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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JoltinJacket:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nate jonesacc:
Laugh at me if you want, but Carl Franks is putting this program in the right direction. I have heard nothing but positive vibes from spring practice, and he hauled in a great recruiting class by our standards. In the next 5 years, Duke football won't be a joke anymore.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The hard facts...Since 1995, Duke is 12-57 overall and 6-50 in the ACC, plus you guys haven't won a game since last century and it won't get any easier this year.

Dook's 2002 Schedule...
8/31 vs. East Carolina
9/7 vs. Louisville
9/14 @ Northwestern
9/21 @ Florida State
9/28 @ Navy
10/5 vs. Virginia
10/12 @ Wake Forest
10/19 @ North Carolina State
10/26 vs. Maryland
11/2 vs. Clemson
11/16 @ Georgia Tech
11/23 vs. North Carolina

No gimmies in that schedule...look out Dookies, it could be 36 losses in a row <img border="0" alt="[Laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laughing.gif" /> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The games I think we can win:

Navy
Northwestern
ECU (a bit of a longshot, but a fair chance)
Wake Forest
Louisville

I see us winning two of those games, and surprising one other team, thus getting 2 wins. We definately should be able to beat Navy, and the other four we could beat. I think we have the potential to upset a UVA or NCSU on the right day. Don't laugh at the possibility of 3 wins, I believe it will happen. We also have 1 more game next year than last year.
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awoseme joke,jolt. I'll save it.

as for duke next year --- I'll say they'll come within 2 touchdowns of eastern carolina, that'll be the closest game <img border="0" alt="[Laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laughing.gif" />
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No way Duke beat Louisville, I'll put money on it.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nate jonesacc:
Here is a brief rundown of Duke's impact players.

Ben Patrick: incoming freshman
He is the Mike Dunleavy of football. At his HS, he played QB, punter, TE, tail back, defensive line, offensive line. He is 6'4" and will probably play TE for Duke next year. Could take first team ALL-ACC Mike Hart's spot due to graduation. Ben was rated 4 stars out of 5 by rivals (much better at ranking football than basketball, IMO) and rated the 15 best TE in the nation; the cornerstone of Duke's incoming class.

</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Only a Dookie would compare Mike Dunleavy to a football player in a positive way. <img border="0" alt="[Laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laughing.gif" /> If Mike Dunleavy ever played football he would be the kid who went home crying to mommy everytime he got hit.
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I was comparing their versatility, just in case you didn't get that.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terpy:
No way Duke beat Louisville, I'll put money on it.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I wouldn't be so sure. They are a good team, but I think we have a good shot.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terpy:
No way Duke beat Louisville, I'll put money on it.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ditto for me....Louisville has way too much talent. They are easily a top 25 team.

Don't count Wake as a gimmie game. They have improved incredibly under Jim Grobe. They won at UVA and came back from about a 25 point defecit to win at UNC last year. Plus they nearly upset Clemson and Tech.

Duke vs. Wake is no longer the Tidy Bowl. Duke vs. Navy.....now that's another story <img border="0" alt="[Laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laughing.gif" />

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I'm not considering Wake a gimmie team. I just think that we have a realistic chance at beating them.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nate jonesacc:
I was comparing their versatility, just in case you didn't get that.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The idea that Dunleavy is versatile is a huge misconception created by media types like Dukie V. Dunleavy is a shooter, nothing more, he doesnt have a defensive presense, no post game nothing but a smooth shot, just because he is 6'9 and he can shoot doesnt mean he is versatile. For people to really believe that Dunlady is versatile is a joke really. If you wanted to compare him to someone who is really versatile how about a young Kordell Stewart or if you really wanted to compare him to a basketball player how about Jared Jefferies.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nate jonesacc:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terpy:
No way Duke beat Louisville, I'll put money on it.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I wouldn't be so sure. They are a good team, but I think we have a good shot.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So do you want to bet? I have 20 bucks that says Dook wont beat Louisville.
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This is the first good football thread we've had in a long time.

Let's keep it going!
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Wake is going to kill Duke. We barely beat them this year, they whooped up on UNC in the second half, and played great games against almost every top ACC opponent. They aren't losing that much either.

OTOH..you have Duke which got spanked by every team in the ACC. Whether they get better or not, Wake should handle Duke easily.

