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Can we now get out of Afghanistan and Iraq?
 
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One thing is for sure GITMO and waterboarding worked very well over the years. The intel we generated was a big deal.
 
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I saw this on FB from a friend of mine from my Army days. Both funny and accurate.


Awesome Sh!t My First Sergeant Said:
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(05-02-2011 08:05 AM)subflea Wrote:  
(05-02-2011 07:20 AM)BearcatDave Wrote:  Buried at sea?
Welcome conspiracy theorists

Burial at sea was the best decision. You put him in the ground and his grave becomes a place for terrorists to worship him.

I consider burial at sea, pollution! Who wants to eat a fish that may have munched on Bin Laden!
 
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Dead on.

I'm sure a similar sentiment was uniformly conveyed today by Gunnies - the USMC's compassionate communicators.
 
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(05-02-2011 11:27 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I'm not getting the whole thing of people chanting USA like we just won Olympic gold in hockey. One guy in a line of many waiting to fill his shoes. Good news to be sure. But people did their jobs here. Nothing more. More work to be done today.

Me neither. Although it's very nice to see the victims' families get their justice.

It's just the beginning. If we get lazy and sleep on terrorism now, 911 will repeat itself.
 
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(05-02-2011 11:53 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  One thing is for sure GITMO and waterboarding worked very well over the years. The intel we generated was a big deal.

Link?

My buddy's brother died in the South Tower. 26 years old with a fiancee. Would be 35 now. Don't know why this brings it all back more than the anniversary every year, but it does to me.
 
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On WLW today, Willie was talking with a guest. The guest said that they found OBL by interviewing a Gitmo detainee. They found out from this guy who OBL's most trusted courier was. They proceeded to follow this guy all over the world and found OBL.
 
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(05-02-2011 01:29 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  
(05-02-2011 11:27 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I'm not getting the whole thing of people chanting USA like we just won Olympic gold in hockey. One guy in a line of many waiting to fill his shoes. Good news to be sure. But people did their jobs here. Nothing more. More work to be done today.

Me neither. Although it's very nice to see the victims' families get their justice.

It's just the beginning. If we get lazy and sleep on terrorism now, 911 will repeat itself.

I agree with both of you. It is great that we finally hunted him down and delivered justice.

But there are other leaders out there and the same vile ideology is still alive and well.
 
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Not a big deal that they finally found and killed bin Laden after nearly a decade? Really?
 
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(05-02-2011 01:42 PM)QSECOFR Wrote:  On WLW today, Willie was talking with a guest. The guest said that they found OBL by interviewing a Gitmo detainee. They found out from this guy who OBL's most trusted courier was. They proceeded to follow this guy all over the world and found OBL.

First strands on bin Laden gathered in CIA prison

(AP) – 3 hours ago
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Officials say CIA interrogators in secret overseas prisons developed the first strands of information that ultimately led to the killing of Osama bin Laden.

Current and former U.S. officials say that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, provided the nom de guerre of one of bin Laden's most trusted aides. The CIA got similar information from Mohammed's successor, Abu Faraj al-Libi. Both were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Poland and Romania.

The news is sure to reignite debate over whether the now-closed interrogation and detention program was successful. Former president George W. Bush authorized the CIA to use the harshest interrogation tactics in U.S. history. President Barack Obama closed the prison system.

Former US president George W. Bush claimed in his memoirs published last year that using the interrogation technique - which simulates drowning - helped prevent planned attacks on Heathrow and London's Canary Wharf business district.

He also told the London Times newspaper in November that it was "damn right" that he had authorised use of the method on Sheikh Mohammed.
 
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(05-02-2011 02:07 PM)levydl Wrote:  Not a big deal that they finally found and killed bin Laden after nearly a decade? Really?

It is awesome that we got him, but mostly symbolically. It has been ten years. Most of the attacks around the world since have been cells in Europe, Russia and Spain, not even remotely linked to OBL.

