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RE: Proposal to let athletes transfer instantly after a coaching change picks up steam
(02-11-2018 04:13 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 03:55 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 11:12 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 10:46 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Many of these answers assume players are exactly like pro sport free agents who will leap at the chance to pursue the next rung up the ladder.

There is more that goes into the equation.

If a student-athlete is engaged in campus activities, has a girlfriend, has developed a mentor relationship with a professor in their degree program, is in a fraternity, the school is close for their family to attend games, all these things play against transferring. Players develop friendships on their team.

Stampedes out just aren't likely.
Our recruiting is just now recovering from the one-and-dones. It was tough. How do you think it would have been different if we lost players to this?

We were left with no staff for bowl games. How would this affect bowls? And why would I, your star player, want to play in the GoDaddy Bowl and risk injury if I was planning to transfer to a P5 afterwards?





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How many players were eligible for free transfer from Ole Miss and how many took it?

Players aren't chattel and when there is a fundamental change in the circumstances that lead them to sign they should be free to go.

Football is a teamwork sport. Penalizing a player into staying is a real team builder.

(02-11-2018 03:55 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 11:12 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 10:46 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Many of these answers assume players are exactly like pro sport free agents who will leap at the chance to pursue the next rung up the ladder.

There is more that goes into the equation.

If a student-athlete is engaged in campus activities, has a girlfriend, has developed a mentor relationship with a professor in their degree program, is in a fraternity, the school is close for their family to attend games, all these things play against transferring. Players develop friendships on their team.

Stampedes out just aren't likely.
Our recruiting is just now recovering from the one-and-dones. It was tough. How do you think it would have been different if we lost players to this?

We were left with no staff for bowl games. How would this affect bowls? And why would I, your star player, want to play in the GoDaddy Bowl and risk injury if I was planning to transfer to a P5 afterwards?





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How many players were eligible for free transfer from Ole Miss and how many took it?

Players aren't chattel and when there is a fundamental change in the circumstances that lead them to sign they should be free to go.

Football is a teamwork sport. Penalizing a player into staying is a real team builder.

I'd feel better if you weren't comparing our situation with a P5 SEC West team. Not sure P5 SEC West and G5 SBC are really that comparable in that situation.

You skipped out on my bowl question.

The "players aren't chattel" is cliche and is an appeal to emotion. It answers nothing about the impacts on the sport. It jusy avoids those questions. You can just as easily say "no player should be FORCED to attend classes" I mean they are not slaves! Forcing them to make grades! Forcing them to be in a hotel room by 8! They are not chattel!



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Players are already skipping bowls to not hurt their draft chances.

There is nothing cliche about players aren't chattel. Listen to sports talk in Arkansas any time some local high school product goes to Notre Dame or Auburn. The fandom believes the mere fact of the soil where the kid goes to high school makes them the property of UA.

Players don't have to attend classes and they don't have to be players.

But when there is a fundamental change in the circumstances that brought them to a school they should be able to depart and I say that knowing that a smart coach who is hired to rebuild is going to screw over some existing players to clear the roster and recruit new players. It's a grown up business.
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