(03-06-2018 09:44 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 08:53 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 08:40 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 07:37 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 11:47 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  True. But at least there is a viable path to the playoff. Its not ideal, but I can live with treating the entire G5 as a single AQ conference. When you figure all the other issues involved in expanding the FBS playoff (bowls, length of season, venues, spring studies for students, etc)--8-teams starts to look like the best all around compromise.

For money purposes and NY6 participation, the G5 is already treated like one giant P conference. The money share that the G5 gets is about the same as what a single P5 gets, and just as each P5 is guaranteed that its champ plays in an NY6, so too the top G5 team also plays in the NY6.

What you want is something not even the P5 have, a guaranteed slot in the playoffs. Just ask the PAC and B1G this year if P5 champs are guaranteed that.

Also, seems like your stance is self-serving, because probably 50% of the time or more, it is the AAC champ that will be the top G5 team, so that playoff spot becomes a quasi-AAC playoff slot. No wonder you can live with it and fans of other G5 conferences disagree about it.

My plan would give the P5 autobids---so your point--as usual--is completely off base. The fans of other G5's would be fine with a guaranteed G5 slot. Ask them yourself.


Frankly, there is nothing more self serving than the existing elitist ice skating judge system you seem so enamored with. The G5 isn't currently treated like a single big conference---its treated like a single big underclass with access effectively barred. It reminds me a little of the pre-1960's treatment of African Americans in sports. There are a lot of similarities. Basically, its about exclusion based entirely on a set of assumptions that are completely unproven.

The comparison to African-Americans strikes me as arguably offensive. Blacks were banned from many sports on truly unproven assumptions about their skills, work ethic, etc. that were based in raw racism. Those assumptions were not only unproven, they were also untrue.

In contrast, the belief that, e.g., the SEC is better than the Sun Belt isn't unproven and it isn't untrue. The results of football games show that the SEC is clearly better. It is neither an unproven assumption nor is it untrue. It's true.

As for what G5 fans would be fine with, I've already seen at least on of the ARK-ST contingent say they will only be fine with a guaranteed bid for all conference champs. He thinks that because of course the Sun Belt champ will never get a playoff bid under your system.

Finally, my point about the P5 wasn't off base. Your proposal seems to be based on the assumption that in the *current* system the P5 have access to the playoffs in a way the G5 do not, that their champs have an auto-bid. So it beared noting that they don't.

Formally, everyone has the same chance to get into the playoffs. You just have to produce results on the field.

You just keep putting them on a tee for me.

UCF. 14-0

You cant "produce results on the field" better than that.

To date--every participant in the CFP has been a P5---most have had at least one loss. No G5 has every even broken the top 10 in the CFP, despite several having been undefeated. Three out of 4 times the lower ranked G5 has defeated the top 10 ranked team in playoff.

A G5 has zero chance to get into the CFP under a system that packs the committee with virtually all P5 connected ice skating judges. Not one reputable sports writer believes you are correct in claiming the G5 has any real access to the playoff.

You keep falling right into the traps. You should know by now that i am going to remind you that a record means nothing unless we know who it was achieved against. Remember my Houston vs Prairie View and Houston vs Alabama example?

To make a medium story short: a 11-1 record vs a tough schedule is a better result on the field than 12-0 vs a weak one.

That's why everyone, humans and computers, had UCF well out of the playoffs.