What we need to cut down on is other schools raiding us for our best coaches. Until that happens, we'll always be a 2nd class BCS conference...

(08-07-2011 10:04 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  What we need to cut down on is other schools raiding us for our best coaches. Until that happens, we'll always be a 2nd class BCS conference...

We need to shed the hybrid image first thing!

(08-07-2011 10:17 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(08-07-2011 10:04 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  What we need to cut down on is other schools raiding us for our best coaches. Until that happens, we'll always be a 2nd class BCS conference...

We need to shed the hybrid image first thing!

We need to get big $$$ to keep the coaches. And according to TV execs, the most $$$ will be made by the partial hybrid I've been advocating for 4 years now.

Cheers,
Neil

Then we have to get rid of Depaul, Seton Hall and the scared cow (Providence)! So in essence we are talking about forming a new hybrid conference. So we know Villanova, Georgetown, St. John's are three of the basketball teams that we will keep. Here's where we will differ:

Notre Dame must play football to be included. Why? It allows Marquette to be retained as the fourth basketball program. However. if Notre Dame wants to remain independent, no problem I respect their decision, but we would be under no obligation to continue the current relationship with Notre Dame, if we form a new conference. And while it would be sweet to add Notre Dame, Boston College and Maryland for football, I would tell Notre Dame all in or all out!

Not really surprising to me. You had no top 25 teams last year. You had a bunch of mediocre teams that are moving on. Its hard to choose from that. From my point of view WV and USF make the most sense. You have new coaches all over, to even make it harder to predict.

(08-07-2011 10:20 AM)omnicarrier Wrote:  

(08-07-2011 10:17 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(08-07-2011 10:04 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  What we need to cut down on is other schools raiding us for our best coaches. Until that happens, we'll always be a 2nd class BCS conference...

We need to shed the hybrid image first thing!

We need to get big $$$ to keep the coaches. And according to TV execs, the most $$$ will be made by the partial hybrid I've been advocating for 4 years now.

Neil, I'm for whatever gets us the most money, and I'm sure TV is going to have an input. IMO they are what is driving all realignment, and they probably have the final say in who goes where, and for what reason in every one of these situations...

(08-06-2011 11:07 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I personally don't see the BE as all that wide open this year. WVU and USF are the only two with any immediate chance of breaking the top 20. I might categorize Pitt as such, but their opening schedule is downright brutal, especially with a new coach.

I see Cincy and UConn as top 50-ish, with the remainder of the league in rebuild mode.

i hope cincy gets out of the cellar fast, this year i'd like to see an acc type year with top to bottom good.
1st place team like 8-4 last 6-6.

(08-07-2011 05:41 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  

(08-06-2011 11:07 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I personally don't see the BE as all that wide open this year. WVU and USF are the only two with any immediate chance of breaking the top 20. I might categorize Pitt as such, but their opening schedule is downright brutal, especially with a new coach.

I see Cincy and UConn as top 50-ish, with the remainder of the league in rebuild mode.

i hope cincy gets out of the cellar fast, this year i'd like to see an acc type year with top to bottom good.
1st place team like 8-4 last 6-6.

we have a good class coming in this year...solid. We have a top 20 class right now in the making for 2012 (currently ranked #21 by rivals). So down the road Stook we should be really good...BJ is putting together some great recruiting classes and the kids so far have made it to campus for the most part unlike Brian Kelly's classes...which is what BJ inherited last year- we had no depth. I think last year was an abberation with new coach, new schemes, and not a lot of depth. Now...I don't see us being great this year, but better and see us getting better year after year after that so hang tight...we comin'

(08-06-2011 11:07 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I personally don't see the BE as all that wide open this year. WVU and USF are the only two with any immediate chance of breaking the top 20. I might categorize Pitt as such, but their opening schedule is downright brutal, especially with a new coach.

I see Cincy and UConn as top 50-ish, with the remainder of the league in rebuild mode.

u need to do some soul searching bj if u think uconn who has no quaterback and uc who had a disastrous year r top 50ish, lmfao. people need their heads examined uc and uconn top 50, ur prolly the only 1 in the world who believes this

Uconn has the biggest downside this year. If they slip, it could be a significant one.