I applaud nate and Big Case for sticking up for their team though. Try and be a little more realistic.

Navy is the only game you have a chance of winning this year. Sorry.
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You are highly under rating Dunleavy. He pulls down 7 rebounds a game and gets a lot of steals down low. He's taken some charges this year, too. He has a very good pull up shot, also. One thing I can agree with you on is that he needs some more post moves, and could use even more added weight to bang. Otherwise, to be 6'9"-10", able to shoot long threes, have a silky smooth pull up, pull down 7 rebounds and take charges is what I call versatility.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by whitevillepack:

OTOH..you have Duke which got spanked by every team in the ACC. Whether they get better or not, Wake should handle Duke easily.

Navy is the only game you have a chance of winning this year. Sorry.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Duke was tied with Wake heading into the fourth quarter last year. We ended up losing by either 1 or 2 touchdowns, hardly a spanking. We held our own against GT, too, IIRC. I don't remember what happened with UVA, but I think it was respectable. I will look it up later.

But, I know for a fact we were tied with Wake late in that game after making a remarkable comeback.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terpy:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nate jonesacc:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terpy:
No way Duke beat Louisville, I'll put money on it.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I wouldn't be so sure. They are a good team, but I think we have a good shot.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So do you want to bet? I have 20 bucks that says Dook wont beat Louisville.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, I don't. I don't think we will win, I just think we have a fair shot.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nate jonesacc:
You are highly under rating Dunleavy. He pulls down 7 rebounds a game and gets a lot of steals down low. He's taken some charges this year, too. He has a very good pull up shot, also. One thing I can agree with you on is that he needs some more post moves, and could use even more added weight to bang. Otherwise, to be 6'9"-10", able to shoot long threes, have a silky smooth pull up, pull down 7 rebounds and take charges is what I call versatility.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've got to agree with him on this one Terpy. Dunleavy is a very versatile player.
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Check that, my mistake.

Duke lost by 21 to GTech. I remember it being close at halftime, that's probably why I thought it was close. We did score 31 against Clemson. Not that it's any consolation to losing by 28, but at least we were scoring. We lost to Wake by 1 TD.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nate jonesacc:
We held our own against GT, too, IIRC. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sure did...I'll give you guys credit for that. I was at that game in Durham. It was a rainy homecoming and about 3,000 Duke fans showed up. I think Tech led 17-13 at the half before pulling away and winning 37-13.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nate jonesacc:
Duke was tied with Wake heading into the fourth quarter last year. We ended up losing by either 1 or 2 touchdowns, hardly a spanking....I know for a fact we were tied with Wake late in that game after making a remarkable comeback.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Correct! Duke trailed Wake 28-0 at the half and 35-7 in the 3rd quarter before storming back to tie it at 35 in the 4th. Wake scored on their next possesion and that was it.

Defense killed the Devils last year. They allowed less than 31 points only once <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> (a 15-13 loss to Rice). In their other games, they allowed 31, 37, 42, 42, 44, 52, 55, 55, 59, 59
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JoltinJacket:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nate jonesacc:
Duke was tied with Wake heading into the fourth quarter last year. We ended up losing by either 1 or 2 touchdowns, hardly a spanking....I know for a fact we were tied with Wake late in that game after making a remarkable comeback.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Defense killed the Devils last year. They allowed less than 31 points only once <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> (a 15-13 loss to Rice). In their other games, they allowed 31, 37, 42, 42, 44, 52, 55, 55, 59, 59</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Amen to that. We had a good offense going there. Mike Hart was stellar (should be a fairly high draft pick) and Chris Douglas is someone you expect to see at FSU or Clemson, not Duke. D Bryant had some great games, he just didn't get much help from the other side of the ball.

Our defensive line was absolute pitiful. Alex Green was a great safety, but our corners were pretty bad. If the rest of the team was like out LBs, we would have a great defense. Too bad it's not, though. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

BTW, forgot to mention this, but the transfer QB at Rutgers has been turning some heads big time. His name is Chris Dapolito, and he was supposed to be good at Rutgers, except, IIRC, the coach's son took his spot. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

If you haven't been able to tell yet, I am a die hard Duke football junkie/fan. I can name every player in Duke's recruiting class from last year at the drop of a hat. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />
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