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RE: P4 and Houston market
(01-16-2018 08:27 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 07:50 PM)johnintx Wrote:  
(12-10-2017 03:19 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The most similar school in term of enrollment is Wake Forest. In terms of endowment and resources only Stanford, Northwestern, Duke, Notre Dame in FBS have more financial power. They rank even ahead of USC, Vandy, and Miami.

The enrollment argument has some validity. They probably need another 1,000 undergrads to sustain a top level FBS program. Overall they look like a 'tweener. More resources than any G5, but not the size needed for P5.

Rice has the academic pedigree in spades. It's a great school. My children go to one of the top public high schools in the Houston area, and Rice isn't even on the radar for most students there. It's that good.

The reputation of the other large private schools in Texas is "rich". Rice's reputation is "smart". (But, there are plenty of smart people at the other TX private schools, and Rice isn't cheap at all) With its small size, small alumni base, and exclusivity, there's not as much of a connection with the general population.

However, if Rice invested HUGE money into athletics, they could, in a best-case scenario, be a Northwestern. Northwestern markets itself as "Chicago's Big Ten Team". Rice could market itself as "Houston's (insert P5 conference) Team". That is, if they could get a P5 conference to look at them. At this point, after the most recent B12 dog and pony show, P5 conferences are as likely to contract than to expand outside the P5.

As it stands now, U of H is much closer to P5 status than Rice.

Rice was in a major conference for 80 years, until 1995. They have all the resources in the world to be a Northwestern or a Vanderbilt in the Big 12.

They just have to want to do it, and as others in this thread have said, Rice just isn't interested in investing in their athletics.

Yeah but Houston was a 100% commuter college In a power conference for 17 years. That's pretty amazing to think about. Kind of like Louisville in the ACC now. Louisville, the King of the Commuters.
01-16-2018 09:30 PM
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Houston market - exowlswimmer - 12-09-2017, 01:16 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - Nerdlinger - 01-16-2018, 11:09 AM
RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC - C2__ - 12-09-2017, 03:06 PM
RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC - C2__ - 12-10-2017, 01:49 AM
RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC - Wedge - 12-09-2017, 04:33 PM
RE: Houston market - exowlswimmer - 01-28-2018, 07:45 PM
RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC - Wolfman - 12-09-2017, 05:21 PM
RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC - DavidSt - 12-09-2017, 05:38 PM
RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC - C2__ - 12-09-2017, 05:49 PM
RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC - C2__ - 12-09-2017, 11:35 PM
RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC - C2__ - 12-10-2017, 01:46 AM
RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC - AntiG - 12-09-2017, 07:22 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - johnintx - 01-16-2018, 07:50 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - quo vadis - 01-16-2018, 08:27 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - billybobby777 - 01-16-2018 09:30 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - exowlswimmer - 01-17-2018, 04:11 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - BruceMcF - 01-17-2018, 05:24 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - quo vadis - 01-17-2018, 07:38 AM
RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC - esayem - 12-10-2017, 09:29 AM
RE: Rice to P4 - Attackcoog - 12-13-2017, 12:47 AM
RE: Houston market - HoustonCajun - 01-25-2018, 12:05 PM
RE: Houston market - Nerdlinger - 01-25-2018, 01:20 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - loki_the_bubba - 01-16-2018, 07:19 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - loki_the_bubba - 01-16-2018, 07:43 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - Nerdlinger - 01-16-2018, 11:03 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - loki_the_bubba - 01-16-2018, 11:14 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - Nerdlinger - 01-16-2018, 11:26 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - C2__ - 01-16-2018, 12:32 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - Attackcoog - 01-16-2018, 11:40 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - OdinFrigg - 01-16-2018, 09:58 PM
RE: Rice to P4 - esayem - 12-14-2017, 11:01 AM
RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC - DavidSt - 12-10-2017, 04:58 PM
RE: Rice to P4 - exowlswimmer - 12-12-2017, 10:21 PM
RE: Rice to P4 - C2__ - 12-13-2017, 12:00 AM
Rice to P4 - 1845 Bear - 12-14-2017, 10:47 AM
RE: Rice to P4 - C2__ - 12-14-2017, 01:38 PM
RE: Rice to P4 - Stugray2 - 12-14-2017, 01:51 PM
RE: Rice to P4 - loki_the_bubba - 12-14-2017, 02:58 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - exowlswimmer - 01-16-2018, 02:24 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - JHS55 - 01-16-2018, 04:35 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - Nerdlinger - 01-16-2018, 09:27 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - Attackcoog - 01-16-2018, 11:38 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - C2__ - 01-16-2018, 01:05 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - GO Coogs GO!!! - 01-16-2018, 12:16 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - JHS55 - 01-17-2018, 04:50 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - exowlswimmer - 01-17-2018, 06:02 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - GO Coogs GO!!! - 01-17-2018, 05:48 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - Nerdlinger - 01-17-2018, 06:10 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - C2__ - 01-17-2018, 06:46 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - Mav - 01-17-2018, 07:43 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - quo vadis - 01-17-2018, 08:09 AM
RE: P4 and Houston market - C2__ - 01-17-2018, 09:06 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - exowlswimmer - 01-17-2018, 11:08 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - GO Coogs GO!!! - 01-18-2018, 06:00 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - exowlswimmer - 01-19-2018, 06:11 AM
RE: Houston market - GO Coogs GO!!! - 01-19-2018, 02:49 PM
RE: Houston market - bullet - 01-25-2018, 06:45 PM
RE: Houston market - GO Coogs GO!!! - 01-26-2018, 10:50 AM
RE: Houston market - bullet - 01-26-2018, 11:12 AM
RE: Houston market - GO Coogs GO!!! - 01-26-2018, 12:46 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - quo vadis - 01-18-2018, 07:46 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - PK_UToledo - 01-18-2018, 07:36 PM
RE: Houston market - Wedge - 01-20-2018, 01:02 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - C2__ - 01-18-2018, 08:42 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - Nerdlinger - 01-18-2018, 10:11 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - sctvman - 01-18-2018, 10:54 PM
RE: P4 and Houston market - C2__ - 01-18-2018, 11:03 PM
RE: Houston market - JHS55 - 01-19-2018, 11:08 AM
RE: Houston market - C2__ - 01-25-2018, 12:20 PM
RE: Houston market - C2__ - 01-25-2018, 04:24 PM
RE: Houston market - HoustonCajun - 01-25-2018, 05:24 PM
RE: Houston market - allerretour - 01-26-2018, 10:25 AM
RE: Houston market - C2__ - 01-25-2018, 05:54 PM
RE: Houston market - HoustonCajun - 01-26-2018, 09:43 AM
RE: Houston market - C2__ - 01-26-2018, 03:02 PM
RE: Houston market - exowlswimmer - 01-26-2018, 07:06 PM
RE: Houston market - GO Coogs GO!!! - 01-26-2018, 01:08 PM
RE: Houston market - bullet - 01-28-2018, 10:13 AM
RE: Houston market - JHS55 - 01-26-2018, 01:20 PM
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