(02-03-2018 09:00 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Charlotte shoots 53% from the floor. First team in league play to shoot better than 50% (make that 46%) against MT. Nearly pulled off the upset. One possession game and Charlotte misses a long three to tie it in the final 15 seconds.

Wonder if the slugfest against ODU took something out of our team? Or maybe we didn't come as ready to play because of Charlotte's record. We didn't play with the same level of intensity on defense tonight, but a ton of credit to the way Charlotte played. They were well prepared for this game and shot lights out tonight.

FWIW, based on the foul call discussion we've been having MT with double the fouls called on us in another road game. Until the final few seconds when Charlotte had to foul intentionally only three called on the Niners in the second half and only nine total the first 39 and 1/2 minutes.

To address the foul disparity, we don't play defense, so we don't foul much.

(02-03-2018 05:37 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  We have just been bad, no hustle, no energy and no care.... not sure who stole my team

This L was a long time coming...We have really been off since winning at ODU...CUSA teams know how to play us now, sag down on our bigs, double or sometimes triple team Justin and let us beat you with outside shots...We have never been a good three point shooting team this season and lately we cannot hit anything downtown.....Not sure if our legs are done or what....UTSA was daring us to shoot and a lot of these looks were good looks, just unreal none of our guys can knock down a three right now....It might be all the wear and tear of playing with low numbers and guys playing a ton of minutes has finally caught up to us....I really think we need a reset or we could really tank to end this season...

Give UTSA credit, they played with more energy and wanted it for sure more.....UTSA needs to spend more on basketball...Your gym looks like a high school gym....Your team is really really young, your coach appears to be the real deal, can you keep him playing in what you are playing in with limited support for hoops? YOu guys have owned us in basketball recently....

Watched some of Westerns games versus both UTXX and you guys looked lethargic out there. Its like they didnt even want to be there. Norhing like the team looked earlier in the year. I wander what is going on?

(02-03-2018 09:09 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  UNT has quietly slipped back into 4th place.

Well, it was fun while it lasted.

(02-03-2018 11:05 PM)Surbadger Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 09:09 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  UNT has quietly slipped back into 4th place.

Well, it was fun while it lasted.

after the benford half decade **** fest, i'll gladly take a 5 days in the top 4 in the conference!

(02-03-2018 06:07 PM)Franko Wrote:  The worst part about the loss is it is to a program who has zero interest in basketball. I would rather lose in Norfolk, Birmingham or Murfreesboro to someone who cares. It was going to happen but 10% from deep sealed the deal.

Just take the L and don't put down my school. You lost to a team that now has a winning record in CUSA.

(02-04-2018 01:25 AM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 06:07 PM)Franko Wrote:  The worst part about the loss is it is to a program who has zero interest in basketball. I would rather lose in Norfolk, Birmingham or Murfreesboro to someone who cares. It was going to happen but 10% from deep sealed the deal.

Just take the L and don't put down my school. You lost to a team that now has a winning record in CUSA.

I don't believe he meant to discredit the win. By all means you earned it and it appears you have a nice future with your coach and the freshman. But it is very frustrating even playing schools that have gyms that appear (at least on camera) to look like large high school gyms and that play in front of 1,500 or less nightly, much less get beaten by them. When you pour resources into a program, have a pretty rabid fan base, and strong tradition it is irritating to watch your team play in that environment, especially when they play so poorly.

You have a team that is going to be a tough out in the tourney and has a bright future ahead. That doesn't change the fact that your program doesn't garner much interest locally or beyond. I hope that changes, as your young kids deserve support. They are very good. Congratulations on the W. You deserved it.

(02-04-2018 01:25 AM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 06:07 PM)Franko Wrote:  The worst part about the loss is it is to a program who has zero interest in basketball. I would rather lose in Norfolk, Birmingham or Murfreesboro to someone who cares. It was going to happen but 10% from deep sealed the deal.

Just take the L and don't put down my school. You lost to a team that now has a winning record in CUSA.

