the new big east would not get the Liberty Bowl?????

i don't need to point you out but it's funny how just 2 days ago Memphis fans was running their mouths about how the LB will in no way pit the SEC vs BE...

i guess we will see.....

They are busy sending angry and/or threatening emails to the Liberty Bowl Execs. I $&#@ you not.

jtwvu87 Wrote:the new big east would not get the Liberty Bowl?????

i don't need to point you out but it's funny how just 2 days ago Memphis fans was running their mouths about how the LB will in no way pit the SEC vs BE...

i guess we will see.....

I'll accept the taunting. What I said and what others probably said were repeats of exactly what the Liberty Bowl Executives said -- hey, I'll admit when I am incorrect. We have been LIED to you. I don't think there's any loss of personal honesty when the error occurred due to being blindsided. Do you think it is any different that what Boston College did?

I do want to note that I don't blame the Big East one bit in their efforts to pick up the LB. Now ... for the SEC, I think they have proven time and time again their complete lack of ethics (Sure, Everybody Cheats). Nothing has really changed except now they have ex-CUSA commish Mike Slive who is an attorney and has the great new honorable method of "don't ask, don't tell" regarding their sins.

I wouldn't trust the SEC as far as I could throw that corrupt conference. That's why I'm so happy to be in the Big East. If UC has to be in one of the "Big Six" conference I sure don't want it to be the SEC. It would be the Big East or Big Ten, though I would have a hard time tolerating Ohio State fans, so I'm VERY happy to be in the Big East.

I said that the Liberty would stay with the conference that Memphis was affiliated with. I haven't gone anywhere.....right or wrong. If a deal is made with another conference, I'll be back to acknowledge that I was wrong.

oldtiger Wrote:I said that the Liberty would stay with the conference that Memphis was affiliated with.

If it doesn't God forbid if it is supported locally.

C-USA has not lost the Liberty Bowl...and i really doubt we will...as it stands we are LOCKED in for this season and are in negotiations to re-new the contract...if they did not want to keep us they would just say so and not include us in negotiations...the Liberty Bowl has been a C-USA partner for over 10 years and i really don't see that changing...locals want C-USA #1 v. someone...and without local support it wouldn't be the same bowl game.

my prediction...C-USA #1 v. BE #3 or ACC #4

Go Tigers!!!
Drew

gomemphistigers1 Wrote:C-USA has not lost the Liberty Bowl...and i really doubt we will...as it stands we are LOCKED in for this season and are in negotiations to re-new the contract...if they did not want to keep us they would just say so and not include us in negotiations...the Liberty Bowl has been a C-USA partner for over 10 years and i really don't see that changing...locals want C-USA #1 v. someone...and without local support it wouldn't be the same bowl game.

my prediction...C-USA #1 v. BE #3 or ACC #4

Go Tigers!!!
Drew

Our #3 isn't on the table for the Liberty if they maintain CUSA. Only for the SEC match-up.

gomemphistigers1 Wrote:C-USA has not lost the Liberty Bowl...and i really doubt we will...as it stands we are LOCKED in for this season and are in negotiations to re-new the contract...if they did not want to keep us they would just say so and not include us in negotiations...the Liberty Bowl has been a C-USA partner for over 10 years and i really don't see that changing...locals want C-USA #1 v. someone...and without local support it wouldn't be the same bowl game.

my prediction...C-USA #1 v. BE #3 or ACC #4

Go Tigers!!!
Drew

If the LB ends up being CUSA vs Big East, I believe the BE will only offer BE #4. The Charlotte bowl (ACC vs Big East) will end up getting BE #3, unless the LB payout is significantly higher.

If the LB is SEC vs Big East, the SEC and LB will insist on BE #3 in that bowl and Charlotte will get BE #4.

L-yes Wrote:Our #3 isn't on the table for the Liberty if they maintain CUSA. Only for the SEC match-up.

As a person that follows both Tiger and Mountaineer football the number 4 NBE team doesn't hold water to the NCUSA champ competively. At the Box Office only. If this is what college football has come to then it will not too far from now destroy itself.

tigeer,

lets see, hmmmmm.....1) West Virginia, 2) Pitt, 3) Syracuse, and 4) Louisville.....now which of your NCUSA teams are better than the four i just listed......

i mean i want to know.....and i could careless that you state that you are a mountaineer fan you sound more like a memphis fan....

Tigeer Wrote:

L-yes Wrote:Our #3 isn't on the table for the Liberty if they maintain CUSA.  Only for the SEC match-up.

As a person that follows both Tiger and Mountaineer football the number 4 NBE team doesn't hold water to the NCUSA champ competively. At the Box Office only. If this is what college football has come to then it will not too far from now destroy itself.

i agree...but i must also say that the Liberty Bowl has always supported Memphis Football and the C-USA...i really don't see that changing...C-USA Champ is not a bad team to play.

Go Tigers!!!
Drew

Unfourtunately Bowls are there to bring money to their communities and make as much as they can. What happens on the field is not as important. If it was we would have had playoofs long ago and we wouldnt have seen 6-6 Texas AM or Wake Forest taking spots while teams like USF 9-2 one year Northern Illinois and Bowling Green teams with 8-9 wins staying home

jtwvu87 Wrote:tigeer,

lets see, hmmmmm.....1) West Virginia, 2) Pitt, 3) Syracuse, and 4) Louisville.....now which of your NCUSA teams are better than the four i just listed......

i mean i want to know.....and i could careless that you state that you are a mountaineer fan you sound more like a memphis fan....

