Who has the best tv market between UCF,ecu and memphis st?UCF

If only they could command that market. They don't now.

bitcruncher Wrote:If only they could command that market. They don't now.

That's true...same for USF in regards to Tampa (UF and FSU dominate)...but Big East invited them on future potential...as being located in a 3.4 Million Poulation Metro Area....Top 13 TV Market....8th largest University in the USA and growing.

UCF...in a large Metro area of 2.2 Million folks...Top 20 TV Market...and now the 6th largest University in the USA and growing.

Current and potential market isn't obviously the only variable set into any invite equation...but it is definitely ONE.

tigersharktwo Wrote:Who has the best tv market between UCF,ecu and memphis st?UCF

But we are all "C-USA leftovers"! Remember? What's the matter, is Tranghese's house of cards not ready for a gust of Big 10 wind? Don't worry, your parasites will see you through.

Alvarez thinks expansion a good thing for Big Ten

The latest push to add a 12th school to the Big Ten Conference is being fueled on multiple fronts - mainly the birth of a new cable TV enterprise - but it was triggered by scheduling issues with non-league programs in football and men's basketball.

University of Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez said Friday renewed interest in expansion came to life during a regularly scheduled meeting of league ADs in May.

"We were talking about scheduling - a number of different things, really - and one of the directors brought it up," Alvarez said of adding another school. "He said, 'We haven't heard anything about this. It really would solve a lot of the problems that we're talking about.' "

Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany took it a step further earlier this week when he told the Des Moines (Iowa) Register that "we need to look at (adding another school) in the next year."

Next on the docket, Alvarez said, is a "serious discussion about (expansion) as directors" with Delany during the annual Big Ten preseason football meetings Tuesday in Chicago.

Alvarez said Big Ten schools are encountering increased difficulty, and frustration, when it comes to filling their four non-conference football dates. There has been a significant increase in the amount of guarantees - payouts to opponents for playing at Big Ten venues - being commanded by visiting schools since the NCAA gave its blessing to a 12-game regular-season schedule in 2006.

"Some of the non-conference teams that we're forced to schedule with our 12th game really have us over a barrel (and) are charging us an arm and a leg," Alvarez said. "It's not right. "We have to find a solution. Obviously this would be a solution where you play another conference game."

Adding a 12th school to the Big Ten manifest has not been on the front burner publicly since 1999 when Delany tried to lure Notre Dame into the fold.

Alvarez said he doesn't think Notre Dame, which decided to retain its independence in football, will factor into the latest search even though the Fighting Irish represent the most favorable combination of academics, finances and popularity for the Big Ten.

Delany declined to offer specific possibilities to the Register, but the paper cited Rutgers and Syracuse, both members of the Big East Conference, as potential candidates. Missouri, a member of the Big 12 Conference, has been mentioned in past discussions about expanding the Big Ten.

Alvarez didn't identify specific options, either, but said Delany met with the athletic director and the president of a school "that was very serious a few years ago" about joining the Big Ten.

"This one was so outside the box that no one would ever anticipate, or guess who this was," Alvarez said.

A major factor in the expansion equation is the Big Ten Network, which is scheduled to debut Aug. 30. It's reasonable to assume a 12th school, in addition to being judged academically compatible, would provide access to a sizable viewing market.

Delany and Big Ten Network president Mark Silverman are currently visiting all the campuses in the Big Ten to discuss issues like cable rates and expansion. Alvarez said the tour will stop in Madison Thursday.

The last time the Big Ten expanded was in 1994 when Penn State was added.

"I think Jim's pretty wide open on this thing," Alvarez said, adding the ideal candidate would be any school "that would bring in more viewers to help with TV contracts and bring something to the league, much like Penn State did."

http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/sports/in...tid=203208

[quote=SO#1]
Alvarez thinks expansion a good thing for Big Ten

The latest push to add a 12th school to the Big Ten Conference is being fueled on multiple fronts - mainly the birth of a new cable TV enterprise - but it was triggered by scheduling issues with non-league programs in football and men's basketball.

University of Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez said Friday renewed interest in expansion came to life during a regularly scheduled meeting of league ADs in May.

"We were talking about scheduling - a number of different things, really - and one of the directors brought it up," Alvarez said of adding another school. "He said, 'We haven't heard anything about this. It really would solve a lot of the problems that we're talking about.' "

Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany took it a step further earlier this week when he told the Des Moines (Iowa) Register that "we need to look at (adding another school) in the next year."

Next on the docket, Alvarez said, is a "serious discussion about (expansion) as directors" with Delany during the annual Big Ten preseason football meetings Tuesday in Chicago.

Alvarez said Big Ten schools are encountering increased difficulty, and frustration, when it comes to filling their four non-conference football dates. There has been a significant increase in the amount of guarantees - payouts to opponents for playing at Big Ten venues - being commanded by visiting schools since the NCAA gave its blessing to a 12-game regular-season schedule in 2006.

