(02-25-2017 01:29 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-25-2017 01:16 PM)p23570 Wrote:  

(02-25-2017 01:09 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-25-2017 12:51 PM)p23570 Wrote:  

(02-25-2017 12:45 PM)panama Wrote:  Their annual operation budget is $3.2B. They can subsiduze $32M and it would be 1% of their budget. Why are so concerned with UMass anyway?

LOL. As usual you are clueless. Every time a broke AD is brought up the reaction is talk academics, endowment, or now operating budget for the school. None of which have anything to do with the AD budget or ability to operate a FBS football program. It's just a sorry arse attempt to defelct the reality of the situation.

Lets talk real numbers shall we, Facts.

Wyoming has roughly the same AD budget but only requires half the subsidy. That means wyoming is able to raise more money as an AD through things like ticket sales and donations. The last nuber is subsidy. That is where the UMAss AD gets 80%of its' income.

71 Massachusetts A-10 $36,512,437 $36,897,375 $28,681,769 78.55
72 Wyoming Mt. West $35,260,511 $33,364,169 $15,395,379 43.66

Massachusetts
CONFERENCE: A-10

YEAR TICKET SALES CONTRIBUTIONS RIGHTS / LICENSING STUDENT FEES SCHOOL FUNDS OTHER TOTAL REVENUES
2015 $1,643,397 $1,371,144 $2,566,830 $8,151,071 $20,530,698 $2,249,297 $36,512,437
2014 $1,695,134 $1,579,380 $1,711,809 $8,081,072 $18,344,057 $2,464,466 $33,875,918
2013 $1,413,936 $841,873 $1,729,462 $8,004,252 $16,350,175 $1,720,937 $30,060,635
2012 $1,160,807 $1,174,767 $1,787,962 $7,986,581 $16,389,092 $1,263,008 $29,762,217
2011 $1,290,143 $656,374 $2,071,154 $7,858,242 $14,185,734 $1,186,630 $27,248,277
2010 $1,246,446 $615,212 $2,028,721 $7,655,562 $12,519,657 $1,092,374 $25,157,972
2009 $1,543,216 $728,547 $1,958,969 $7,523,706 $12,458,449 $1,035,586 $25,248,473
2008 $1,477,290 $917,399 $2,067,241 $7,247,226 $12,407,669 $1,103,813 $25,220,638
2007 $1,400,854 $1,030,645 $2,051,253 $7,110,508 $8,798,995 $761,606 $21,153,861
2006 $1,084,246 $719,429 $1,973,277 $6,910,727 $8,448,848 $745,163 $19,881,690
2005 $1,032,637 $705,500 $1,625,442 $6,844,792 $8,391,074 $745,146 $19,344,591

Who cares. It's a credit one place and a debit elsewhere on your university operating budget of which they have plenty of revenue. If not they wouldn't be doing it. So what is your suggestion? They should drop to FCS? Join the MAC? Drop football? On your expert say so? Sit down Mr -21. Go back to the easy life of P5 football rooting and leave the real work to adults.

That's the best you can do when faced with a decade of AD budgets which show an increasing dependence on taxpayers to operate the AD? LOL, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

This is a public forum. You don't see to understand that concept. NOr do you understand that the AC cant' just keep taking from other places to increase the budget at donations and ticket sales are stagnant.

I say wait 2 years for the MAC and if that doesn't happen drop to FCS which is where the AD belongs due to support.

I am not more of an expert than you are and no less of an adult. Those are just lame attempts by you to insult me. Great job, lol.

I have no problem with your opinion, you simply can't handle mine which is backed up with facts. That's why you are so upset and started this fight becasue you know I'm right and it upsets you Anyone can look at your posts and see what you were trying to do today. Try to stay on topic and control your emotions.

Your opinion is based on being a P5 fan. You're engorged and fat with TV money and not remembering that your own program was built the same way before TV showed up with bags of money.
Where are taxpayers paying for UMass football? Student Fees? Or a check from the general fund? As I said, their systems annual budget is $3.2B. The subsidy you refer to is minuscule. And if it were an issue someone in the Mass state house would be screaming. The benefits that UMass receives by staying FBS far outweigh any perceived down side. College athletics is part of the marketing of the university. And the ROI is much higher than any advertising campaign possible from the academic side.

This has nothing to do with p-5, that's just your insecurity talking. Most games I attend are d-2. HAs zero to do with OU, that is just some weird fantasy you came up with becasue of your insecurities. So predictable.

All schools have large budgets, but that has zero bearing on AD budgets. Neither do endowments.

I personally see little to no benefits to playing FBS for UMAss. It hasn't increased ticket sales or donations. Where do you see the benefit looking at those budget numbers? Are enrollment/application numbers up since the change?