(08-10-2011 12:07 PM)CuSeToWn003 Wrote:  

(08-06-2011 11:07 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I personally don't see the BE as all that wide open this year. WVU and USF are the only two with any immediate chance of breaking the top 20. I might categorize Pitt as such, but their opening schedule is downright brutal, especially with a new coach.

I see Cincy and UConn as top 50-ish, with the remainder of the league in rebuild mode.

u need to do some soul searching bj if u think uconn who has no quaterback and uc who had a disastrous year r top 50ish, lmfao. people need their heads examined uc and uconn top 50, ur prolly the only 1 in the world who believes this

last year was last year, has nothing to do with this year. Cuse sucked 2 years ago and had decent year last year. I don't know what UConn has coming back to venture any guesses, but UC I would be stunned if UC doesn't have a good year.

(08-06-2011 12:54 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  Cincinnati should be better this season and could win it if the Cats get some of the breaks they had from 2008-2009. UConn will not fall off that much, yes the offense needs work. Syracuse falls back reality, no bowl game. U of L treads water this season before busting out again in the near future. I like WVU and USF to be ranked most of the season. Pitt should be pretty good. Rutgers will bounce back a little but won't contend.

I see a lot of balance this year in the league. Not sure who the best coach is because most of the guys haven't been at their jobs long enough. The top of the league will be USF, Cincy, WVU, and Pitt but not in that order. I see those teams getting 8 wins or more and flirting with the top 25 at some point during the year.

Side note, TCU should be good but not great.

wow here we go again wit da su bashing. syracuse will come back to reality? u need to do research too my friend. ur school has decades before they'll ever be in our boat. theres like 3 be teams with more losses than wins; uc, uconn, rutgers. are bowl record is better than ALL current and future be members. if ur gonna rag on su for 5 bad years ur a moron. tcu has a few more wins than losses, wv leads su in wns by less than 10, now explain using facts how syracuse's reality is no bowl. i hate wen people try to bring other be teams down. for all who cant read: su, pitt, and wv will hit the exclusive 700 wins plus club in the net 2 years. wv and su this year(bet me), pitt in the next few years. also ur tryn to compare su and uc ur just going to make an idiot of urself. i know moderators play nice, lmfao. everyone knows u can talk bad about su without a response from me, but wen u use no facts and ur own opinion then not cool. top 50 were already there

(08-07-2011 10:33 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:   Then we have to get rid of Depaul, Seton Hall and the scared cow (Providence)! So in essence we are talking about forming a new hybrid conference. So we know Villanova, Georgetown, St. John's are three of the basketball teams that we will keep. Here's where we will differ:

Notre Dame must play football to be included. Why? It allows Marquette to be retained as the fourth basketball program. However. if Notre Dame wants to remain independent, no problem I respect their decision, but we would be under no obligation to continue the current relationship with Notre Dame, if we form a new conference. And while it would be sweet to add Notre Dame, Boston College and Maryland for football, I would tell Notre Dame all in or all out!

In that scenario, it would take the ND administration about three seconds to decide that it is out.

(08-10-2011 12:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(08-10-2011 12:07 PM)CuSeToWn003 Wrote:  

(08-06-2011 11:07 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I personally don't see the BE as all that wide open this year. WVU and USF are the only two with any immediate chance of breaking the top 20. I might categorize Pitt as such, but their opening schedule is downright brutal, especially with a new coach.

I see Cincy and UConn as top 50-ish, with the remainder of the league in rebuild mode.

u need to do some soul searching bj if u think uconn who has no quaterback and uc who had a disastrous year r top 50ish, lmfao. people need their heads examined uc and uconn top 50, ur prolly the only 1 in the world who believes this

last year was last year, has nothing to do with this year. Cuse sucked 2 years ago and had decent year last year. I don't know what UConn has coming back to venture any guesses, but UC I would be stunned if UC doesn't have a good year.

most problems u can fix in one year but not the issues they had lasr year trust me. mechanicaal problems take a good while to fix

(08-10-2011 12:24 PM)CuSeToWn003 Wrote:  

(08-06-2011 12:54 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  Cincinnati should be better this season and could win it if the Cats get some of the breaks they had from 2008-2009. UConn will not fall off that much, yes the offense needs work. Syracuse falls back reality, no bowl game. U of L treads water this season before busting out again in the near future. I like WVU and USF to be ranked most of the season. Pitt should be pretty good. Rutgers will bounce back a little but won't contend.

