My motives on posting in this thread is clear: I don't care for the way the media has jumped on this sorta as a tactic during this slow sports period to fill in the gap.

Also, 10MAN - I am trying to reach 5000 posts :D

Thanks 10man :wave:

What's the matter with you 10? You used to be so kind.

AkronObsessed Wrote:#1) Wooden bats in the MAJOR LEAGUES don't last 3 or 4 years southlink

#2) If you are a baseball fan, going to see Sammy during batting practice...what do you wanna see? HOME RUNS. Manny Ramirez brought up a good point while being interviewed that it was probably for batting practice purposes for the fans. (he DOES love his fans, you know)

#3) 1 out of 77 bats...I'd say it could very well be just for B.P.

#4) Right, like Sammy Sosa is the only one in the MLB..or any other professional sport that uses some form of creatine or muscle enhancement. (how do you KNOW it's steroids Link?)

Those are just some thoughts I was pondering.

1) I never said he just this one bat for 3-4 years. I know all about their longitivity. I am saying, how do we know he hasn't had other bats with cork in them? How do we know he didn't use a corked bat the last few years? Please answer me that...you can't!

2) No. If I am a fan, I want to see the team win. Not someone use an illegal bat for practice Home Runs.

3) How do we know that he didn't use other corked bats in other years.

4) Because when you go from 165 to 235 in one year, your on steriods. When you go from a 20 HR guy to 70, your on steriods. Yes, play the "He used creatine" crap all you want but I have used creatine as well for 6 years now and work out everyday for 2 hours. What he does is called "bullsh**" and doctors will agree with you.

SouthLink02 Wrote:1) I never said he just this one bat for 3-4 years. I know all about their longitivity. I am saying, how do we know he hasn't had other bats with cork in them? How do we know he didn't use a corked bat the last few years? Please answer me that...you can't!

I can. :wave:

Quote:The rest of Sammy Sosa's bats were clean, just as he promised they'd be.

The bat Sammy Sosa used in a game Tuesday night was found to have been corked, but five others that were in the possession of the Hall of Fame have been found to be tamper-free.

The National Baseball Hall of Fame announced Thursday that five historic bats that Sosa donated to the museum in recent seasons have been X- rayed and scanned since Sosa was ejected from Tuesday's game at Wrigley Field for using a corked bat. The examinations revealed that the bats donated to the Hall had not been corked.

On Wednesday, Major League Baseball officials revealed that the 76 bats confiscated Tuesday from the Chicago Cubs slugger's collection at the ballpark also were clean.

"The five X-rays, one for every Sosa bat in our collection, reveal no evidence of cork or other materials banned by Major League Baseball," Hall of Fame chairman Jane Forbes Clark said in a statement.

Three bats from the 1998 season, including the one Sosa used to hit home run Nos. 59, 60, 61 and 62, were inspected in Cooperstown at Mary Imogene Bassett Hospital. Two others, including the bat used to hit his final three home runs in 1998 and the one he used to hit his 500th career home run in April, were being displayed at the Field Museum in Chicago and were inspected at the University of Chicago Medical Center.

<a href='http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2003/0605/1563647.html' target='_blank'>http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2003/0605/1563647.html</a>

Rebuttal, anyone?

Ok, ok...I'm not a huge Sammy Sosa fan, I'm just looking at the situation at every perspective.

You bring up some good points.

Like JoltinJacket said, they've been reviewing and checking bats, none have been suspicious - yet at least.

I agree with you. I lift as well, and you and I both know how hard it is to gain even 15-20lbs...let alone THAT much. Sammy was probably on the same stuff as Mark McGwire. If you look at McGwire his rookie season, and McGwire now....whoa. :eek:

I know as a fan you want to see the team win. But most folks also want to see a show during BP. Thats all I'm saying.

Overall, it's just kind of hard to believe that Sammy would do such a thing INTENTIONALLY. I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.

Just trying to look at it at every angle!

AkronObsessed Wrote:

Quote:4) Because when you go from 165 to 235 in one year, your on steriods. When you go from a 20 HR guy to 70, your on steriods.

I agree with you. I lift as well, and you and I both know how hard it is to gain even 15-20lbs...let alone THAT much. Sammy was probably on the same stuff as Mark McGwire. If you look at McGwire his rookie season, and McGwire now....whoa. :eek:

If there is any talk about steroids and things like that, you've got to look at Barry Bonds too. He was a lot scrawnier than Sosa when he first came up, and boom!...he hits about 33 or 34 years old, and all of a sudden he's about 30 lbs heavier (BTW, that 165 to 235 in a year comment is total b.s. Sammy came up at 6 feet-185 lbs, and if you go back and look at his yearly weight, he's gained about 5 lbs a year off and on since '93.)

There's a difference between steadily bulking up and putting on the weight at once (and if anything, Sammy looks smaller than he did last year).



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GDawgs88 Wrote:What's the matter with you 10? You used to be so kind.

I forgot my medication today! :laugh:

JoltinJacket Wrote:

AkronObsessed Wrote:

Quote:4) Because when you go from 165 to 235 in one year, your on steriods. When you go from a 20 HR guy to 70, your on steriods.

I agree with you. I lift as well, and you and I both know how hard it is to gain even 15-20lbs...let alone THAT much. Sammy was probably on the same stuff as Mark McGwire. If you look at McGwire his rookie season, and McGwire now....whoa. :eek:

If there is any talk about steroids and things like that, you've got to look at Barry Bonds too. He was a lot scrawnier than Sosa when he first came up, and boom!...he hits about 33 or 34 years old, and all of a sudden he's about 30 lbs heavier (BTW, that 165 to 235 in a year comment is total b.s. Sammy came up at 6 feet-185 lbs, and if you go back and look at his yearly weight, he's gained about 5 lbs a year off and on since '93.)

There's a difference between steadily bulking up and putting on the weight at once (and if anything, Sammy looks smaller than he did last year).

I will agee with Bonds going on roids. Look at Tatis is his one year in St.Louis. He went from being a scrawny nothing to an injury prone wanna-be that can barely hit anymore and lost tons of muscle

10MAN Wrote:For those that are saying you don't care and that MLB sucks, blah blah blah....why the hell are you in this thread? If you don't care, then find another thread to cry in.

By the way, AkronObsessed, very thought-out post, my friend. A rarity on this topic. Good job!

I don't cry. But I did go to this thread because I did kind of think the Sammy Sosa thing was interesting, until people kept talking and talking about it. It just got boring.

I am a fan of college and high school baseball though. And I love to play baseball myself. I just think MLB sucks. And if you don't like that I am posting this on a thread about someone in MLB, then you know where the ignore button is buddy!

rocketfootball Wrote:I don't cry. But I did go to this thread because I did kind of think the Sammy Sosa thing was interesting, until people kept talking and talking about it. It just got boring.

I am a fan of college and high school baseball though. And I love to play baseball myself. I just think MLB sucks. And if you don't like that I am posting this on a thread about someone in MLB, then you know where the ignore button is buddy!

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