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P5 realignment to end all realignment - ken d - 07-14-2018 01:28 PM
The World Cup is over, Wimbledon is over, pro drafts are behind us and it's a long way to September. What else is there to talk about?
While there will always be opponents to any realignment scenario, this one doesn't take too much compromise to "git 'er done".
My suggestion is that we keep all current P5 conferences, and bring each of them from their current number to 15 members each, with three geographically rational divisions of five schools and four team conference championship tournaments.
These are my conferences (new members in bold type):
SEC East: Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, Kentucky and East Carolina
SEC Central: Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi St, Ole Miss and Tennessee
SEC West: LSU, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Missouri, and Vanderbilt
ACC North: Notre Dame, Louisville, Pitt, Boston College and Syracuse
ACC Central: Miami, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, Duke and Virginia
ACC South: Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, NC State and Wake Forest
PAC Northwest: Oregon, Washington, Boise St, Washington St and Oregon St
PAC California: Stanford, Southern Cal, UCLA, San Diego St and California
PAC Mountain: Utah, Arizona St, BYU, Arizona and Colorado
Big 12 East: West Virginia, Temple, USF, UCF and Cincinnati
Big 12 Central: TCU, Baylor, Memphis, Texas and Houston
Big 12 Prairie: Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Kansas St, Texas Tech and Kansas
B1G East: Penn State, Michigan St, Indiana, Maryland and Rutgers
B1G Central: Ohio State, Michigan, Northwestern, Purdue and Illinois
B1G West: Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, and Iowa State
These conferences are listed in order of their four year average Sagarin strength ratings (strongest first), and teams are listed within their divisions in the same order.
The five remaining teams from the AAC join with the four remaining independents to form a football only conference as part of the G5.
How do you get Notre Dame to agree to give up its football independence? Since the 75 schools listed above consist of the entire universe of teams that could remotely have a chance to qualify for the CFP, simply don't allow any independents to be part of that tournament (whether it stays at 4 or expands to 8).
To accommodate the interests of ND and several other schools to have better OOC schedules without giving up their seventh home game, conference schedules are uniformly set up as follows.
Every school plays a full round robin within its division. Every school can have a designated annual rivalry opponent from outside its division. Every school must play at least one conference game (in addition to a designated rivalry) against each of the other divisions in its conference, must play at least 7 conference games a year, and must play every school in its conference at least once every five years.
Conferences may encourage some of its members to play more than seven games in order to meet its commitments to its media partners and may designate some of these games as OOC so everyone plays the same number of games that count toward division championships.
But Notre Dame would only be required to play the minimum, allowing them to continue to schedule Stanford, USC and Navy every year with Miami as a designated rivalry opponent. Likewise, Clemson could have Virginia Tech as a designated annual OOD game and schedule South Carolina, Auburn and Georgia OOC every year (if they are willing) and still have room for two buy games.
I was unable to find a single rivalry game either in-conference or OOC that could not be accommodated easily by this arrangement. No school would be demoted or asked to move to a conference with a lesser payout than they have now. It would be left to the conferences and invitees to decide how much to share with the 10 current G5 schools that move up.
There would no reason anyone would have to wait for GoR's to expire before implementing this. However, the CFP would likely have to wait for its contract to expire before limiting participation by G5 members in the NY6 bowls and CFP.
The only fly I see in the ointment would be the PAC's reluctance to give up its academic and cultural snobbery. Otherwise, I think this could work.
RE: P5 realignment to end all realignment - IWokeUpLikeThis - 07-14-2018 01:56 PM
I’d like to see division-less P7/P75 realignment to end all realignment - based on history, geography and a cap of 12 teams.
Playoff of 7 conference champions + highest ranked non-P7 champ. CCG’s only reserved for 12 team leagues, or 3-way tie in 8-10 team leagues not broken by H2H.
Mandated OOC games to protect historic/in-state/border rivalries or should-be rivalries. Protected in-conference games for 12 team leagues.
ACC - 12 teams, 9 games
Maryland
Virginia
Virginia Tech
East Carolina
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Duke
Wake Forest
Clemson
South Carolina
Central Florida
South Florida
BIG EAST - 10 teams, 9 games
Boston College
Connecticut
Syracuse
Rutgers
Pittsburgh
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
Vanderbilt
Memphis
BIG EIGHT - 8 teams, 7 games
Colorado
Nebraska
Iowa State
Missouri
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
BIG TEN - 12 teams, 9 games
Penn State
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Purdue
Notre Dame
Northwestern
Indiana
Illinois
Iowa
Minnesota
Wisconsin
PAC 12 - 12 teams, 9 games
Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
California
Southern California
UCLA
Arizona
Arizona State
Utah
Brigham Young
SEC - 12 teams, 9 games
Miami
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Auburn
Alabama
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Louisiana State
Tennessee
Kentucky
SWC - 9 teams, 8 games
Arkansas
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Texas Christian
Southern Methodist
Baylor
Houston
Rice
RE: P5 realignment to end all realignment - Sellular1 - 07-14-2018 02:04 PM
I think both plans are pure genius!
