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Why pacifying the Islamic militants will not work.

Maybe we don't need to be over in the middle east. The islamic nuts will end up killing themselves. We should pull out of Iraq and put all of our soldiers around Israel's boarder and let the nuts kill themselves.
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you'd think they would've figured this out after it failed with Hitler.


if we abandon ME, then Iran definitely gets nukes if not others which completely changes the ballgame. In addition to the worldwide need to see oil freely flowing and by extensions our lives. The world is so much more complicated now than ever before.
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GrayBeard Wrote:Why pacifying the Islamic militants will not work.

Maybe we don't need to be over in the middle east. The islamic nuts will end up killing themselves. We should pull out of Iraq and put all of our soldiers around Israel's boarder and let the nuts kill themselves.

Wasn't that Reagan's strategy?
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About as smart as givng Jewish people land in the middle of Islamic countries. 01-wingedeagle
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RobertN Wrote:About as smart as givng Jewish people land in the middle of Islamic countries. 01-wingedeagle

Jewish people were there before the damn creation of Israel, not to mention, the land belonged to ENGLAND at the time. Try again, Jew-hater.
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RobertN Wrote:About as smart as givng Jewish people land in the middle of Islamic countries. 01-wingedeagle

IF, the Islamic rats that were hellbent on destroying everything that is not Muslim (and their sect of Islam at that) would learn to actually be peaceful, this would be a non-issue. These muslims have proven themselves to be nothing but blood/power thirsty fanatics. The stuff going on in Gaza is proof of that.
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GrayBeard Wrote:IF, the Islamic rats that were hellbent on destroying everything that is not Muslim (and their sect of Islam at that) would learn to actually be peaceful, this would be a non-issue. These muslims have proven themselves to be nothing but blood/power thirsty fanatics. The stuff going on in Gaza is proof of that.

I'm thinking RobertN would give them the keys to Washington, as long as they provided for him.
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You guys are missing the real problem here.

I for one am glad that our government cannot declare a national religion, because that is the issue here.

How many of you on this board would fight or die to protect your religion and your religious beliefs? Even though it is misguided, that is exactly what a lot of the Muslims people believe.
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uhmump95 Wrote:How many of you on this board would fight or die to protect your religion and your religious beliefs?

No....Yes
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uhmump95 Wrote:How many of you on this board would fight or die to protect your religion and your religious beliefs?

No....Yes
So you would fight for your country but not for your religion?
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uhmump95 Wrote:How many of you on this board would fight or die to protect your religion and your religious beliefs?

No....Yes
So you would fight for your country but not for your religion?

If you are asking if I would go out and kill others because they were not Christian, no I would not.

Would I fight for my country? If called upon, I would.

Would I die for my faith? YES, I sure hope that I would!
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GrayBeard Wrote:If you are asking if I would go out and kill others because they were not Christian, no I would not.
Where did I ask if you would kill someone just because they are not a Christion?

I asked if you would fight to defend your religion, like you would fight to defend your country.
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GrayBeard Wrote:If you are asking if I would go out and kill others because they were not Christian, no I would not.
Where did I ask if you would kill someone just because they are not a Christion?

I asked if you would fight to defend your religion, like you would fight to defend your country.

When you said "fight" I took it as take up arms. No, I would not do that, but I will stand up for my religion.

No, I would not be like the Islamic nut jobs and just kill people because they are not like me.
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uhmump95 Wrote:Even though it is misguided, that is exactly what a lot of the Muslims people believe.

Then you completely don't know what you're talking about. Hamas isn't fighting to protect their religion. They are fighting to impose their religion.
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uhmump95 Wrote:Even though it is misguided, that is exactly what a lot of the Muslims people believe.

Then you completely don't know what you're talking about. Hamas isn't fighting to protect their religion. They are fighting to impose their religion.
Yes I do know what I am talking about. They are fighting to "impose" their religion because the believe if that if another "sect" their religion takes over, then they will be wiped out.

This is not rocket science.
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Mump,

Are you excusing these execution style killings because you beleive they are "defending" their religion?
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uhmump95 Wrote:Yes I do know what I am talking about. They are fighting to "impose" their religion because the believe if that if another "sect" their religion takes over, then they will be wiped out.

This is not rocket science.

..and once again, you prove you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Israel has shown nothing in terms of hindering their right to worship whom they wish. THEY just don't want that worship to involve killing their citizens in f'n coffee shops.
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GrayBeard Wrote:Mump,

Are you excusing these execution style killings because you beleive they are "defending" their religion?

If it walks like a duck........
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GrayBeard Wrote:Mump,

Are you excusing these execution style killings because you beleive they are "defending" their religion?
I did not excuse anything. It is my belief that what they are doing is wrong.

I just don't think you should say that "those people are nut jobs" without attempting to understand why they are "nut jobs".
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GrayBeard Wrote:Mump,

Are you excusing these execution style killings because you beleive they are "defending" their religion?
I did not excuse anything. It is my belief that what they are doing is wrong.

I just don't think you should say that "those people are nut jobs" without attempting to understand why they are "nut jobs".

I think the people involved in this and those involved in the homicide bombings are nutjubs. Just like I think Eric Rudolph is a nutjob, and the Unibomber, etc.
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