Schadenfreude Wrote:

Quote:I meant 80 Million.....and what did he do with it? Buy uniforms for his "Soldiers"?

That's only a month or two of aid to Israel.

So? We are the only givers of Aid pretty much TO Israel. Palestine isn't even a damn state. We SHOULDN'T be giving them a DAMN thing. That wasn't my point......what did Arafat do with the money we gave them AND the money he got elsewhere? Did he buy uniforms, etc. for his "Soldiers"? No.....he a ****ing terrorist.

The Israeli government is an apartheid state and is a terrorist state.

nate jonesacc Wrote:The Israeli government is an apartheid state and is a terrorist state.

Whatever....the freeist Palestinians are the ones LIVING within the borders of Israel.

There are times when you need to forget about damn laws and do whats right. What is humanly sane.


lol :chair:

I don't think I understood what I just posted...so feel free to move along :D

RebelKev Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:The Israeli government is an apartheid state and is a terrorist state.

Whatever....the freeist Palestinians are the ones LIVING within the borders of Israel.

Ya know why? Because the ones living outside of Israel on the West Bank and Gaza Strip live in hell every day.

AkronObsessed Wrote:There are times when you need to forget about damn laws and do whats right. What is humanly sane.


lol :chair:

What is humanly sane is not violating Geneva Accords, UN Resolutions (remember why we went into Iraq?).

There was a country out that stockpiling nuclear, chemical and biological material... an apartheid state, mass genocide going on... it starts with an "i". It isn't Iraq. Anyone wanna take a stab?

Quote:what did Arafat do with the money we gave them AND the money he got elsewhere? Did he buy uniforms, etc. for his "Soldiers"? No.....he a ****ing terrorist.

Or he's a liberator.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

John Paul Jones was a terrorist. Of course, the word had not been coined yet, but that's what he was to the British.

Excerpt from an msnbc.com article about him:

[quote]In April 1778, (Jones) set out from France ... to burn the fishing fleet in the English port of Whitehaven and kidnap and hold for ransom a Scottish peer of the realm, the Earl of Selkirk.
Book Excerpt: 'John Paul Jones'

Hey nate, you could also talk about how the whole jessica lynch thing was a sham, the "rescue" created by the US government to divert attention from the other failures of the invasion

:ownd:

If Bush wasn't a ******ing teflon president, he'd have been exposed for the fraud that he is by now


There's even the CIA that doubted the WMD in the first place.

Good to see you again, too.

Palestinians killed [2]

(Shuhada`)
859 deaths including 77 assassinations (war crime according to the Hague Convention- 1907).

26% < 18 years. 85.4 % civilian. 203 killed by heavy weapons. 529 killed by live ammunition. Investigations were not conducted, granting immunity to Israelis and allowing them to act unlawfully[3]

Palestinians injured

+ 20,000[4]
West Bank[5]:29.5% children, 32.7% live ammunition, 64.7% upper body, 39% moderate-severe (14,523 cases, 27/11)

Gaza Strip[6]: 57% children, 37% live ammunition, 60% upper body, (4,279 cases-Aug 7th)

Permanent Disabilities Estimated at 2,000. Ministry of Health estimated 437 Palestinian child disabled[7].

Israelis killed[8] 212 of which 64% soldiers or settlers (illegally residing in WBGS)

Attacks on Emergency Medical Personnel and Services[9] 3 (1 German & 2 Palestinian) physicians killed from Israeli shelling of residential areas while on duty.

1 Palestinian Red Crescent Society (PRCS) ambulance driver killed while on duty.

116 PRCS Emergency Medical Technicians injured. 46 Union of Palestinian Medical Relief Committees (UPMRC) first aid workers injured (including 2 physicians).

60 (69% of their fleet) PRCS ambulances hit by live ammunition, rubber bullets, and/or stones thrown by Israeli settlers in 159 separate attacks. 221 incidents of denial of access to PRCS ambulances at roadblocks were reported.[10] 43 incidents of denial of access to UPMRC teams

Attacks on Hospitals
(wounding patients, cutting off electricity supplies)
Shelling of French hospital (Bethlehem), damages estimated at $25,000[11], Al Hussein hospital (Bethlehem)[12]. Live ammunition fired at Beit Jala, A-Dibs, French, & Al-Yamama Hospitals in Bethlehem.[13], Al Alia Hospital (Hebron) on 3 occasions[14], access denied to Khalid hospital (Ramallah) for several days[15]

Settlers attacked Augusta Victoria Hospital (Jerusalem), shot security officer (automatic gun)[16]

Journalists At least 150 journalists shot or beaten by Israeli soldiers/settlers. At least 14 press centers shelled.[17]

Types of Ammunition used[18] Bullets: 5.56 mm (223 caliber), 7.02 mm, 9 mm, 50 caliber, 500 mm, 800 mm, rubber coated steel, plastic. Missiles. Tank Fire. F-16 fighter jets (4 attacks

Just decided to post in this forum for the first time to say 2 things:

Bush is the man.

