...............Lieberman, but being the puppet on the string that he is, he can't make his own decisions. Picking a women just to pick a women. SMH


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26501863/

I understand that he added Palin to pull the women vote. My only question is, couldn't he have found a better woman for the nomination?

uhmump95 Wrote:I understand that he added Palin to pull the women vote. My only question is, couldn't he have found a better woman for the nomination?

What don't you like about her?

GrayBeard Wrote:

uhmump95 Wrote:I understand that he added Palin to pull the women vote. My only question is, couldn't he have found a better woman for the nomination?

What don't you like about her?

She's conservative.

He asked Hillary, but then discovered she wasn't really a woman!

Lieberman would have been my first choice.
If not him, my second choice would have been Palin.

I think the handlers are trying to keep wraps on her, and I think that's a mistake. I think they need to get her out and let her go. She'll probably step in it a couple of times, but the more exposure she gets, the more I think people will realize that the Barracuda is not your ordinary small town girl. Everybody's expecting her to screw up, so instead of holding your breath and worrying about it, let her rip. She might just score a big win or two. This woman has won tough fights and she's got good instincts; let her go with them.

A lot of the stuff that the mainstream media finds negative will actually play pretty well with the "bitter people who cling to guns and religion." Those are the people that are going to decide Pennsylvania and Ohio and Michigan and Florida. And Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, and Florida are going to decide this election.

I think the McCain campaign needs to find an issue where she can speak with expertise. It just so happens that the number 2 issue, if not the number 1 issue, with most Americans is energy--where the Barracuda has more experience than Obama, Biden, and McCain combined. If I were running things, I'd lean very hard toward using her VP acceptance speech to lay out the McCain energy policy. If she did a first-class job with that, and there's absolutely no reason to believe that she would not, then I think a lot of the negatives go away.

Right now, Paris Hilton has a better energy policy than either major candidate. I've spent 35 years working in one phase or another of the energy industry, and I'm dead serious with that comment. What she said in her silly little video makes more sense than anything Obama or McCain has said on the subject. Let Palin roll out a better plan, and I really think it'd get a lot harder to make the negatives stick.

GrayBeard Wrote:

uhmump95 Wrote:I understand that he added Palin to pull the women vote. My only question is, couldn't he have found a better woman for the nomination?

What don't you like about her?

I am sorry but being a mayor and 2 year Governor of Alaska just doesn't do it 4 me.

If he wanted a woman, why didn't he pick Kay Bailey Hutchison?

I liked Palin because energy is looking like the republicans' best issue, and she is their most knowledgeable spokesperson on it.

Give her a forum where she can explain energy to Joe and Jane Average American in terms they can understand. Then let her go hunting with Joe. Then let her sit down in a town hall with Jane and talk about how they both made it through on a whole lot less than the $250K that Michelle says she and Barack couldn't.

cb4029 Wrote:...............Lieberman, but being the puppet on the string that he is, he can't make his own decisions. Picking a women just to pick a women. SMH


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26501863/

I hear he wanted Hillary Clinton, but he didn't want to be accused of picking a Democrat just to pick a Democrat.

uhmump95 Wrote:

GrayBeard Wrote:

uhmump95 Wrote:I understand that he added Palin to pull the women vote. My only question is, couldn't he have found a better woman for the nomination?

What don't you like about her?

I am sorry but being a mayor and 2 year Governor of Alaska just doesn't do it 4 me.

If he wanted a woman, why didn't he pick Kay Bailey Hutchison?

We'll Obama has been a U.S. Senator for 1 year and campaigned for president for the rest of the time that doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies. What if something happens to Biden? Obama is just a heart beat away from having to be president for real. If the Democrats wanted a seasoned leader why didn't Biden win the nomination?

THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:

uhmump95 Wrote:

GrayBeard Wrote:

uhmump95 Wrote:I understand that he added Palin to pull the women vote. My only question is, couldn't he have found a better woman for the nomination?

What don't you like about her?

I am sorry but being a mayor and 2 year Governor of Alaska just doesn't do it 4 me.

If he wanted a woman, why didn't he pick Kay Bailey Hutchison?

We'll Obama has been a U.S. Senator for 1 year and campaigned for president for the rest of the time that doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies. What if something happens to Biden? Obama is just a heart beat away from having to be president for real. If the Democrats wanted a seasoned leader why didn't Biden win the nomination?

Has obama ever been responsible for anything in his life other than his family and his ego? I will take a few years of mayors experience and governor experience over a guy who voted "present" 200 times or so.

TomorrowHerd Wrote:Has obama ever been responsible for anything in his life other than his family and his ego?

