(09-24-2015 03:27 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 03:05 PM)nole Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 02:49 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 01:19 PM)nole Wrote:  I can't wait until UNC goes to the B1G or the SEC.

It will be a great day.

And it will happen. Only a matter of time.

The folks that run the ACC will be the first to leave. I will laugh when it happens.

So let's be clear. You think that the two conferences that have up to now made the smartest and most profitable moves in realignment are all of a sudden going to raid the ACC to take its least desirable (in your view) properties.

Let's say the B1G takes UNC, Duke, Virginia and Georgia Tech. How does that help what remains of the ACC? How does it help FSU?

IF you have a network and no presence in a state.....then they are valuable.

UNC and UVA are valuable for those conference because they have a network (unlike the ACC) and other schools that deliver great value (unlike the ACC).

Pretty simple.

Honestly, If I am NC State....I look at Texas A&M and see how great a move for NC State to the SEC would be. Somebody will jump eventually. The ACC is just holding on for dear life and little more.

Personally, I think NC State would be wise to seek a home in the SEC for reasons only marginally related to money. So, if State and Va Tech bolt for the SEC following the departure of the other four, I guess in your mind that would be a red letter day for the Noles. I just don't see it that way. And I doubt many other ACC fans would be laughing with you.

There is no chance in Hell, save the absolute collapse of the ACC that NC State would accept a SEC invite.

1. NC State as a Land Grant STEM, without a robust liberal arts program, is not set up to compete against the curriculums in the SEC at Florida, Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, etc. There are not that many places to hide a dumb kid.

2. NC State faculty are notoriously anti-athletics and it goes back to the 1970's and trashed talked by Duke faculty in the 70's and 80's.

3. We would need $35 million more a year to compete and maintain our place which is roughly in the middle in all ACC sports. It would take $50 million more a year to elevate football to the level of real competition - not the South Carolina or Mizzou level, but the LSU/Georgia/Auburn level.

4. Most of NC State's faculty and administration have some sort of B10 tie and NC State is set up and run like a small B10 school, not a large SEC school. That matters. While the fan base is more SECish, the school is more B10ish.

5. UNC-Ch would not allow us to go to the SEC unless they moved to the B10, which they do not want to do and they would not allow us to move to the B10 without them.

6. NC State does not control it's own fate. It has the least self governance and personal control of any school in the P-5. We are slave to the UNC Board of Governors, who are 75% UNC-Ch folks.