It was the right thing to go into Iraq. Whether we find weapons or not, Hussein was a threat and we also liberated their country.

nate jonesacc Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:The Israeli government is an apartheid state and is a terrorist state.

Whatever....the freeist Palestinians are the ones LIVING within the borders of Israel.

Ya know why? Because the ones living outside of Israel on the West Bank and Gaza Strip live in hell every day.

Then the punk b-itches shouldn't have let their land be USED for invasion of Israel. Screw 'em. Jordan kicked 'em out....we don't hear ANYTHING about that...........

nate jonesacc Wrote:What is humanly sane is not violating Geneva Accords, UN Resolutions (remember why we went into Iraq?).

There was a country out that stockpiling nuclear, chemical and biological material... an apartheid state, mass genocide going on... it starts with an "i". It isn't Iraq. Anyone wanna take a stab?

Screw the UN....they are always FOR the little despot countries......but NEVER for freedom. Take a look at that insignificant Kofi Annan. Where is he from? Rrrrriiiiggghhhhttttt.....

[quote="Schadenfreude"]

Or he's a liberator.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

John Paul Jones was a terrorist. Of course, the word had not been coined yet, but that's what he was to the British.

Excerpt from an msnbc.com article about him:

[quote]In April 1778, (Jones) set out from France ... to burn the fishing fleet in the English port of Whitehaven and kidnap and hold for ransom a Scottish peer of the realm, the Earl of Selkirk.
Book Excerpt: 'John Paul Jones'

SSJT Wrote:Hey nate, you could also talk about how the whole jessica lynch thing was a sham, the "rescue" created by the US government to divert attention from the other failures of the invasion

:ownd:

If Bush wasn't a ******ing teflon president, he'd have been exposed for the fraud that he is by now


There's even the CIA that doubted the WMD in the first place.

Good to see you again, too.

Oh yeah, and YOUR dumb*** knows.....right? I guess my friend and former soldier with the 75th Ranger Regiment is lying to me. Uh huh........I should believe you over him. I FREAKING doubt it.

nate jonesacc Wrote:Palestinians killed [2]

....{Snip}

Should i post the numbers of Israelis? They were attacked in the late 60's from these "So-Called" Palestinian lands. They are LUCKY that Israel never incorporated them into Israel. Israel played it smart. They gave the Palestinians a way out....of course those bastards are being ran by the 20% that wants ALL Jews dead.......so.......F 'em. LET'EM die. If they can't stand up against their radicals.....Israel HAS to do something.

....and JUST to tell you people ONE damn thing, .....being in the military for the ENTIRE Clinton Administration......we had A LOT to be skeptical about. Why did we go to Bosnia? Kosovo? Haiti? Somalia withou ****ING BACKUP!!!!... :mad: ...yeah, IT SUCKED!, why were the USS Cole bombed, Kobar Towers, WTC '93, with no recourse besides trying to find the ones that actually did it? Yeah, THAT worked as we ALL know when you want to fight a fireant bed......you just go after the ones that BITE you.... :rolleyes:

Quote:You need your punk ****** BEAT. John Paul Jones would attack the military...NOT freaking women and children!!!!!!! Go off and die somewhere. How's about "Palestine". I'll buy your ticket....you won't as I feel you are a wuss.

Follow the link. Or just read the excerpt I posted *carefully*. Feel free to move your lips it if helps.

Jones' mission was to burn a fleet of British fishing boats and to kidnap, then hold for ransom, the 18th century equivalent of a state governor. His goal was to strike fear into the hearts of British civilians, and to make them believe no one was safe, not even in England.

Sounds like terrorism to me, and I'm not alone in that thought.

By the way: I'm an American. I was born here. And I'm not moving -- even though I know how much you want to to live in a fantasy America where everyone agrees with you.

:la: :la: :la:

Quote:It was the right thing to go into Iraq. Whether we find weapons or not, Hussein was a threat

Without weapons, saddam Hussein was an immenent threat?

To who? Mustache fans?

Whether we find weapons or not, no one has ever established Iraq was an imminent threat to American security. It wasn't established before we sent troops in -- and with each passing day, that claim looks ever more ridiculous.

We've spent $80 billion, if not more. We've already lost close to 200 American lives. We're losing a soldier a day. No clear end is in sight. Iraqis are slowly growing more pissed off. All that -- to find two trucks.

Yeah, that was worth it. :rolleyes:

We eliminated a threat and liberated a country... illegally. You can't go into another man's house and kill him because he beats his wife and has a stockpile of guns. That's the police's (UN's) job.