(06-02-2011 08:45 AM)b Wrote:  

(06-01-2011 08:09 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Brey made $1,231,643 for the 09-10 season. Doubt he made half that much last year.

we're talking salary from the school. not including shoe contracts, radio etc.

You can't just throw that stuff out, that is all part of the contract.

If you only use Mick's base salary, then his last contract was only $250k per year and his new one probably won't be much more than that. In the old one, he made $250k in base salary, $150k from radio and television, $100k from shoe and apparel deals, and $80k for public appearance fees.

(06-02-2011 09:32 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  If our hopes as completely tied to Cash's health as Mick suggests (as I suspected anyway), then I'm significanty tempering my optimism. If Cash isn't able, it's still a tourney team, but not a top 10 type team that could make a significant run.

I sure hope to see either Davis or Guyn emerge as a quality backup by season's end. Both preferably.

Couldn't agree more here BJ...but I will add that even if "all we do" is win 26 games, get ranked, and win one ncaa game again...I will be happy with this. Yeah...we have fallen THAT far over the last few years. So if we "just" repeat last year I won't complain....anything beyond this (more wins, top 10, ncaa run etc is only icing on my cake at this stage).

(06-03-2011 11:52 AM)subflea Wrote:  

(06-02-2011 08:45 AM)b Wrote:  

(06-01-2011 08:09 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Brey made $1,231,643 for the 09-10 season. Doubt he made half that much last year.

we're talking salary from the school. not including shoe contracts, radio etc.

You can't just throw that stuff out, that is all part of the contract.

If you only use Mick's base salary, then his last contract was only $250k per year and his new one probably won't be much more than that. In the old one, he made $250k in base salary, $150k from radio and television, $100k from shoe and apparel deals, and $80k for public appearance fees.

i'm not just throwing things out.



that's a little more then the 250k you are citing idnit ?

Yes you are just throwing stuff out, you said you weren't counting the radio and shoe money for Brey, but you are including it in Mick's.

This is the press release from Cronin's last contract extension:

On Wednesday, the University of Cincinnati released details of new men's basketball coach Mick Cronin's contract.

The contract runs through March 26, 2012.

A breakdown of the deal's highlights:

Base salary, to be reviewed at least annually: $250,000

Radio and television: $150,000

Public relations appearances on behalf of UC: $80,000

Shoe equipment and apparel contract payments: $100,000

Deferred compensation: $100,000 a year

Golf club membership: UC will pay regular dues on a club membership selected jointly by Cronin and UC

Incentive bonuses

20-win regular season: $10,000

Big East regular-season championship: $10,000

Big East Tournament championship: $10,000

Big East coach of the year: $5,000

National coach of the year honors: $10,000

NCAA Tournament first round: $20,000

NCAA Tournament second round: $20,000

NCAA Tournament Sweet 16: $30,000

NCAA Tournament Elite Eight: $40,000

NCAA Tournament Final Four: $60,000

National title game appearance: $100,000

National title victory: $100,000

Academic bonuses

Team GPA exceeds 2.75: $5,000

Team GPA exceeds 3.0: $10,000

Graduation rate of 75 percent based on four years from initial enrollment of current class: $10,000

Hitting academic progress rate targets: $10,000

Merit bonus

Starting in the 2006-07 academic year, and each academic year thereafter, Cronin can qualify for a merit bonus not to exceed $25,000 at the discretion of the athletic director.

(06-04-2011 10:29 AM)subflea Wrote:  Yes you are just throwing stuff out, you said you weren't counting the radio and shoe money for Brey, but you are including it in Mick's.

hold up,

I quote a source saying mick's base pay is 900,000

you quote a source saying his base pay is 250,000

we're both referring to base pay

maybe our definition of base pay is different

Your quote is including radio, tv, etc. as base pay which is the way most people do it since that is guaranteed money in a contract. That is why I am saying you can't throw that stuff out when talking about Brey's contract.

Quote:Your quote is including radio, tv, etc. as base pay which is the way most people do it since that is guaranteed money in a contract. That is why I am saying you can't throw that stuff out when talking about Brey's contract.

so why are you calling micks 250k as his base pay ? shouldn't you include the other stuff the way you want it included in mike brey's

to make it simple, what do uc pay mick? for the sake of continuity, lets called that his base pay.

Under the new contract it will be $1.25 million (base salary, radio, tv, etc.) and the last report on Brey was that he was about the same.

(06-04-2011 12:26 PM)subflea Wrote:  Under the new contract it will be $1.25 million (base salary, radio, tv, etc.) and the last report on Brey was that he was about the same.

so uc pays his radio, tv etc ?

at last report breys base was about 600k

Yes, as far as I understand it, UC pays that to him out of the money they receive from WLW, FSO, etc for the radio/tv rights. Adidas has a contract with the school, not the coaches.

(06-04-2011 12:29 PM)b Wrote:  at last report breys base was about 600k

Yes that is his coaching pay, but he also gets $450k for the adidas contract ND has and another $100k for radio and TV contracts for a total well over $1 million.

Mick had a base salary of $250k for coaching, plus the money he gets from the adidas contract and for TV and radio, which all added up to about $900k

In the end, they both make about the same under the new contract Mick was promised.

You are starting to make my head hurt.

(06-04-2011 12:36 PM)subflea Wrote:  Yes, as far as I understand it, UC pays that to him out of the money they receive from WLW, FSO, etc for the radio/tv rights. Adidas has a contract with the school, not the coaches.

I'm not so sure those are not separate contracts.

It used to be that way at UC until they signed an all sports contract with adidas. When we were with Nike, the contracts were with individual sports and coaches, but the adidas deal was with the entire athletic department.

Sub will you post that water is wet so we can watch b find something on the internet that says it isn't

There was lots of discussion that Cronin was seeking AD funding for recruiting, facilities, etc.... whats the word on that..?

Haven't heard much on that front. I remember hearing that Mick was close to raising all the private funds they needed to improve the look of the practice gym by adding graphics and such.

i've just browsed this thread, haven't read the entire thing. it seems to me that the hoop's team's success depends upon how much coach cronin makes this year. what do you guys think?

(06-05-2011 09:30 AM)Lush Wrote:  i've just browsed this thread, haven't read the entire thing. it seems to me that the hoop's team's success depends upon how much coach cronin makes this year. what do you guys think?

Well, if his salary came up so prominently in the thread titled "Keys to UC’s hoop success in 2011-12", then it must be so

(06-04-2011 07:54 PM)subflea Wrote:  Haven't heard much on that front. I remember hearing that Mick was close to raising all the private funds they needed to improve the look of the practice gym by adding graphics and such.

From a previous Koch article, he indicated that Mick had raised about half of the $75,000 for the work on the practice facility. This was back in March though so maybe they are close to their goal now.