RE: P5 realignment to end all realignment - ken d - 07-14-2018 02:04 PM
(07-14-2018 01:56 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: I’d like to see division-less P7/P75 realignment to end all realignment - based on history, geography and a cap of 12 teams.
Playoff of 7 conference champions + highest ranked non-P7 champ. CCG’s only reserved for 12 team leagues, or 3-way tie in 8-10 team leagues not broken by H2H.
Mandated OOC games to protect historic/in-state/border rivalries or should-be rivalries. Protected in-conference games for 12 team leagues.
ACC - 12 teams, 9 games
Maryland
Virginia
Virginia Tech
East Carolina
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Duke
Wake Forest
Clemson
South Carolina
Central Florida
South Florida
BIG EAST - 10 teams, 9 games
Boston College
Connecticut
Syracuse
Rutgers
Pittsburgh
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
Vanderbilt
Memphis
BIG EIGHT - 8 teams, 7 games
Colorado
Nebraska
Iowa State
Missouri
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
BIG TEN - 12 teams, 9 games
Penn State
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Purdue
Notre Dame
Northwestern
Indiana
Illinois
Iowa
Minnesota
Wisconsin
PAC 12 - 12 teams, 9 games
Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
California
Southern California
UCLA
Arizona
Arizona State
Utah
Brigham Young
SEC - 12 teams, 9 games
Miami
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Auburn
Alabama
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Louisiana State
Tennessee
Kentucky
SWC - 9 teams, 8 games
Arkansas
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Texas Christian
Southern Methodist
Baylor
Houston
Rice
Ask about this next year. Or better yet, let's wait until the 20th century ends.
P5 realignment to end all realignment - Jjoey52 - 07-14-2018 02:12 PM
(07-14-2018 01:56 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: I’d like to see division-less P7/P75 realignment to end all realignment - based on history, geography and a cap of 12 teams.
Playoff of 7 conference champions + highest ranked non-P7 champ. CCG’s only reserved for 12 team leagues, or 3-way tie in 8-10 team leagues not broken by H2H.
Mandated OOC games to protect historic/in-state/border rivalries or should-be rivalries. Protected in-conference games for 12 team leagues.
ACC - 12 teams, 9 games
Maryland
Virginia
Virginia Tech
East Carolina
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Duke
Wake Forest
Clemson
South Carolina
Central Florida
South Florida
BIG EAST - 10 teams, 9 games
Boston College
Connecticut
Syracuse
Rutgers
Pittsburgh
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
Vanderbilt
Memphis
BIG EIGHT - 8 teams, 7 games
Colorado
Nebraska
Iowa State
Missouri
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
BIG TEN - 12 teams, 9 games
Penn State
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Purdue
Notre Dame
Northwestern
Indiana
Illinois
Iowa
Minnesota
Wisconsin
PAC 12 - 12 teams, 9 games
Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
California
Southern California
UCLA
Arizona
Arizona State
Utah
Brigham Young
SEC - 12 teams, 9 games
Miami
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Auburn
Alabama
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Louisiana State
Tennessee
Kentucky
SWC - 9 teams, 8 games
Arkansas
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Texas Christian
Southern Methodist
Baylor
Houston
Rice
This actually looks good, the only fly in the ointment is BYU. PAC will never take them for multiple reasons: Sunday play, Church school, and more.
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RE: P5 realignment to end all realignment - Kaplony - 07-14-2018 02:59 PM
(07-14-2018 01:56 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: ACC - 12 teams, 9 games
Maryland
Virginia
Virginia Tech
East Carolina
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Duke
Wake Forest
Clemson
South Carolina
Central Florida
South Florida
Nope
RE: P5 realignment to end all realignment - 10thMountain - 07-14-2018 05:58 PM
Apparently in this universe TV money not a thing and bus and railroad is the only economical means of transportation. Guess it's still 1940 in this universe.
