month because housing is hard after you been to prison on drug charges....

Is there a drug problem? Yes, but there a lot bigger problem with our government fighting this battle with more and more laws. Laws that we tax payers are spending billions of dollars on when treatment and job placement/skill training would be a lot less.

As I said it's a cycle and not just drug use but a cycle our government created and to many important people would lose billions if those beds go unused.

A addict is a addiction and it doesn't have to be a crime. We all like to say this is a different world today than 30 years ago. Well this is one of the major reasons. Again Sorry for such a long post but this is one area that I been involved with for a long time. I've seen many family members die from addiction and not the so call "drugs" , some yes. I've seen family and friend go to prison for this. I've also had many former addicts that have worked for me over the last 40 years. Some the best and hardest worker you will ever see....

you treat addiction by tackling the problem. By tackling the family life. By getting that person in another frame of life. Prison does not do that...it creates more and more addicts

(06-15-2018 01:16 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(06-15-2018 01:07 PM)banker Wrote:  What about this?

https://futurism.com/west-virginia-town-3000-received-21-million-opioid-pills-10-years/


"An ongoing investigation by the House Energy and Commerce Committee has found that drug companies are dumping staggering amounts of highly addictive and dangerous opioid pills into small towns in West Virginia. Over the course of ten years (2006 – 2016) nearly 21 million pills of hydrocodone and oxycodone were sent to just two pharmacies in Williamson, West Virginia, a tiny town with a population of only 3,191, according to the latest census data."


Can't tell me that the drug companies and the pharmacies aren't to blame here.

I think it's a slippery slope. The pharmacies are simply supplying a demand created by legal prescriptions. Do we really want to live in a world where pharmaceutical companies limit supplies of certain drugs based on public perception?

The doctor's writing these ridiculous prescriptions need to be held accountable. In the documentary I mentioned above these pill mill docs in florida were writing prescriptions for 300 80mg oxys. That is just absolutely insane.