Guys I'm hearing the same thing. It's all a smokescreen. The BE is simply going to invite the entire SEC to form the first super-mega conference.

(11-20-2010 11:43 PM)Cromie Wrote:  they did but those are not the only thing that can be taken from their comments.

such as the want to have a championship game without 12 if possible.

Did a Big East official actually say this? I know there have been rumors and speculation that maybe the Big East would partner with the Big IIX to petition for a change in the NCAA rule. But those rumors apparently were oblivious to the fact that Texas and Oklahoma's stance has been that they don't want a championship game in their league.

Quote:there are more things that one can think of but the truth is My op could have cleared up some things and to some they have to other just another piece of speculations.

It really does not matter anyway in an while we will all know what the BE is going to do.

As someone who has leaked "insider" information before, there are ways one can leak it without being as generic as you have been.

While you may indeed have reputable information you were probably better off not posting anything than posting what you have.

Cheers,
Neil

In the greatest move ever, the BE will use the TCU smoke screen to actually secure Penn State, Notre Dame and Gryffindor (Quidditch only)

(11-21-2010 12:08 AM)omnicarrier Wrote:  

(11-20-2010 11:43 PM)Cromie Wrote:  they did but those are not the only thing that can be taken from their comments.

such as the want to have a championship game without 12 if possible.

Did a Big East official actually say this? I know there have been rumors and speculation that maybe the Big East would partner with the Big IIX to petition for a change in the NCAA rule. But those rumors apparently were oblivious to the fact that Texas and Oklahoma's stance has been that they don't want a championship game in their league.

After the last BE meeting on the BE site the statement was reliesed the the BE will have 10 in 2012 and 12 in 2014

and During the Half time of the RU USF game the BE Comish was asked about BE going to 10 and he said this was not set in stone they might go to 12

Quote:there are more things that one can think of but the truth is My op could have cleared up some things and to some they have to other just another piece of speculations.

It really does not matter anyway in an while we will all know what the BE is going to do.

As someone who has leaked "insider" information before, there are ways one can leak it without being as generic as you have been.

While you may indeed have reputable information you were probably better off not posting anything than posting what you have.

You can take it how ever you want But there are those who understood my post and know exactly what i meant. so it was not useless.

Dont expect the BE to just lie down and pick up just anyone the BE is a BCS conference and can do some good things that can surprise you.

The BE is not the MWC and pick up just anyone.

And yes i have to say some stuff i posed before was wrong as this kinduf changes somethings around.
I am not claiming to be right on anything what i say so take it for what you want. we will all know the end result soon enough. and then i still may be wrong.

Cheers,
Neil

I mean really, all this insider crap just come down the pipe for you, and yet on 11/16 you posted this thread talking about the very teams we have been talking about all along as your inside info, in addition maybe KU and Kstate as possibilties....
http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=463689
Try again...next time do some homework on your own prior posts before hand.

(11-20-2010 08:55 PM)Cromie Wrote:  

(11-20-2010 08:49 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  Teaser posts are cruel. Just spill the beans and save us suffering masses.

I would think that the big surprise would be to have Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Mizzu join for all sports.

That would make the BEN 20-team model look really, really good. It wold also give you a championship game in football.

OR the BE 8 football schools could join 8 of the ACC schools for the first "Super Conference".

If the additions are ECU, Temple, Villanova, UCF, TCU or Houston I would not be surprised at all.

BE looking to add team not joining any other conference

K and Kst not going to happen

and TCU can just be a smokescreen thats all im going to say BE will be ok

again 68%-74%

ND willing to give the BE FB 6 games and in return they get guarantee $13M plus keeping all their NBC contract that would give them $22M similar to all the B10 and Texas would made or the deal the B12-2 gave to Texas. So BE FB get 3 ND games (2 @ neutral sites) plus another FB member, let hope they are not Nova, would that be enough to upgrade the BE FB contract to the level of other BCS conferences’ contract? 16/ BEFB + Nova + ND that the hope of all BB schools, but it look more like 16/ 8+1+ND, the “1” could be Temple or UCF for football-only. Everything is done to keep this hybrid going.

Notre Dame doesn't give a **** about more money, they want to keep their unique independence. ND is off the table.

(11-21-2010 12:21 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  I mean really, all this insider crap just come down the pipe for you, and yet on 11/16 you posted this thread talking about the very teams we have been talking about all along as your inside info, in addition maybe KU and Kstate as possibilties....
http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=463689
Try again...next time do some homework on your own prior posts before hand.

they could be possibilities but i also said would be extremely unlikely and would kill the BE

I am not here to pick a fight or anything. The whole purpose of this post is not to leek anything but to say expect better from the BE.

Honestly im not sure how things are going to end up i know possible situations that things might go. But to think the BE is laying down and settling for less is untrue.

The current mind set of the BE is to do what it will take to keep All Current Members, so if this 14 -16 super conference comes up then the BE teams will not want to leave.

what is the best path i do not know. Will they accomplish what they want i do not know. and im not claiming to.