I see a lot of balance this year in the league. Not sure who the best coach is because most of the guys haven't been at their jobs long enough. The top of the league will be USF, Cincy, WVU, and Pitt but not in that order. I see those teams getting 8 wins or more and flirting with the top 25 at some point during the year.

Side note, TCU should be good but not great.

wow here we go again wit da su bashing. syracuse will come back to reality? u need to do research too my friend. ur school has decades before they'll ever be in our boat. theres like 3 be teams with more losses than wins; uc, uconn, rutgers. are bowl record is better than ALL current and future be members. if ur gonna rag on su for 5 bad years ur a moron. tcu has a few more wins than losses, wv leads su in wns by less than 10, now explain using facts how syracuse's reality is no bowl. i hate wen people try to bring other be teams down. for all who cant read: su, pitt, and wv will hit the exclusive 700 wins plus club in the net 2 years. wv and su this year(bet me), pitt in the next few years. also ur tryn to compare su and uc ur just going to make an idiot of urself. i know moderators play nice, lmfao. everyone knows u can talk bad about su without a response from me, but wen u use no facts and ur own opinion then not cool. top 50 were already there

Did anybody actually get through more than 2 sentences of this "analysis"/tween girl text message?

(08-10-2011 12:24 PM)CuSeToWn003 Wrote:  

(08-06-2011 12:54 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  Cincinnati should be better this season and could win it if the Cats get some of the breaks they had from 2008-2009. UConn will not fall off that much, yes the offense needs work. Syracuse falls back reality, no bowl game. U of L treads water this season before busting out again in the near future. I like WVU and USF to be ranked most of the season. Pitt should be pretty good. Rutgers will bounce back a little but won't contend.

I see a lot of balance this year in the league. Not sure who the best coach is because most of the guys haven't been at their jobs long enough. The top of the league will be USF, Cincy, WVU, and Pitt but not in that order. I see those teams getting 8 wins or more and flirting with the top 25 at some point during the year.

Side note, TCU should be good but not great.

wow here we go again wit da su bashing. syracuse will come back to reality? u need to do research too my friend. ur school has decades before they'll ever be in our boat. theres like 3 be teams with more losses than wins; uc, uconn, rutgers. are bowl record is better than ALL current and future be members. if ur gonna rag on su for 5 bad years ur a moron. tcu has a few more wins than losses, wv leads su in wns by less than 10, now explain using facts how syracuse's reality is no bowl. i hate wen people try to bring other be teams down. for all who cant read: su, pitt, and wv will hit the exclusive 700 wins plus club in the net 2 years. wv and su this year(bet me), pitt in the next few years. also ur tryn to compare su and uc ur just going to make an idiot of urself. i know moderators play nice, lmfao. everyone knows u can talk bad about su without a response from me, but wen u use no facts and ur own opinion then not cool. top 50 were already there

The bashing is being done more so by you. Living in the past won't help.

(08-10-2011 12:28 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-07-2011 10:33 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:   Then we have to get rid of Depaul, Seton Hall and the scared cow (Providence)! So in essence we are talking about forming a new hybrid conference. So we know Villanova, Georgetown, St. John's are three of the basketball teams that we will keep. Here's where we will differ:

Notre Dame must play football to be included. Why? It allows Marquette to be retained as the fourth basketball program. However. if Notre Dame wants to remain independent, no problem I respect their decision, but we would be under no obligation to continue the current relationship with Notre Dame, if we form a new conference. And while it would be sweet to add Notre Dame, Boston College and Maryland for football, I would tell Notre Dame all in or all out!

In that scenario, it would take the ND administration about three seconds to decide that it is out.

If we tell ND all in or get out, then why have any partial members at all? That doesn't make sense to me...