OBL was one of many and we already nabbed the guys who actually hashed out and executed the plot. OBL had really been relegated to hunted prey and figurehead status.

Don't get me wrong I am really glad we got him, no one who attacks us should ever be allowed to escape justice. But this is about as significant as tracking down a major drug dealer who was already laying low to avoid being caught. Other cockroaches had already stepped up to fill the void.
 
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(05-02-2011 02:51 PM)Eastside_J Wrote:  
(05-02-2011 02:07 PM)levydl Wrote:  Not a big deal that they finally found and killed bin Laden after nearly a decade? Really?

It is awesome that we got him, but mostly symbolically. It has been ten years. Most of the attacks around the world since have been cells in Europe, Russia and Spain, not even remotely linked to OBL.

OBL was one of many and we already nabbed the guys who actually hashed out and executed the plot. OBL had really been relegated to hunted prey and figurehead status.

Don't get me wrong I am really glad we got him, no one who attacks us should ever be allowed to escape justice. But this is about as significant as tracking down a major drug dealer who was already laying low to avoid being caught. Other cockroaches had already stepped up to fill the void.

IMHO, the fact that we finally found and took out OBL is not the main point, but the total lack of help from Pakistan, while receiving massive amounts of "assistance" from the US, just shows that our money and trust are really rather worthless in that part of the world.

It is time to take back all military and financial benefits that we give to the world, and make them earn it.

Might not be a bad idea to withdraw from the UN also.
 
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Bin Laden hid in Pakistan city laden with military

Published - May 02 2011 02:32PM EST

By NAHAL TOOSI and ZARAR KHAN - Associated Press

ABBOTTABAD, Pakistan — The death of Osama bin Laden in a fortress-like compound on the outskirts of a Pakistani city that is home to three army regiments and thousands of soldiers raises questions over whether Pakistani security forces knew the whereabouts of the world's most wanted man.

The al-Qaida chief was living in a house in Abbottabad that a U.S. administration official said was "custom built to hide someone of significance." The city around 60 miles from the capital Islamabad is a far cry from the remote mountain caves along the Pakistan-Afghanistan tribal border where most intelligence assessments had put bin Laden in recent years.

Critics have long accused elements of Pakistan's security establishment of protecting bin Laden, though Islamabad has always denied this. Ties between the United States and Pakistan have hit a low point in recent months over the future of Afghanistan, and any hint of possible Pakistani collusion with bin Laden could hit them hard even amid the jubilation of getting American's No. 1 enemy.

That bin Laden could be in Abbottabad unknown to authorities "is a bit amazing" says Hamid Gul, a former Pakistani intelligence chief fiercely critical of America's presence in the region. Aside from the military "there is the local police, the Intelligence Bureau, Military Intelligence, the ISI, they all had a presence there."

Pakistani security forces blocked access to the compound Monday, but Associated Press reporters saw the wreckage of a helicopter that crashed during the operation. Local residents described the sounds of bullets, the clatter of chopper blades and two large explosions as the raid went down.

The compound was around one kilometer (half a mile) away from the Kakul Military Academy, an army-run institution for top officers and one of several military installations in the bustling, hill-ringed town of around 400,000 people.

An American administration official said the compound was built in 2005 at the end of a narrow dirt road with "extraordinary" security measures. He said it had 12 to 18-feet walls topped with barbed wire with two security gates and no telephone or Internet service connected to it.

A video aired by ABC News that purported to show the inside of bin Laden's compound included footage of disheveled bedrooms with floors stained with large pools of blood and littered with clothes and paper. It also showed a dirt road outside the compound with large white walls on one side and a green agricultural field on the other.

Pakistan's government and army are very sensitive to concerns that they are working under the orders of America and allowing U.S. forces to operate here. Some critics assailed Pakistan for allowing the operation, while at least one Islamist party staged a protest against the killing of a man idolized by militants inside of Pakistan.