RE: P5 realignment to end all realignment - GoldenWarrior11 - 07-14-2018 06:14 PM
Reorganized P5, with the caveat that new conferences may only have one school within a state:
ACC
Boston College
Cincinnati
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Louisville
Memphis
Miami
Michigan State
Notre Dame
North Carolina State
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
UCLA
B1G
Duke
Indiana
Maryland
Michigan
Minnesota
Northwestern
Ohio State
Penn State
Rutgers
Stanford
UConn
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Wisconsin
Big 12
Arkansas
Arizona State
Auburn
BYU
Florida State
Iowa State
Kansas
Missouri
Mississippi State
Oklahoma
Oregon State
Texas
USC
Washington State
PAC
Arizona
Boise State
California
Colorado
Illinois
Iowa
Kansas State
Nebraska
New Mexico
Oklahoma State
Oregon
Texas Tech
Utah
Washington
SEC
Alabama
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Missouri
North Carolina
Ole Miss
Purdue
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas A&M
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
P5 realignment to end all realignment - Jjoey52 - 07-14-2018 06:29 PM
(07-14-2018 06:14 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: Reorganized P5, with the caveat that new conferences may only have one school within a state:
ACC
Boston College
Cincinnati
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Louisville
Memphis
Miami
Michigan State
Notre Dame
North Carolina State
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
UCLA
B1G
Duke
Indiana
Maryland
Michigan
Minnesota
Northwestern
Ohio State
Penn State
Rutgers
Stanford
UConn
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Wisconsin
Big 12
Arkansas
Arizona State
Auburn
BYU
Florida State
Iowa State
Kansas
Missouri
Mississippi State
Oklahoma
Oregon State
Texas
USC
Washington State
PAC
Arizona
Boise State
California
Colorado
Illinois
Iowa
Kansas State
Nebraska
New Mexico
Oklahoma State
Oregon
Texas Tech
Utah
Washington
SEC
Alabama
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Missouri
North Carolina
Ole Miss
Purdue
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas A&M
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
You have way too much spare time.
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RE: P5 realignment to end all realignment - IWokeUpLikeThis - 07-14-2018 06:49 PM
(07-14-2018 05:58 PM)10thMountain Wrote: Apparently in this universe TV money not a thing and bus and railroad is the only economical means of transportation. Guess it's still 1940 in this universe.
Honestly, this would be amazing. College FB & BB are best when there’s the perfect mix of historical rivalries, geographic rivalries, and games all over the schedule that fans can caravan to. Roadtripping provides memories that last forever, tv money just provides greenbacks that line the pockets of ******** in suits.
RE: P5 realignment to end all realignment - Kaplony - 07-14-2018 07:55 PM
(07-14-2018 06:49 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:(07-14-2018 05:58 PM)10thMountain Wrote: Apparently in this universe TV money not a thing and bus and railroad is the only economical means of transportation. Guess it's still 1940 in this universe.
Honestly, this would be amazing. College FB & BB are best when there’s the perfect mix of historical rivalries, geographic rivalries, and games all over the schedule that fans can caravan to. Roadtripping provides memories that last forever, tv money just provides greenbacks that line the pockets of ******** in suits.
So why did you put Clemson in a conference with only one rival?
RE: P5 realignment to end all realignment - RutgersGuy - 07-14-2018 08:40 PM
My idea for full conference realignment. Each conference has 20 teams, four divisions or five. You play your division + two teams from each other division H & A. . So yes, in my scenario every conference plays 10 conference games and a two round CCP (Conference Championship Playoff). The P4 are not allowed to play a FCS opponent and it will not count toward your bowl eligibility if you do.
There will be a P4 and a G4. The payoff is 8 teams with the 4 P4 champs hosting the top G4 champ and 3 wild cards for the first round of the National Championship Playoff. The semi's and championship games will be at neutral sites and tried to keep it geographic for the two highest seeds left.
B1G:
East- PSU, Rutgers, Maryland, UConn, Virginia
West- Texas, OU, KU, Nebraska, Iowa
South- Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Notre Dame, Ohio State
North- Minny, Wisc, NW, Michigan, MSU
SEC:
East- UF, FSU, UGA, USC, UNC
West- A&M, TCU, Arkansas, OSU, Mizzou
South- Bama, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss, LSU
North- WVU, Tennessee, Vandy, UK, VT
Pac-20:
East- Colorado, KSU, ISU, Utah, BYU
West- Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Hawaii
South- ASU, UA, T Tech, Houston, UNLV
North- Oregon, OSU, Washington, WSU, Boise St.