Hell we've lost at UTSA when they really were bad. Texas road trips are tough for eastern teams. But with them sweeping Marshall and Western this weekend, granted at home, I've got to believe its not a fluke.

(02-03-2018 10:45 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  Watched some of Westerns games versus both UTXX and you guys looked lethargic out there. Its like they didnt even want to be there. Norhing like the team looked earlier in the year. I wander what is going on?

As we like to say here in Kentucky , our guys are playing like they’re “wore plum out”.

UTSA in the last three has beaten UAB in Birmingham, and MU and WKU in SA. Very strong, obviously a better team than given credit for. I see some of the “bad” losses, are they just inconsistent due to youth?

(02-04-2018 10:17 AM)Herd2believe Wrote:  UTSA in the last three has beaten UAB in Birmingham, and MU and WKU in SA. Very strong, obviously a better team than given credit for. I see some of the “bad” losses, are they just inconsistent due to youth?

Yeah, I must say that UTSA is a team on the rise. Probably too inexperienced to be at the top this year, but they seem to be much improved. That Freshman you guys start is crazy clutch. I can't remember his name.

(02-04-2018 10:17 AM)Herd2believe Wrote:  UTSA in the last three has beaten UAB in Birmingham, and MU and WKU in SA. Very strong, obviously a better team than given credit for. I see some of the “bad” losses, are they just inconsistent due to youth?

I'm reading the WKU guys talking about how poor their shooting is right now. We went through a stretch in the 4 games prior to UAB, Marshall, and WKU where we were shooting it poorly also, as we shot 39%, 37%, 36%, and 34%. We actually didn't shoot very well against WKU either. The Toppers shot 36% overall, but we only shot 39.7%. WKU was just extraordinarily bad from the arc.

I don't attribute our losses to youth though. We lost one of our best players for the year to an injury in the very first game of the season, and he would've helped us a lot in the paint. So I do attribute the 5 games we lost by 4 or less points (Bradley, Tulsa, UNT, FIU, and FAU) to his absence down low. I know you play with whom you have, but I heard the announcers yesterday talking about WKU playing only so-and-so amount of games at full strength this season, and have heard similar things said in a couple other broadcasts about our other opponents, but haven't heard anyone yet say that with Adrian Rodriguez hurting his knee in the first half of the first game, we actually haven't played a single game all year at full strength.

(02-04-2018 10:48 AM)Surbadger Wrote:  

(02-04-2018 10:17 AM)Herd2believe Wrote:  UTSA in the last three has beaten UAB in Birmingham, and MU and WKU in SA. Very strong, obviously a better team than given credit for. I see some of the “bad” losses, are they just inconsistent due to youth?

Yeah, I must say that UTSA is a team on the rise. Probably too inexperienced to be at the top this year, but they seem to be much improved. That Freshman you guys start is crazy clutch. I can't remember his name.

They're clearly punching above their weight class at the moment, that's three wins in a row and with UTEP next on the schedule they have a very good chance at their first four game winning streak since 2011. If they then were to somehow topple the Monarchs, they might be a real threat down the stretch, but with a likely loss to ODU, even going 4-1 down their final five after that would put them at 8-2 heading into Frisco and probably a team none of the top seeds would want to see on their side of the bracket.

Conversely, as I was looking for their last four game winning streak, they had more than a few aberrant three game winning streaks over the years. Lose to UTEP on Saturday and then lose soundly to ODU, maybe they spiral down the stretch.

As odumonarchz1 pointed out earlier, we're all enormously relieved that we get UTSA, and to a slightly lesser extent UTEP, at home this year.

Utsa seems to have a good core of young players. I hope they can keep them together and parlay a good basketball team into a serious discussion for a new arena.

(02-04-2018 01:20 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Utsa seems to have a good core of young players. I hope they can keep them together and parlay a good basketball team into a serious discussion for a new arena.

Yep in today's college basketball world they will lose both freshman to bigger name schools especially with a middle school gym they play in....I am shocked they get any recruits with that gym...