"Down with America! Down with Obama!" shouted more than 100 members of a breakaway faction of the Jamiat Ulema Islam party in the southwestern city of Quetta. "Jihad, jihad the only treatment for America!"

The Pakistani Taliban, an al-Qaida allied group behind scores of bombings in Pakistan and the failed bombing in New York's Times Square, vowed revenge.

"Let me make it very clear that we will avenge the martyrdom of Osama bin Laden, and we will do it by carrying out attacks in Pakistan and America," Taliban spokesman Ahsanullah Ahsan told The Associated Press by phone. "We will teach them an exemplary lesson."

The U.S. closed its embassy in Islamabad and its consulates in the cities of Lahore, Karachi and Peshawar on Monday for fear of unrest.

Pakistan's former President Pervez Musharraf, who is eyeing a political comeback, said the "killing was the success of all peace loving people of the world." But he also said the Americans should not have been allowed to operate independently in the country.

One Pakistani official said the choppers took off from a Pakistani air base, suggesting some cooperation in the raid. President Barack Obama said Pakistan had provided some information leading to the raid, did not thank the country in his statement on bin Laden's death.

Pakistan's intelligence agency and the CIA have cooperated in joint raids before against al-Qaida suspects in Pakistan on several occasions since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. But U.S. and Pakistani officials indicated that this mission was too important to let anyone know more than a few minutes in advance.

Pakistan's foreign office hailed the death as a breakthrough in the international campaign against militancy, and noted al-Qaida "had declared war on Pakistan" and killed thousands of Pakistani civilians and security officers.

It stressed that the operation to kill bin Laden was an American one, and did not mention any concerns that Pakistani officials may have been protecting bin Laden in some way. Domestically, the already weak government may yet face criticism by political opponents and Islamists for allowing U.S. forces to kill bin Laden on its soil, but there were no signs of a major backlash Monday.

Pakistani officials said a son of bin Laden and three other people were killed. Other unidentified males were taken by helicopter away from the scene, while four children and two women were arrested and left in an ambulance, the official said.

A witness and a Pakistani official said bin Laden's guards opened fire from the roof of the compound in the small northwestern town of Abbottabad, and one of the choppers crashed. However U.S. officials said no Americans were hurt in the operation. The sound of at least two explosions rocked Abbottabad as the fighting raged.

It was not known how long bin Laden had been in Abbottabad, which is less than half a day's drive from the border region with Afghanistan. But Pakistani intelligence agencies are normally very sharp in sniffing out the presence of foreigners, especially in towns with a heavy military presence.

Locals said large Landcruisers and other expensive cars were seen driving into the compound, which is in a regular middle-class neighborhood of dirt covered, litter-strewn roads and small shops. Cabbage and other vegetables are planted in empty plots in the neighborhood.

Salman Riaz, a film actor, said that five months ago he and a crew tried to do some filming next to the house, but were told to stop by two men who came out.

"They told me that this is haram (forbidden in Islam)," he said.

One witness posted live updates throughout the night on his Twitter account.

Sohaib Athar, whose profile says he is an "IT consultant taking a break from the rat-race by hiding in the mountains with his laptops," apparently broke word of the event with "Helicopter hovering about Abbottabad at 1 a.m. (is a rare event)," and later: "A huge window shaking bang in Abbottabad. I hope it is not the start of something nasty."

Abbottabad resident Mohammad Haroon Rasheed said the raid happened about 1:15 a.m. local time.

"I heard a thundering sound, followed by heavy firing. Then firing suddenly stopped. Then more thundering, then a big blast," he said. "In the morning when we went out to see what happened, some helicopter wreckage was lying in an open field."

Qasim Khan, 18, who lives in a house just across the compound, said he saw two Pakistani men going in and coming out of the house often in the past several years. One of them was relatively a fat man with a beard, he said.

"I never saw anybody else with the two men, but some kids sometimes would accompany them. I never saw any foreigner," he said.