Let's leave family out of this. Because your VP obviously has not been fulfilling her responsibilities with her own family. I am trying to have a real debate and you are taking cheap shots.

TomorrowHerd Wrote:I will take a few years of mayors experience and governor experience over a guy who voted "present" 200 times or so.

Both would be satisfactory if they were over a significant populace. Being the mayor of a small town and a 2 year governor of a small state still seem kind of weak.

About Obama voting "present", is that the most by a senator during his term in Congress?

Quote:I liked Palin because energy is looking like the republicans' best issue, and she is their most knowledgeable spokesperson on it.

Is this the trust or are you just blowing political BS? What makes her the most knowledgeable spokeperson for this? Given the makeup of the Republican leadership, that statement is very hard to believe.

Quote:Give her a forum where she can explain energy to Joe and Jane Average American in terms they can understand. Then let her go hunting with Joe. Then let her sit down in a town hall with Jane and talk about how they both made it through on a whole lot less than the $250K that Michelle says she and Barack couldn't.

Now I know you are more intelligent then to think that 250K is Chicago, IL is the same as 250K in Alaska.

uhmump95 Wrote:

Quote:I liked Palin because energy is looking like the republicans' best issue, and she is their most knowledgeable spokesperson on it.

Is this the trust or are you just blowing political BS? What makes her the most knowledgeable spokeperson for this? Given the makeup of the Republican leadership, that statement is very hard to believe.

Quote:Give her a forum where she can explain energy to Joe and Jane Average American in terms they can understand. Then let her go hunting with Joe. Then let her sit down in a town hall with Jane and talk about how they both made it through on a whole lot less than the $250K that Michelle says she and Barack couldn't.

Now I know you are more intelligent then to think that 250K is Chicago, IL is the same as 250K in Alaska.

Not BS on the first point. Given the importance of energy to Alaska, I'm pretty confident that she has spent more time on energy issues than anybody else on either ticket. Texas is a big energy state, but she's definitely spent more time on energy than Hutchinson or Cornyn or Governor Goodhair. Energy is a major policy issue, both parties have supposedly had their best minds working on it, and so far Paris Hilton has a better plan than either the donkeys or the elephants.

Per CNN Money, a salary of $250,000 in Chicago is comparable to $283,834.08 in Anchorage. So $250K in Anchorage is less than $250K in Chicago. Probably not the answer you were anticipating. Don't know if the link works but you can try it.

http://cgi.money.cnn.com/tools/costofliv...K&x=30&y=9

uhmump95 Wrote:

TomorrowHerd Wrote:Has obama ever been responsible for anything in his life other than his family and his ego?

Let's leave family out of this. Because your VP obviously has not been fulfilling her responsibilities with her own family. I am trying to have a real debate and you are taking cheap shots.

TomorrowHerd Wrote:I will take a few years of mayors experience and governor experience over a guy who voted "present" 200 times or so.

Both would be satisfactory if they were over a significant populace. Being the mayor of a small town and a 2 year governor of a small state still seem kind of weak.

About Obama voting "present", is that the most by a senator during his term in Congress?

I think he was leaving the family out of it. The question was about everything else. I think it's a valid question on that basis.

My take on the experience issue is that Palin is light on experience to be VP and Barack is light on experience to be president. Obviously, we're going to put someone light on experience into one slot or the other. Would you rather it be the top or bottom of the ticket? And I can see arguments both ways on that. It's silly for republicans to pretend that Palin has all the requisite experience and Barack does not, just as it's silly for democrats to pretend that Barack has all the requisite experience and Palin does not. There's going to be some serious OJT for either one, and both sides would be better off to just admit it and move on. Who really thinks that we're going to change the way business is done in Washington (and it needs changing) without bringing in people who are short of Washingon experience?

In the end, I think the character of the individual is a lot more important than experience. I do think experience as a governor, even of a small state, is more relevant than experience as a senator or congressman. I would have said that if you asked me a month ago, or six months ago, or six years ago. The American people seem to feel that way as a whole, since we've put a lot more governors than senators into the white house in recent memory. I would feel the same way on that issue if governor Richardson (from a relatively small state) were the democrat VP candidate and senator Hutchinson (from the second-largest) were the republican VP candidate. Richardson may be a bad example, as he clearly has a lot of other relevant experience, but he was the only one I could think of on short notice, and I'd feel the same way even if he didn't have the Clinton administration experience.

I actually think the "present" votes were in Illinois. I don't think that same procedure is available in the Senate, or if it is I don't think it has the same implications. I believe I've read that it indeed is the most, by a wide margin, during his time in the Illinois legislature.