If what I heard comes true, a whole lot of you will be angry and confused.

uakronkid, what was it you heard?

if a lot of us will be angry and confused... that means Villanova said yes

(11-20-2010 11:26 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(11-20-2010 11:04 PM)Cromie Wrote:  

(11-20-2010 10:59 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(11-20-2010 10:31 PM)Cromie Wrote:  

(11-20-2010 10:23 PM)BullsFanatic Wrote:  :iagree:

Predicting that things will be "unexpected" is hardly a prediction at all.

This thread is useless.

I would not say that


Alot of the stuff about expansion that is out is placed out on pure speculation and fans.Thus the smoke screen

Pay attention to what the BE officials have said of the past year and what has been noted about the meetings the BE has had maybe you would better understand

What the league has said the last year is that there is no one who is available that can help us. And lately they have been saying that they can expand with up to 2 teams. They have mentioned Maryland and BC, which most folks have dismissed as a pipe dream.

not true

So your saying that the league did not say that there is no one who is available who can help us? Are you saying that one of the BE folks didnt mention Maryland or BC a few months ago, which caused the Maryland AD to respond that Maryland will not be going to the BE or anywhere else? If you are saying these things are not true, I must warn you that they have been well documented with the articles right here on the BE board.

Actually the both of you could right about this here. The NY Post or Washington Post quoted BE sources anonymously etc. Which caused the Maryland AD and BC AD to write a press release on it.

(11-21-2010 01:52 AM)BullsFanatic Wrote:  uakronkid, what was it you heard?

I took him as being a smartass more than anything. I could be wrong though.

(11-21-2010 02:11 AM)animus Wrote:  

(11-21-2010 01:52 AM)BullsFanatic Wrote:  uakronkid, what was it you heard?

I took him as being a smartass more than anything. I could be wrong though.

Good point. It's hard to pick up sarcasm on here when it is mixed with the serious posts

(11-20-2010 08:54 PM)animus Wrote:  Really the only surprises I could see are; western expansion or a raid of the ACC/PSU coming to the Big East. A split could also potentially be a surprise.

A truly eastern conference would definitely shock the entire world.

(11-21-2010 02:15 AM)brista21 Wrote:  

(11-20-2010 08:54 PM)animus Wrote:  Really the only surprises I could see are; western expansion or a raid of the ACC/PSU coming to the Big East. A split could also potentially be a surprise.

A truly eastern conference would definitely shock the entire world.

The best chances of that is Pitt, WVU, Rutgers, and Syracuse joining the ACC.

(11-21-2010 12:13 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  In the greatest move ever, the BE will use the TCU smoke screen to actually secure Penn State, Notre Dame and Gryffindor (Quidditch only)

Pitt won't be pleased about the Gryffindor addition. They have a pretty good Quidditch team.

(11-21-2010 12:32 AM)Cromie Wrote:  Honestly im not sure how things are going to end up i know possible situations that things might go. But to think the BE is laying down and settling for less is untrue.

The current mind set of the BE is to do what it will take to keep All Current Members, so if this 14 -16 super conference comes up then the BE teams will not want to leave.

what is the best path i do not know. Will they accomplish what they want i do not know. and im not claiming to.

The only way to prevent anyone from leaving is to get A LOT more money from tv contracts - we're talking AT LEAST 4X more what BE FB is making now. I honestly don't see any *realistic* additions that would accomoplish that.

(11-21-2010 04:54 AM)Hoquista Wrote:  

(11-21-2010 12:32 AM)Cromie Wrote:  Honestly im not sure how things are going to end up i know possible situations that things might go. But to think the BE is laying down and settling for less is untrue.

The current mind set of the BE is to do what it will take to keep All Current Members, so if this 14 -16 super conference comes up then the BE teams will not want to leave.

what is the best path i do not know. Will they accomplish what they want i do not know. and im not claiming to.

The only way to prevent anyone from leaving is to get A LOT more money from tv contracts - we're talking AT LEAST 4X more what BE FB is making now. I honestly don't see any *realistic* additions that would accomoplish that.

I agree. There aren't any teams outside of PSU, BC, and Notre Dame that could prevent the Big East from being raided again including TCU. With that said, its very unlikely that the ACC expands and I doubt the Big 10 expands further. The only conference I could see expanding is the Big XII. But they appear to be happy at 10 teams. So I think we're going to see this current lineup plus a couple of schools. We have plenty of time to have due diligence on what we need and who we need. That's why I prefer to expand in stages; from 8 to 9, 9 to 10 and then 10-12 over a 10 or so year period. There isn't a need to rush to 12 and I don't think the Big East, or split conference, will rush to 12.

(11-21-2010 12:20 AM)Cromie Wrote:  After the last BE meeting on the BE site the statement was reliesed the the BE will have 10 in 2012 and 12 in 2014

and During the Half time of the RU USF game the BE Comish was asked about BE going to 10 and he said this was not set in stone they might go to 12

Wait a minute. When did the BE website say they would be going to 12 FB teams in 2014?

I'm aware that all options are on the table, but I did not see an actual release stating that the BE planned to have 12 FB teams in 2014. Big difference.

Did I totally miss this?