ACC:
East- NC St, Duke, WF, ECU, Navy
West- Louisville, Cincy, Memphis, Baylor, SMU
South- Miami, GT, Clemson, UCF, USF
North- BC, Pitt, Cuse, Temple, Army
AAC:
East- James Madison, ODU, Richmond, Charolette, App State
West- Tulsa, UTSA, North Texas, Rice, Texas State
South- Tulane, USM, UAB, FIU, FAU
North- Marshall, WKU, Middle Tenn, Missouri St, Chattanooga
MWC:
East- Air Force, Wyoming, Utah State, Weber St, Colorado St
West- San Diego St, Fresno, San Jose, Cal Poly, San Diego
South- New Mexico, New Mexico St, UTEP, Northern Arizona, Nevada
North- Idaho, Eastern Washington, Montana, Portland, Montana St
CUSA:
East- Wofford, William & Mary, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Eastern Kentucky
West- Troy, So. Alabama, Jacksonville St, Louisiana Monroe, Louisiana Lafayette
South- Georgia St, Georgia Southern, Citadel, Western Carolina, Charleston Southern
North- Arkansas State, Central Arkansas, La Tech, Sam Houston, Stephen F Austin
MAC:
East- Buffalo, UMass, Delaware, New Hampshire, Maine
West- South Dakota State, North Dakota State, Northern Iowa, N. Illinois, Ball State
South- Youngstown, Kent, Miami, Ohio, Akron
North- CMU, WMU, EMU, Toledo, Bowling Green
RE: P5 realignment to end all realignment - IWokeUpLikeThis - 07-14-2018 10:02 PM
(07-14-2018 07:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:(07-14-2018 06:49 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:(07-14-2018 05:58 PM)10thMountain Wrote: Apparently in this universe TV money not a thing and bus and railroad is the only economical means of transportation. Guess it's still 1940 in this universe.
Honestly, this would be amazing. College FB & BB are best when there’s the perfect mix of historical rivalries, geographic rivalries, and games all over the schedule that fans can caravan to. Roadtripping provides memories that last forever, tv money just provides greenbacks that line the pockets of ******** in suits.
So why did you put Clemson in a conference with only one rival?
I love how a fanfic has you so up in arms that you keep replying, but here goes...
It’s sensible to put the MD/VA/NC/SC schools together. They traditionally were together and that’s a recognized cohesive region. It already accounts for Clemson’s top 3, 6 of top 8, 8 of top 11 most frequent opponents. I also mentioned OOC rivalries would be mandated, so throw in Georgia, Auburn, & GT/FSU and there’s Clemson’s top 11 or 11/12 most frequent opponents.
RE: P5 realignment to end all realignment - JRsec - 07-14-2018 10:34 PM
B1G:
Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Penn State, Virginia
Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Purdue, Rutgers
Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Wisconsin
California, Cal Los Angeles, Oregon, Southern Cal, Stanford, Washington
SEC:
Kentucky, N.C. State, Virginia Tech, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, West Virginia
Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina
Alabama, Auburn, Louisiana State, Miami, Mississippi, Mississippi State
Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M
PAC (Pan American Conference)
Boston College, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Syracuse
Central Florida, East Carolina, Memphis, South Florida, Tulane, Wake Forest
Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, T.C.U., Texas Tech
Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Oregon State, Utah, Washington State
RE: P5 realignment to end all realignment - Kaplony - 07-14-2018 11:59 PM
(07-14-2018 10:02 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:(07-14-2018 07:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:(07-14-2018 06:49 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:(07-14-2018 05:58 PM)10thMountain Wrote: Apparently in this universe TV money not a thing and bus and railroad is the only economical means of transportation. Guess it's still 1940 in this universe.
Honestly, this would be amazing. College FB & BB are best when there’s the perfect mix of historical rivalries, geographic rivalries, and games all over the schedule that fans can caravan to. Roadtripping provides memories that last forever, tv money just provides greenbacks that line the pockets of ******** in suits.
So why did you put Clemson in a conference with only one rival?
I love how a fanfic has you so up in arms that you keep replying, but here goes...
It’s sensible to put the MD/VA/NC/SC schools together. They traditionally were together and that’s a recognized cohesive region. It already accounts for Clemson’s top 3, 6 of top 8, 8 of top 11 most frequent opponents. I also mentioned OOC rivalries would be mandated, so throw in Georgia, Auburn, & GT/FSU and there’s Clemson’s top 11 or 11/12 most frequent opponents.
What history or even shared interest does Clemson have with ECU, UCF, or USF?
We might have played the ACC schools a bunch but we aren't rivals. The only original ACC school a rival tag might apply would be Maryland. The rest are our *****. You are confusing a bunch of games scheduled for convenience with a rivalry. Look at the records.
If all we cared about was winning the conference we'd jump on your alignment with both feet. We don't. Your alignment sucks. We don't see UNC, NC State, & UVA as peers. We see Auburn, UGA, and Florida as peers.
