Jeez, you guys are really unbelievable! Get off the FLA kick. It has nothing to do with my post about 4 loss teams in BCS bowls.

Also, what is your deal with schedule strength? In the last BCS poll, UGA was ranked #10 in the nation in schedule strength. That was 5th highest among BCS ranked teams. Do some research before you write these ridiculous posts!

While again you 4 loss losers are writing posts about things that have nothing to do with the topic, lets look at some of the teams that UGA plays next year:

Clemson
LSU
Alabama
Florida
Auburn
Tennessee
Kentucky
Ga. Tech
Ole Miss

This is a sampling of what will surely be one of the top ranked toughest schedules in the nation next year, just like this year.

Last item...To MsNole, again you do not have the facts on what you post. Let's look at UGAs defensive stats darling.

Rush defense ranks 25th in the nation and 6th among BCS ranked teams
Scoring defense ranks 9th in the nation and 5th among BCS ranked teams
Total defense ranks 25th in the nation and 7th among BCS ranked teams

FSU in those same cateogories?

Rush defense ranks 35th in the nation
Scoring defense ranks 32nd in the nation
Total defense ranks 63rd in the nation

This is impressive MsNole, so before you rank on UGA's defense, you really should take 5 minutes like I did and check your facts.

Ok, so say it again in ya'lls next posts...FSU beat FLA and we lost to them.

:wave: YouGeeAye

How is it that UGA will play 4 SEC West opponents next year? You might want to check back over your information. I still don't quite understand the basis of your bitching though. Yes, I understand that FSU has four losses and UGA only has one loss. However, even with the four losses (two of which came at the hands of QUALITY out of conference opponents) FSU is still more of a national concern than UGA. The fact that FSU did beat UF ought to instill at least a miniscule amount of desire to see if UGA can "set things right" against the state of Florida. Despite all the complaining you do, your beloved Bulldogs won't be in Tempe this year. Get used to it. UGA won't be any bigger of a national draw than Arkansas. I'll admit outright that I don't like UGA one bit but you make me despise them even moreso. You give Bulldog fans like Dawg Quixote a bad name.

You are right. We do not play Ole Miss next year. Just kind of got to be a habit with them on our schedule. We replaced them with LSU. My bad.

As far as the rest of your post, it is right in line with the rest of FSU fans posts......What happened against FLA. We couldn't give a **** about the state of Florida. All we care about in Florida is Florida. They are our stumbling block every year. Again, to those of you that keep grasping at the same FLA straw, that was not the reason for my post. Get that through your thick 4 loss heads :bang:

And furthermore you are another poster that does not check facts. The SEC is giving more tickets to UGA because ARK fans are not buying them. We will have to fill the seats of the team you say is more of a national draw than UGA. Gimme a break witty.

Dawg Qui is too busy rooting for you guys to understand where I am coming from. If FLA had beaten you guys Sat night, they would have moved into the top 10 of the BCS which would have helped UGAs schedule strength in the rankings. Dawg Qui's hatred for FLA blinded him from seeing what was good for UGA and the SEC.

I am die hard UGA dude. Have been since the mid-60s. I actually graduated from UGA, which is more than I can say for 90% of UGA fans out there. I did not start the mud slinging here. I simply do not want to play a 4 loss team in a bowl we busted our ass to get to. I laid the bait and you guys have taken it over and over again. I am loving this and I love even more that we might, just might play a real BCS team in a bowl. I wish for that even in light of the fact that we would have a much easier time against FSU than USC.



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YouGeeAye Wrote:Jeez, you guys are really unbelievable! Get off the FLA kick. It has nothing to do with my post about 4 loss teams in BCS bowls.

Also, what is your deal with schedule strength? In the last BCS poll, UGA was ranked #10 in the nation in schedule strength. That was 5th highest among BCS ranked teams. Do some research before you write these ridiculous posts!

While again you 4 loss losers are writing posts about things that have nothing to do with the topic, lets look at some of the teams that UGA plays next year:

Clemson
LSU
Alabama
Florida
Auburn
Tennessee
Kentucky
Ga. Tech
Ole Miss

This is a sampling of what will surely be one of the top ranked toughest schedules in the nation next year, just like this year.

Last item...To MsNole, again you do not have the facts on what you post. Let's look at UGAs defensive stats darling.

Rush defense ranks 25th in the nation and 6th among BCS ranked teams
Scoring defense ranks 9th in the nation and 5th among BCS ranked teams
Total defense ranks 25th in the nation and 7th among BCS ranked teams

FSU in those same cateogories?