Don't forget Notre Dame.

gomemphistiger,

NCUSA is not going to keep the LB. if the LB is a million plus dollar bowl, i mean it just doesn't make sense that the execs are going to pit NCUSA vs MWC or NCUSA vs BE, or NCUSA vs ACC, or NCUSA vsSEC. it will be BCS vs BCS conferences of which you guys are not a part of..........sorry.

Quote:jtwvu87 Posted on Jul 22 2005, 07:09 PM
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gomemphistiger,

NCUSA is not going to keep the LB. if the LB is a million plus dollar bowl, i mean it just doesn't make sense that the execs are going to pit NCUSA vs MWC or NCUSA vs BE, or NCUSA vs ACC, or NCUSA vsSEC. it will be BCS vs BCS conferences of which you guys are not a part of..........sorry. 

The Liberty Bowl has been a million plus bowl for quite a while now and its featured two non-BCS teams in the C-USA champ vs. MW Champ.

While the SEC #5/6 vs. BE #3 is an intriguing match-up, BE fans should not lose sight of the fact that this could be a ploy by the LB to have unfettered access to a C-USA team of its own choice (a Memphis, Marshall, ECU, UTEP with a solid record) rather than being stuck to a C-USA Champ it may not want (Rice, UAB, Houston etc.).

And if that is the case, and the SEC is adamant about not playing a C-USA team, then it is very conceivable that the BE will still offer a #3/#4 type combo to the LB, telling them they are equal with the Tire Bowl and whichever teams work best for both bowls will be selected.

In other words, if SU or UConn finishes #3 and West Virginia finishes #4, the LB might wind up with WVU while the Tire winds up with SU or UConn since the BE team that travels less might still have a respectable showing in Charlotte whereas the Neers who simply travel well might be sent to Memphis even if they send less there then they might have to Charlotte.

On the other hand, the C-USA and ACC opponents would have to be factored in as well. Let's say its Memphis in the LB and BC in the Tire. In that scenario, it probably wouldn't hurt if SU (with their lesser number of traveling fans) goes to Memphis while WVU goes to Charlotte to make up for the fact that the Eagles aren't sending much to the Tire.

Cheers,
Neil

jtwvu87 Wrote:gomemphistiger,

NCUSA is not going to keep the LB. if the LB is a million plus dollar bowl, i mean it just doesn't make sense that the execs are going to pit NCUSA vs MWC or NCUSA vs BE, or NCUSA vs ACC, or NCUSA vsSEC. it will be BCS vs BCS conferences of which you guys are not a part of..........sorry.

The fact that the bowl is in memphis is the only reason this hasnt already been announced imo.

omnicarrier Wrote:

Quote:jtwvu87 Posted on Jul 22 2005, 07:09 PM
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gomemphistiger,

NCUSA is not going to keep the LB. if the LB is a million plus dollar bowl, i mean it just doesn't make sense that the execs are going to pit NCUSA vs MWC or NCUSA vs BE, or NCUSA vs ACC, or NCUSA vsSEC. it will be BCS vs BCS conferences of which you guys are not a part of..........sorry. 

The Liberty Bowl has been a million plus bowl for quite a while now and its featured two non-BCS teams in the C-USA champ vs. MW Champ.

While the SEC #5/6 vs. BE #3 is an intriguing match-up, BE fans should not lose sight of the fact that this could be a ploy by the LB to have unfettered access to a C-USA team of its own choice (a Memphis, Marshall, ECU, UTEP with a solid record) rather than being stuck to a C-USA Champ it may not want (Rice, UAB, Houston etc.).

And if that is the case, and the SEC is adamant about not playing a C-USA team, then it is very conceivable that the BE will still offer a #3/#4 type combo to the LB, telling them they are equal with the Tire Bowl and whichever teams work best for both bowls will be selected.

In other words, if SU or UConn finishes #3 and West Virginia finishes #4, the LB might wind up with WVU while the Tire winds up with SU or UConn since the BE team that travels less might still have a respectable showing in Charlotte whereas the Neers who simply travel well might be sent to Memphis even if they send less there then they might have to Charlotte.

On the other hand, the C-USA and ACC opponents would have to be factored in as well. Let's say its Memphis in the LB and BC in the Tire. In that scenario, it probably wouldn't hurt if SU (with their lesser number of traveling fans) goes to Memphis while WVU goes to Charlotte to make up for the fact that the Eagles aren't sending much to the Tire.

Cheers,
Neil

Omni,

The Liberty Bowl has already changed its agreement with CUSA to first choice instead of champion effective for the upcoming season. That chip is off the table.

Quote:L-yes Posted on Jul 22 2005, 07:24 PM
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Omni,

The Liberty Bowl has already changed its agreement with CUSA to first choice instead of champion effective for the upcoming season. That chip is off the table. 

Ouch!!!

That's not good for C-USA and the Memphis Tigers then.

Then this has to be strictly a play for an SEC team. I don't see how it could be interpreted as anything else. And since they know that SEC pick will have to be either #5 or #6 dependent upon how much the Music City Bowl pays out, to even make the play demonstrates they will cut the Memphis Tigers and C-USA out without even pretending to be sorry about it.

Cheers,
Neil

IF the LB ends up with a SEC-BE matchup it could make adeal in which every other year it chooses ahead of Tire Bowl.
We will see what happens until then these are all just posibilities on these boards that im sure have been put in front of LB.