Terpy Wrote:Also it is clearly revisionist history to say that the BCS has screwed anything up.

Do you remember what college football was like pre-BCS?

ok, any non playoff system screws up college football. that better terpy? BCS by any name is a stupid way to determine a champion-as such the NCAA does not have national champions in Div 1A football

Rebel Wrote:There are probably 4 teams in the SEC and Big-12 that would wax Ball State's ass right now.

Probably, but who knows?

Oklahoma waxed Boise St.'s ass right? Pitt waxed Utah's ass right?

You never know until the game is played. There could be 4 undefeated teams at the end of bowl season. Only one of those teams would have had a chance at a "National Championship".

Are you afraid to give Ball St. a chance?

Ball State isn't Boise or Utah.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/teams/sche...eamId=2050

Rebel Wrote:Ball State isn't Boise or Utah.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/teams/sche...eamId=2050

But how do you know? They've beat every team they've played.

If USC, Ohio St., Alabama, etc. were to win every game by 1 point, they'd be national champions. But if Ball St. were to do the same (or even win every game by at least a TD), they wouldn't have a chance.

Hell, Baylor, Iowa St, Duke, UConn, Syracuse, Indiana, Northwestern, Washington St., Vanderbilt, Miss. St., would get a shot if they did that. But not Ball St., Boise St., Utah, TCU, BYU, . . .

Boise State and Utah are closer to a shot at the NC than Ball State. Sorry, the three teams just aren't of the same caliber.

Utah is legit:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=254

It can't be a situation where people say, "they did everything asked of them", because they really didn't. If that were the case, a team, like Ball State, could just schedule a bunch of weak teams, go undefeated, and then get into the title game over a one-loss Florida. ....even though the Gators would destroy them. I think Hawaii showed what an undefeated season means in their last bowl. ...just a reminder, they lost 41-10 to UGA. It's not up to the NCAA to strengthen your schedule. It's up to the team. Florida State did it when they were independent.

Rebel Wrote:Sorry, the three teams just aren't of the same caliber.

If that were the case, a team, like Ball State, could just schedule a bunch of weak teams, go undefeated, and then get into the title game over a one-loss Florida. ....even though the Gators would destroy them.

It's not up to the NCAA to strengthen your schedule. It's up to the team.

How do you know they're not of the same caliber? There's no way to tell.

I'm not asking them to be included in the "title game". I want them to have a chance to be included in the game. They have no chance now.

Some argue that a team like that has to prove that they're good over time. String together a few 1 loss or 0 loss seasons, and they'll have a chance. But I'll argue that Baylor, Washington St., etc. only have to put together 1 season like that and they'll have a chance. By using your own "A sportswriter told me that FL would beat any MAC team" logic applied to Ball St., you can't tell me that Iowa St. and Duke are perennially better than TCU, BYU, Utah, etc. But these teams have an open door to the "championship". All the rest have to struggle to climb up to the attic window, knowing that its most likely locked.

You can't know if these teams are the best or overrated if they aren't given a chance. 3 teams have had a chance to prove themselves against the "best" in a BCS bowl. The "untouchables" are 2-1 in those games.

Rebel Wrote:Boise State and Utah are closer to a shot at the NC than Ball State. Sorry, the three teams just aren't of the same caliber.

Utah is legit:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=254

It can't be a situation where people say, "they did everything asked of them", because they really didn't. If that were the case, a team, like Ball State, could just schedule a bunch of weak teams, go undefeated, and then get into the title game over a one-loss Florida. ....even though the Gators would destroy them. I think Hawaii showed what an undefeated season means in their last bowl. ...just a reminder, they lost 41-10 to UGA. It's not up to the NCAA to strengthen your schedule. It's up to the team. Florida State did it when they were independent.

Being an independent makes it much easier to schedule than being in a conference. Ball St. had much of their schedule set by being in the MAC. Plus who is going to want to play @ Ball St. They don't have the money or the facilities to get the Florida's, Alabama's, Texas', etc. to play there. I agree that if there is going to be a playoff every Div.-I conference should get an invite.

blah Wrote:I agree that if there is going to be a playoff every Div.-I conference should get an invite.

even the sun belt?

Yes, even the Sun Belt that has been rated higher than the MAC in recent years. The conference that is getting better annually. Every conference should be represented.

Also, the Sun Belt has a team that Maryland lost to this season.

Ball State won't play Boise State on the Smurf Turf. You honestly think they would have the balls to play the Gators, Bama, UT, or OU on ANY turf?

One site saying Petersen is heading southeast to Miss. St.

http://spartyandfriends.com/2008/12/05/b...ssippi-st/

Raider_ATO Wrote:One site saying Petersen is heading southeast to Miss. St.

http://spartyandfriends.com/2008/12/05/b...ssippi-st/

Cue Terpy in 3.......2........1.......

Raider_ATO Wrote:Yes, even the Sun Belt that has been rated higher than the MAC in recent years. The conference that is getting better annually. Every conference should be represented.

Also, the Sun Belt has a team that Maryland lost to this season.

Why do you talk as if Maryland is good?

Rebel Wrote:

Raider_ATO Wrote:One site saying Petersen is heading southeast to Miss. St.

http://spartyandfriends.com/2008/12/05/b...ssippi-st/

Cue Terpy in 3.......2........1.......

Hed be an idiot to take that job. expectations are way too high at Mississippi State, somebody has to be the basement dweller in the SEC Miss State is in denial. They should have begged Croom to stay.

I think you have me read wrong, i dont care who they hire. I just think the lack of black coaches in college football is a joke but nobody should be forced to hire anyone except for who they want to hire...

That said a Rooney rule for college football wouldnt be a bad idea.

What is the downside of forcing people to atleast interview minorities?

how would you like to be interviewed, knowing you will not be hired, just to fill a legal requirment-for any job? that would be demeaning

Laettners Legacy Wrote:how would you like to be interviewed, knowing you will not be hired, just to fill a legal requirment-for any job? that would be demeaning

All black people have to do is prove themselves at the lower level.......like white guys do. Tony Dungy could write his own ticket in the SEC. .....or any other conference for that matter.

BTW Terpy, Turner Gill will be an SEC coach one year.....that is, if the Big-12 or Nebaska doesn't snag him first.

Rebel Wrote:BTW Terpy, Turner Gill will be an SEC coach one year.....that is, if the Big-12 or Nebaska doesn't snag him first.

Only if he wants to get fired ASAP.

The SEC needs to be blackballed seriously.

And given his pedigree a Big 10 or Big 12 job would be much more likely anyhow.

Terpy Wrote:The SEC needs to be blackballed seriously.

Why the **** should the SEC be blackballed "seriously"? Because of the lack of black coaches? I don't know if you know this or not, but there isn't a huge amount of successful black coaches in the country right now. What, we're supposed to throw 1-3 million dollars at a guy just because he's black?


.....and again, you Terps first.

Rebel Wrote:

Terpy Wrote:The SEC needs to be blackballed seriously.

Why the **** should the SEC be blackballed "seriously"? Because of the lack of black coaches? I don't know if you know this or not, but there isn't a huge amount of successful black coaches in the country right now. What, we're supposed to throw 1-3 million dollars at a guy just because he's black?


.....and again, you Terps first.

no because they fire all their coaches every ******* year if I was a coach black or white there is no way I would go there. You seriously need to work on your reading comprehension skills.