From: The Rocky Mountain News 12-1-08 in a Bailout article, no less ! !
The article: http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/rocky...but_h.html

The ad post:
Have you heard about the two day full page add in the Chicago Tribune putting more heat on Obama to reveal his true identity?

I just found out something else this morning.
Factcheck.org is an extension of the organization that Obama served on the same board with the terrorist William Ayers.

Barry and the DNC are clearly fighting hard to keep from producing anything about Barry's past.
They are deliberately trying to deceive the American people.
Regardless of party affiliation people should demand Barry provide proof.

The ad:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/acro...669993.pdf

This is also the Tribune's response:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/polit...4041.story

Quote:Here are the allegations raised in Schulz's ad, and some relevant facts:

•The birth form released by Obama was "an unsigned, forged and thoroughly discredited" live birth form, Schulz says.

Last summer, Obama's campaign presented a digital copy of his certificate of live birth. After critics questioned its authenticity, staff at FactCheck.org, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, said they had seen, held and examined the actual birth certificate.

•"Hawaiian officials will not confirm" that Obama was born in their state, Schulz says.

Initially, Hawaiian officials said that privacy laws prevented them from releasing a copy or confirming that Obama's copy was authentic. But in late October as questions persisted, Hawaii's health director and head of vital statistics reviewed Obama's birth certificate in the department's vault and vouched for its authenticity.

•Schulz says that legal affidavits state Obama was born in Kenya.

The affidavits that Schulz refers to are filings by the Obama critics themselves in the court cases challenging Obama's citizenship.

•Obama's paternal grandmother is recorded on tape saying she attended Obama's birth in Kenya, Schulz says.

The group's Web site posted what it says is a transcript of a long-distance phone conversation in Swahili and English from late October between a questioner in the United States and Sarah Hussein Obama, in her Kenyan home. The translator said he was one of two interpreters conducting the interview in a crowded hut during a celebration, over a speaker phone that dropped the call three times. A copy of the recording was not provided by Schulz.

• Schulz says that "U.S. law in effect in 1961 [the year of Obama's birth] denied citizenship to any child born in Kenya if the father was Kenyan and the mother was not yet 19 years of age."

If a child is born in the United States—as Hawaiian officials state that Obama was—that child is a U.S. citizen regardless of his or her parents' nationalities. If born to an American parent outside the U.S., the law at the time would require the U.S. citizen parent to be at least 19, which Obama's mother was not. The provisions of this law were subsequently loosened and made retroactive for government employees serving abroad and their families. It appears that this would not apply to Obama's mother. The matter would seem to be academic: Hawaiian officials vouch for Obama's birth certificate.

•Schulz says that in 1965, Obama's mother relinquished whatever Kenyan or U.S. citizenship she and Obama had by marrying an Indonesian and becoming a naturalized Indonesian citizen.

U.S. law lists the specific acts and formal procedures necessary to relinquish U.S. nationality. The statute requires the acts be performed voluntarily and with the intention of relinquishing one's nationality. In many instances, one must be 18 to renounce one's citizenship. Obama moved to Indonesia in 1968 and moved back to Hawaii while still in grade school. There is no indication that Obama renounced his U.S. citizenship.

niuhuskie84 Wrote:This is also the Tribune's response:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/polit...4041.story

Thanks for the link. The comments that follow the "rest of the story" are very interesting. It does not appear to be settled yet. :muttering:

You know this isn't Katherine Harris striking 55,000 voter registrations for having a last name the same as a convict. The more the ultra right believes in the fairy tale the dumber it makes them look. Play on Macbeth play on.

I sincerely hope that this board represents only the most maniacal and stupid segment of society. If it's an accurate representation of the bulk of America, then we're ******. I've not ever seen a supposedly neutral political board so satured with mindless partisan drones.

Who ever said this board is neutral?

Bourgeois_Rage Wrote:Who ever said this board is neutral?

It's labeled a political discussion board, not a neocon masturbation exercise.

That's what I get for observing a label.

This is WORSE than the 9/11 truther stuff. What a bunch of sore losers.

Artifice Wrote:I sincerely hope that this board represents only the most maniacal and stupid segment of society. If it's an accurate representation of the bulk of America, then we're ******. I've not ever seen a supposedly neutral political board so satured with mindless partisan drones.

Well with you here and Posting so Properly, now it does Represent just that.

Thank you for letting us know your Stripes, that was mighty swell of you Wally, said the Bever.

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Artifice Wrote:It's labeled a political discussion board, not a neocon masturbation exercise.

I'm just pointing out that there is not implied neutrality. This is a place to everyone with an opinion.

Quote:That's what I get for observing a label.

Yeah, that's what you get when you throw around strawmen about this being a neutral place. A question asking you to back up that claim.

Look I think this Obama is not a US citizen stuff to be raving mad, but that's not going to stop people from carrying on about it.

Well, I'll tell you dudes... if this is over... let it be OVER . I just don't know for certain. One can dream that it is and I for one hope it is ... BUT WAIT ... IS IT?

Until something else blows up on the subject... I'm finished with it.

Have a good one ! !