(02-04-2018 11:02 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(02-04-2018 01:20 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Utsa seems to have a good core of young players. I hope they can keep them together and parlay a good basketball team into a serious discussion for a new arena.

Yep in today's college basketball world they will lose both freshman to bigger name schools especially with a middle school gym they play in....I am shocked they get any recruits with that gym...

Let it go, man. Take your L. You guys are better than us 95% of the time; act like it.

(02-05-2018 12:42 AM)forerunner Wrote:  

(02-04-2018 11:02 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(02-04-2018 01:20 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Utsa seems to have a good core of young players. I hope they can keep them together and parlay a good basketball team into a serious discussion for a new arena.

Yep in today's college basketball world they will lose both freshman to bigger name schools especially with a middle school gym they play in....I am shocked they get any recruits with that gym...

Let it go, man. Take your L. You guys are better than us 95% of the time; act like it.

I don't think he meant anything by that. It's basically the same thing most of our fan base has been saying about our arena for at least a couple decades now. Granted, with a better arena, I'm sure the quality of our recruits would step up, and we'd also have more fans willing to go to the games if they had a nicer venue to watch them in. But like I said on RowdyTalk, if we don't have the money to be able to build an arena and keep Henson at the same time, I'd rather we fork out the money to keep Henson right now. Kids with any sense will choose a program for its coach over what kind of gym they'll play in. That's why he's been able to recruit some great young talent the last couple years.

(02-05-2018 01:35 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 12:42 AM)forerunner Wrote:  

(02-04-2018 11:02 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(02-04-2018 01:20 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Utsa seems to have a good core of young players. I hope they can keep them together and parlay a good basketball team into a serious discussion for a new arena.

Yep in today's college basketball world they will lose both freshman to bigger name schools especially with a middle school gym they play in....I am shocked they get any recruits with that gym...

Let it go, man. Take your L. You guys are better than us 95% of the time; act like it.

I don't think he meant anything by that. It's basically the same thing most of our fan base has been saying about our arena for at least a couple decades now. Granted, with a better arena, I'm sure the quality of our recruits would step up, and we'd also have more fans willing to go to the games if they had a nicer venue to watch them in. But like I said on RowdyTalk, if we don't have the money to be able to build an arena and keep Henson at the same time, I'd rather we fork out the money to keep Henson right now. Kids with any sense will choose a program for its coach over what kind of gym they'll play in. That's why he's been able to recruit some great young talent the last couple years.

Finding kids with sense today is the challenge. In this participation trophy age they all want to be the instant star and are only worried about when do they get the next cost of attendance check

(02-05-2018 01:35 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 12:42 AM)forerunner Wrote:  

(02-04-2018 11:02 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(02-04-2018 01:20 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Utsa seems to have a good core of young players. I hope they can keep them together and parlay a good basketball team into a serious discussion for a new arena.

Yep in today's college basketball world they will lose both freshman to bigger name schools especially with a middle school gym they play in....I am shocked they get any recruits with that gym...

Let it go, man. Take your L. You guys are better than us 95% of the time; act like it.

I don't think he meant anything by that. It's basically the same thing most of our fan base has been saying about our arena for at least a couple decades now. Granted, with a better arena, I'm sure the quality of our recruits would step up, and we'd also have more fans willing to go to the games if they had a nicer venue to watch them in. But like I said on RowdyTalk, if we don't have the money to be able to build an arena and keep Henson at the same time, I'd rather we fork out the money to keep Henson right now. Kids with any sense will choose a program for its coach over what kind of gym they'll play in. That's why he's been able to recruit some great young talent the last couple years.

Thank you Volkmar, but I'm quite sure he meant something by it. Their fans have been hurling insults about the Convo (which, yes, is terribly outdated) at a far greater proportion after we handed them a loss. Regardless of whether this individual poster is doing that or not, I don't need you to smooth this one over for us.

I harbor no ill will towards WKU, and in fact a vast majority of the time I am honored to share the conference with them. This is not about that, but rather about how many of their fans won't move on right now.