the other Greg Childers Wrote:

GrayBeard Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

GrayBeard Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Yeah, it's a much better idea to be forced to choose from an extremely short list of health care providers in your HMO, while watching your deductibles go up while your coverage goes down.

Maybe you should look at the company you work for or the coverage you elected before you start whining about it. My healthcare deductible went down ~2 years ago, and has not risen since.

For my company, the number of providers has decreased and the deductible has gone up.

Is that the fault of the American health care system, or is it a problem with the plan that your employer provided?

Well, the American health care system is motivated by profit so I'll have to say it's their fault. They're trying to squeeze as many dollars from the American public as possible while providing as few benefits as possible.

It is what it is.

And what is wrong with people being motivated by profit? That's what helped to make this country.

I wonder what people like you would do before we had health insurance. You'd probably still sit there and wait for the government to tell you what to do.

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Yeah, it's a much better idea to be forced to choose from an extremely short list of health care providers in your HMO, while watching your deductibles go up while your coverage goes down.

As opposed to having a health care system that operates with government efficiency?

dfarr Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

GrayBeard Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

GrayBeard Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Yeah, it's a much better idea to be forced to choose from an extremely short list of health care providers in your HMO, while watching your deductibles go up while your coverage goes down.

Maybe you should look at the company you work for or the coverage you elected before you start whining about it. My healthcare deductible went down ~2 years ago, and has not risen since.

For my company, the number of providers has decreased and the deductible has gone up.

Is that the fault of the American health care system, or is it a problem with the plan that your employer provided?

Well, the American health care system is motivated by profit so I'll have to say it's their fault. They're trying to squeeze as many dollars from the American public as possible while providing as few benefits as possible.

It is what it is.

And what is wrong with people being motivated by profit? That's what helped to make this country.

I wonder what people like you would do before we had health insurance. You'd probably still sit there and wait for the government to tell you what to do.

Being motivated by profit is fine.

Jacking up prices while cutting services in an industry that is one of the necessities of life is rather suspect.

Do you like paying too much for health care coverage?

GGniner Wrote:btw, most of the scotus nominations of Reagan and HW Bush are libs

Um, no. They aren't.

dfarr Wrote:And what is wrong with people being motivated by profit? That's what helped to make this country.

I thought it was our Judeo-Christian values. Or are we saving that one for next week?

dfarr Wrote:I wonder what people like you would do before we had health insurance. You'd probably still sit there and wait for the government to tell you what to do.

Not all of 'we' has health insurance. Which is why some adults have had to resort to getting help from the childrens' health insurance initiatives. You know, the ones conservatives never wanted to fund and don't want allocate more money to in the midst of exploding costs.

RebelKev Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Yeah, it's a much better idea to be forced to choose from an extremely short list of health care providers in your HMO, while watching your deductibles go up while your coverage goes down.

All that **** started under Clinton. Got another, dumb***, and unresearched complaint?

How old are you?

Actually, the HMO concept was promoted by the Nixon Administration.

Managed care is a concept in U.S. health care that started to influence health policy during the presidency of Ronald Reagan, ostensibly as a way to control Medicare payouts. But Paul Starr suggests in his analysis of the American health care system (i.e., The Social Transformation of American Medicine) that Ronald Reagan was the first mainstream political leader to take deliberate steps to reform American health care from its longstanding not-for-profit business principles into a for-profit model that would be driven by the insurance industry.