Relations between Pakistan's main intelligence agency and the CIA had been very strained in recent months. A Pakistani official has said that joint operations had been stopped as a result, and that the agency was demanding the Americans cut down on drone strikes in the border area.

The U.S. has fired hundreds of drones into the border regions since 2008, taking out senior al-Qaida leaders in a tactic seen by many in Washington as vital to keeping the militant network and allied groups living in safe havens on the back foot.

In late January, a senior Indonesian al-Qaida operative, Umar Patek, was arrested at another location in Abbottabad.

News of his arrest only broke in late March. A Pakistani intelligence official said its officers were led to the house where Patek was staying after they arrested an al-Qaida facilitator, Tahir Shahzad, who worked at the post office there.

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Associated Press Writers Kathy Gannon and Munir Ahmed and Rasool Dawar in Peshawar contributed to this report from Islamabad, Pakistan.

http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr/...tary/full/
 
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(05-02-2011 02:51 PM)Eastside_J Wrote:  It is awesome that we got him, but mostly symbolically. It has been ten years. Most of the attacks around the world since have been cells in Europe, Russia and Spain, not even remotely linked to OBL.

OBL was one of many and we already nabbed the guys who actually hashed out and executed the plot. OBL had really been relegated to hunted prey and figurehead status.

Don't get me wrong I am really glad we got him, no one who attacks us should ever be allowed to escape justice. But this is about as significant as tracking down a major drug dealer who was already laying low to avoid being caught. Other cockroaches had already stepped up to fill the void.

Of course it's the symbolism of it. Merely as significant as catching a major drug dealer? Wow. No one can fill bin Laden's role for them. No one can be the founder of AQ, the guy who was able to hurt the US. They aren't selling drugs, they're selling an ideology that OBL is probably the biggest part of.

The frat party outside the White House and the chants at the Phillies game are a little much, but I don't see how you can downplay it like that.
 
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You said in your post at the top of the page, "Not a big deal that they finally found and killed bin Laden after nearly a decade? Really?" Who in the world said no big deal? Who is downplaying it? Anyone...?

Happy we got him and he is being fed on by shrimp at the moment. On to the next one. And you can bet your ass there are already plenty to choose from.

Only disturbing thing about this story is how Pakistan's now playing Lucy and has some splainin' to do.
 
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(05-02-2011 03:37 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  You said in your post at the top of the page, "Not a big deal that they finally found and killed bin Laden after nearly a decade? Really?" Who in the world said no big deal? Who is downplaying it? Anyone...?

Happy we got him and he is being fed on by shrimp at the moment. On to the next one. And you can bet your ass there are already plenty to choose from.

Only disturbing thing about this story is how Pakistan's now playing Lucy and has some splainin' to do.

I hope the United States now plays a lot of this stuff closer to the vest... at this point I think we have learned that paying off regimes of other countries doesn't guarantee that they will help you.
 
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(05-02-2011 11:27 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I'm not getting the whole thing of people chanting USA like we just won Olympic gold in hockey. One guy in a line of many waiting to fill his shoes. Good news to be sure. But people did their jobs here. Nothing more. More work to be done today.

I do.

OBL 's attack killed a bunch of Americans, and change our way of life possibly forever. I see no problem with some good ole fashion cheering

I bet you wasn't this indifferent when saddam was captured and killed. I'd love for you to show me a post where you were.

it's a good thing and a good day even if a republican was not in office.

why do you have to piss on everything?
 
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(05-02-2011 03:37 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  You said in your post at the top of the page, "Not a big deal that they finally found and killed bin Laden after nearly a decade? Really?" Who in the world said no big deal? Who is downplaying it? Anyone...?

Happy we got him and he is being fed on by shrimp at the moment. On to the next one. And you can bet your ass there are already plenty to choose from.

Only disturbing thing about this story is how Pakistan's now playing Lucy and has some splainin' to do.

That's just what it seemed like to me with some of the comments like, just people doing their job, as significant as catching a major drug dealer, on to the next one. Seems like a bigger deal than that to me.
 
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