"Some of the non-conference teams that we're forced to schedule with our 12th game really have us over a barrel (and) are charging us an arm and a leg," Alvarez said. "It's not right. "We have to find a solution. Obviously this would be a solution where you play another conference game."

Maybe I'm missing the point here, but since the B11 don't play all schools now in conference games, why not just add another conference game? The real need is to add a school and region that lets the league argue that the BTN isn't a regional network. Only ND gets you that, IMO.

SO#1 Wrote:Alvarez thinks expansion a good thing for Big Ten
Delany declined to offer specific possibilities to the Register, but the paper cited Rutgers and Syracuse, both members of the Big East Conference, as potential candidates. Missouri, a member of the Big 12 Conference, has been mentioned in past discussions about expanding the Big Ten.

Alvarez didn't identify specific options, either, but said Delany met with the athletic director and the president of a school "that was very serious a few years ago" about joining the Big Ten.

"This one was so outside the box that no one would ever anticipate, or guess who this was," Alvarez said.

"I think Jim's pretty wide open on this thing," Alvarez said, adding the ideal candidate would be any school "that would bring in more viewers to help with TV contracts and bring something to the league, much like Penn State did."

http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/sports/in...tid=203208

Well, if this was several years ago and "ouside the box", I would say that Rutgers fits the bill.

ChooChoo Wrote:

SO#1 Wrote:Alvarez thinks expansion a good thing for Big Ten
Delany declined to offer specific possibilities to the Register, but the paper cited Rutgers and Syracuse, both members of the Big East Conference, as potential candidates. Missouri, a member of the Big 12 Conference, has been mentioned in past discussions about expanding the Big Ten.

Alvarez didn't identify specific options, either, but said Delany met with the athletic director and the president of a school "that was very serious a few years ago" about joining the Big Ten.

"This one was so outside the box that no one would ever anticipate, or guess who this was," Alvarez said.

"I think Jim's pretty wide open on this thing," Alvarez said, adding the ideal candidate would be any school "that would bring in more viewers to help with TV contracts and bring something to the league, much like Penn State did."

http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/sports/in...tid=203208

Well, if this was several years ago and "ouside the box", I would say that Rutgers fits the bill.

If it was really out of the box, and no one would guess who this school was, then that would rule out any BE school, since it would not surprise anyone that a BE school approached the the Big 10, or any conference a few years ago, especially if it was during Acc expansion.

cuseroc Wrote:

ChooChoo Wrote:

SO#1 Wrote:Alvarez thinks expansion a good thing for Big Ten
Delany declined to offer specific possibilities to the Register, but the paper cited Rutgers and Syracuse, both members of the Big East Conference, as potential candidates. Missouri, a member of the Big 12 Conference, has been mentioned in past discussions about expanding the Big Ten.

Alvarez didn't identify specific options, either, but said Delany met with the athletic director and the president of a school "that was very serious a few years ago" about joining the Big Ten.

"This one was so outside the box that no one would ever anticipate, or guess who this was," Alvarez said.

"I think Jim's pretty wide open on this thing," Alvarez said, adding the ideal candidate would be any school "that would bring in more viewers to help with TV contracts and bring something to the league, much like Penn State did."

http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/sports/in...tid=203208

Well, if this was several years ago and "ouside the box", I would say that Rutgers fits the bill.

If it was really out of the box, and no one would guess who this school was, then that would rule out any BE school, since it would not surprise anyone that a BE school approached the the Big 10, or any conference a few years ago, especially if it was during Acc expansion.

My thinking is that out of the box school is Texas; they were mentioned last time around for the Big 10. I think Texas is a non-fit, but they would bring a huge market in the central time zone.

Texas, no, maybe Nebraska!

One possible fallout of not picking an eastern team is the fact that they could irritate the Nittany Lions enough for them to leave the Big 10 for an eastern conference.

That's a conference realignment that would solve problems for a lot of people. The Big 10 didn't draw as much of an audience as they thought with Penn State, since the Nittany Lions haven't been very competitive in the Big 10. They've not had very many years when they were able to compete for the Big 10 title. And this doesn't sit very well with the alumni in State College.

I'd love to see that.

Syracuse hardly brings in the New York market and certainly won't do it alone.
If NYC isn't tuned in to watch Syr play neighbor Uconn- when both schools have students from NYC- how many New Yorkers are going to have more interest in watching SYR play some school from the midwest.
If the Big East can't break into the NYC market with St. Johns, Syracuse, Uconn, Seton Hall and Rutgers- all of who draw a number of students from NYC, what is the Big 10 going to do with just one team from the region. All of a sudden NYC becomes will be big 10 country? If you take SYR and their BB tournament out of Madison Square Garden- the Cuse becomes Syra-who?
It's foolish- Just as foolish as the ACC's expansion dream.
All these conferences with their plans to get richer. I doubt SYR ever joins the Big 10- The Big East is best positioned to exploit the NYC market if they ever figure it out.