RE: P5 realignment to end all realignment - IWokeUpLikeThis - 07-15-2018 12:18 AM
It’s a fanfic thread. No one cares to consider “OMG! I hope blowhard from Team X isn’t pissed!”
It was just taking the 75 programs I saw best fit for top level status and dividing it into 7 max-12 leagues that was logical geographically and historically.
If you have such an issue with an internet rando putting Clemson in the same league they’ve been in since 1953 and not with UGA/UF/Auburn, then take it up with your administration. They determined that history.
Or make your own fanfic.
P5 realignment to end all realignment - Jjoey52 - 07-15-2018 12:19 AM
(07-14-2018 08:40 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote: My idea for full conference realignment. Each conference has 20 teams, four divisions or five. You play your division + two teams from each other division H & A. . So yes, in my scenario every conference plays 10 conference games and a two round CCP (Conference Championship Playoff). The P4 are not allowed to play a FCS opponent and it will not count toward your bowl eligibility if you do.
There will be a P4 and a G4. The payoff is 8 teams with the 4 P4 champs hosting the top G4 champ and 3 wild cards for the first round of the National Championship Playoff. The semi's and championship games will be at neutral sites and tried to keep it geographic for the two highest seeds left.
B1G:
East- PSU, Rutgers, Maryland, UConn, Virginia
West- Texas, OU, KU, Nebraska, Iowa
South- Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Notre Dame, Ohio State
North- Minny, Wisc, NW, Michigan, MSU
SEC:
East- UF, FSU, UGA, USC, UNC
West- A&M, TCU, Arkansas, OSU, Mizzou
South- Bama, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss, LSU
North- WVU, Tennessee, Vandy, UK, VT
Pac-20:
East- Colorado, KSU, ISU, Utah, BYU
West- Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Hawaii
South- ASU, UA, T Tech, Houston, UNLV
North- Oregon, OSU, Washington, WSU, Boise St.
ACC:
East- NC St, Duke, WF, ECU, Navy
West- Louisville, Cincy, Memphis, Baylor, SMU
South- Miami, GT, Clemson, UCF, USF
North- BC, Pitt, Cuse, Temple, Army
AAC:
East- James Madison, ODU, Richmond, Charolette, App State
West- Tulsa, UTSA, North Texas, Rice, Texas State
South- Tulane, USM, UAB, FIU, FAU
North- Marshall, WKU, Middle Tenn, Missouri St, Chattanooga
MWC:
East- Air Force, Wyoming, Utah State, Weber St, Colorado St
West- San Diego St, Fresno, San Jose, Cal Poly, San Diego
South- New Mexico, New Mexico St, UTEP, Northern Arizona, Nevada
North- Idaho, Eastern Washington, Montana, Portland, Montana St
CUSA:
East- Wofford, William & Mary, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Eastern Kentucky
West- Troy, So. Alabama, Jacksonville St, Louisiana Monroe, Louisiana Lafayette
South- Georgia St, Georgia Southern, Citadel, Western Carolina, Charleston Southern
North- Arkansas State, Central Arkansas, La Tech, Sam Houston, Stephen F Austin
MAC:
East- Buffalo, UMass, Delaware, New Hampshire, Maine
West- South Dakota State, North Dakota State, Northern Iowa, N. Illinois, Ball State
South- Youngstown, Kent, Miami, Ohio, Akron
North- CMU, WMU, EMU, Toledo, Bowling Green
This and the others all look pretty, but, none of this will ever happen, but fun to speculate.
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RE: P5 realignment to end all realignment - Kaplony - 07-15-2018 12:48 AM
(07-15-2018 12:18 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: It’s a fanfic thread. No one cares to consider “OMG! I hope blowhard from Team X isn’t pissed!”
It was just taking the 75 programs I saw best fit for top level status and dividing it into 7 max-12 leagues that was logical geographically and historically.
If you have such an issue with an internet rando putting Clemson in the same league they’ve been in since 1953 and not with UGA/UF/Auburn, then take it up with your administration. They determined that history.
Or make your own fanfic.
Or maybe ignorant people shouldn't make posts about things they have no idea about and when confronted on their ignorance shouldn't try to dig in.
But that's just me,
RE: P5 realignment to end all realignment - IWokeUpLikeThis - 07-15-2018 12:55 AM
Oh, the horror of an internet rando putting Clemson in the same league they’ve been in since 1953 in a stupid fanfic with 8 of their 11 most frequent opponents and scheduling the spare 3 OOC! The horror!
RE: P5 realignment to end all realignment - Kaplony - 07-15-2018 01:08 AM
It's OK dude...everyone sees you are butthurt that someone dared correct you.