Rush defense ranks 35th in the nation
Scoring defense ranks 32nd in the nation
Total defense ranks 63rd in the nation

This is impressive MsNole, so before you rank on UGA's defense, you really should take 5 minutes like I did and check your facts.

Ok, so say it again in ya'lls next posts...FSU beat FLA and we lost to them.

:wave: YouGeeAye

You're the one who doesn't have their facts straight there ... you are soooo obsessed with Florida State it's making you look even stupidier than you probably really are...

You beat Clemson by WOW 3 points
FSU beat Clemson by 17 points

You LOST to Florida
We BEAT Florida

So if we did happen to play you ... YOU WOULD LOSE TO A 4 LOSS TEAM wouldn't that just KILL YOU even further... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Now run along little boy - your mommy's calling you :laugh:

MsNole,

Finally you say something in your post that makes sense!

Hell yes it would kill me to lose a bowl game to a 4 loss team. That has been my whole point all along! I don't want to go 12-1 and go to a bowl and play a 9-4 team. Read way back at the beginning of my posts where I said that if we were to play FSU in the Sugar, you would have nothing to lose and we would have everything to lose. That is not how it is supposed to be and that was my whole point.

Thank you for finally getting it!

YouGeeAye Wrote:Garnet, I really did not expect anyone to start a petition. It is a point that I am trying to make. I'm having some fun.

Did you really think that I was holding out hope that you guys would start a petition? C'mon really!

There was a team that a few years ago refused to go to a bowl they were invited to and for the life of me I cannot remember who it was. Can anyone shed some light on that? Was it FSU? What bowl was it?

I can't remember what year it was but I think Notre Dame voted not to go to a bowl game one year because of their record. I think they were embarrassed with their record and they decided that they should not go. It wasn't a major bowl, either.

<a href='http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/sports/uga/1202/02notes.html' target='_blank'>http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/sports/ug...02/02notes.html</a>
[ The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: 12/1/02 ]

Arkansas unlikely to sell all their seats

By MARK SCHLABACH
Atlanta Journal-Constitution Staff Writer

Athens -- The additional 2,200 SEC championship game tickets Georgia received this weekend could be just the start.

Arkansas sports information director Kevin Trainor said Sunday night that the Razorbacks don't expect to sell their allotment of 15,900 tickets. The tickets the Hogs don't sell will be sent to the SEC office, which probably will forward the tickets to Georgia or sell them to the public.
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<a href='http://www.hogwired.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.hogwired.com/</a>

Fayetteville, Ark. -- As of noon Monday, Dec. 2, the University of Arkansas has officially sold its allotment of tickets for the 2002 SEC Championship game between the Razorbacks and Georgia Bulldogs.

No more ticket orders will be taken by the Razorback Ticket Office.

Arkansas and Georgia will meet at 5 p.m. CT at the Georgia Dome in Atlanta. The game will be carried nationally by CBS.
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Well, going by those two articles your information was speculation which turned out to be false. In any case, I did not say Arkansas would draw more concern than UGA. You read what you wanted to. Besides, going to New Orleans on New Year's is more plausible an option than going to Atlanta during the first weekend of December. I would hope UGA would draw more people for a game in the state of Georgia.

Hello Ms. Nole! How is your new Barbie site coming along? I hope it turns out to be as successful as Garnet and Gold's petition to keep FSU out of the Sugar Bowl.

I can't turn my back on you kids for a second without you ganging up on YouGeeAye. Georgia's up this year and FSU is down. I don't care about your out of conference schedule. When FSU decided to join a conference they made a deliberate choice NOT to join the SEC. Why? Because it is a hard conference to win every year.

And Special Team is RIGHT....FSU is a program of national concern. It is the gold standard of college football...that's why we hired Mark Richt. We want to be a national concern like we were all those years ago. Playing FSU this year will not enhance our image. But it won't happen because Miami is going to lose to Va Tech. See y'all in Tempe!

Just to clear things up in my head. . .

If Arkansas beats UGA this weekend, do the Razorbacks not deserve a BCS bid because even though they would have won the SEC, they still have three losses? I mean, would USC want to play the Hogs? After all, they would be playing down to the competition (by the original argument).

They would deserve a BCS bid ONLY if they are ranked in the BCS. And ONLY the top 8 teams deserve a BCS bid to one of the 4 major bowls, so no they wouldn't deserve a shot in the Sugar with 3 losses and ranked out of the top 8 in the BCS.

Do you think that USC would want to play a 3 loss team that upset a top ranked 1 loss team? I think not. If USC gets to the Sugar Bowl, then I would assume that they would want to play as highly a ranked team as possible. That was my exact thoughts on UGA playing FSU in the same game.

