(03-02-2018 06:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-02-2018 11:22 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-02-2018 09:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-02-2018 08:38 AM)Huskies12 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 04:16 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I agree. FWIW, I don't care if ECU claims to be national champs for last year, it has just as much validity as UCF's claim, and neither impacts my day in any way.

It's just silly, though, like say the San Francisco 49ers claiming to be the "NFL Champs" even though Philly won the Super Bowl, because the Niners think they should have made the playoffs. It's just nonsense.

If San Francisco wants to make the playoffs all it has to do is win their games. UCF won all their games and wasn't allowed to compete for a National Championship. So it's not a good comparison.

When the 49ers go undefeated and don't make the playoffs let me know.

It's an excellent comparison. The NFL could have a 32-team playoff and the 49ers therefore could have been in it, just like the CFP could be a 32-team playoff and UCF would have been in it.

Both missed the playoffs by the rules that govern who does and doesn't get in.

But even if UCF had a claim to be in the playoffs, it's still ridiculous to try and claim that because you were kept out of the playoffs and should have been in, that means you can claim equality ("a national title") with whoever did make the playoffs and won them.

At that point, you're giving yourself credit for something you didn't actually do - win the playoffs.

No, they are just saying that its still an MNC. So they have a right to claim it. Nobody else went unbeaten. I think its silly, but your argument against it is wrong. The rules are not inclusive. They are stacked in favor of the P5. The committee is stacked in favor of the Big 10, SEC and Pac 12 (not that it has helped the P12 much).

They have no more right to claim a title than does Arkansas State or USF or Penn State. UCF agreed to the CFP system, and they didn't win the CFP playoff. Ohio State didn't either.

And unbeaten means zero, because of SOS, and because schools can actually pick several teams to be on their schedule, which isn't true in pro leagues.

It's really bizarro that anyone thinks that because they felt they should have been in the playoff but was excluded, that this means they can act as if they did beat two playoff teams to win the playoffs. Amazing, really.

Think about it: What if the 49ers would have made the playoffs if they won their last game, but they missed out because they lost their last game. But, they lost because the NFL agrees that a bad call was made and they should have won.

Does that mean that because the 49ers were screwed out of making the playoffs that they can claim they are champions, as if they actually won two playoff games and the Super Bowl even though they didn't actually do so?

Beyond dumb, eh?

That may very well be the most asinine argument you've ever made. UCF didnt LOSE thier last game. UCF didnt lose ANY games. Becasue the NFL utilizes actual on the field results (as opposed to ice skating judges), no team that finishes the season undefeated will ever be anything other than the champion of the NFL for that year. THe NFL is a terrible analogy. Try ice skating---its closer to what the CFP really is.