Oh, and ARK is in the SEC Championship only because ALA can't go.

Arkansas is in the SEC-CG because Alabama finally got punished for being caught with their collective hands in the cookie jar. If 'Bama hadn't been violating all those rules, would they still have been as successful? Yes, Alabama should be in the Title Game this season but they aren't. Maybe FSU shouldn't be in a BCS game but they will be. They met the requirement to get in and PRESTO! They're in. So you're saying that defeating a top 8 BCS team earns one's way to the Music City Bowl? If UGA loses, will they still be in the top 8? If they are, who would want to play a team which choked against a down Florida squad and got knocked off (possibly) by an "unworthy" three loss team? If they get knocked out of the top 8, will you still say only those best 8 should go? For some reason, I get the feeling you'd quickly change your tune.

Interesting tidibit of info over on ESPN's page:

BCS Changes

It isn't Florida State's fault that the Seminoles are guaranteed a place in a BCS bowl. They won an improved ACC with a 7-1 record, so they're in. But that 9-4 overall record isn't exactly easy on the eyes, especially if you're Pete Carroll at USC, or Ferentz at Iowa, or Bill Snyder at Kansas State, or Willingham at Notre Dame, or Chuck Amato at North Carolina State or even Dan Hawkins at Boise State.

"Hey, we knew that," said Tribble. "We signed off on conference champions. That put the importance back on conference races."

He's right, of course. But this is the BCS tradeoff: a worst-case scenario, this time involving FSU.

Even with this latest BCS problem, don't expect the power brokers to turn the system upside down during the offseason.

"Yes, I expect some conversation about (the conference BCS guarantee)," Tribble said. "Do I realistically think something significant will change? I doubt that."

This is what I was talking about in a earlier post about what is going to be known in BCS history as the FSU rule. Watch and see.

Arkansas is in the SEC-CG because Alabama finally got punished for being caught with their collective hands in the cookie jar. If 'Bama hadn't been violating all those rules, would they still have been as successful? Yes, Alabama should be in the Title Game this season but they aren't. Maybe FSU shouldn't be in a BCS game but they will be. They met the requirement to get in and PRESTO! They're in. So you're saying that defeating a top 8 BCS team earns one's way to the Music City Bowl? If UGA loses, will they still be in the top 8? If they are, who would want to play a team which choked against a down Florida squad and got knocked off (possibly) by an "unworthy" three loss team? If they get knocked out of the top 8, will you still say only those best 8 should go? For some reason, I get the feeling you'd quickly change your tune.

Mr. Regularity,

Why do I keep having to explain this over and over again. You have me so confused, I don't know where to begin. What is this about defeating a top 8 BCS team and going to the Music City Bowl? I am talking about each team's final BCS ranking, not who they beat or who they loss to or who they upset. FINAL BCS RANKINGS!! :bang:

I do not know if UGA will still be in the top 8 if they lose to ARK. If not, then no we do not go to a BCS major bowl under my new rules.

And nobody but you guys care that we lost to FLA. Why do ya'll keep bringing that up over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again? I know, it's the only shred of fiber FSU is hanging onto this year. You managed to beat a down trodden FLA team.

And to reitterate, YES I WOULD STAND BY MY CONVICTION THAT IF UGA LOSES AGAINST ARK AND FALLS OUT OF THE TOP 8 BCS, THEN WE DO NOT DESERVE A MAJOR BOWL BID! It is a moot point anyway, because we would not get one even if we were in the top eight.

JEEZ! :mad:

This whole thread is starting to get UGA-ly, over :bang: and over :bang: and over :bang:



<!--EDIT|Garnet & Gold|Dec 2 2002, 07:24 PM-->

I was using your rules and applied them to a situation. If Arkansas beat UGA and the Bulldogs were still in the top 8 somehow, according to your rules the Hogs would go to some lesser bowl anyways. The most likely bowl left over at this point is the Music City Bowl. Therefore, I asked if you agree that a team that won the conference by beating a BCS Top 8 team deserves only the Music City Bowl. I also used your logic when saying deserving teams would not want to play UGA with two losses to lesser teams even though UGA finished in the top 8--just like you didn't want to play FSU who earned their way into BCS game by the rules in effect now.

When will we hit 100 posts

Damn, I think I'm gonna

<!--EDIT|Garnet & Gold|Dec 2 2002, 07:42 PM-->

:eek: :eek: :eek: LMFAO!! Sugar Bowl my A**



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