JIM15068 Wrote:I could easily see the MWC making itself into a BCS conference by adding the rights teams. If I were in charge, I would go after 3 teams, BOISE ST AND FRESNO ST from the WAC and UTEP from CUSA.

Then I would create 2 divisions for this megaconference with a playoff game to be held in either California or Dallas.

A logical breakdown might go like this, but it would put the toughest teams in the Western division.

WEST: BYU, UTAH, BOISE ST, UNLV, FRESNO STATE, AND SAN DIEGO STATE.

EAST: UTEP, TCU, NEW MEXICO, COL ST, AIR FORCE, WYOMING.

A more balanced set-up might look like this:

1 division: FRESNO ST, SAN DIEGO ST, UNLV, BOISE ST, WYOMING, AIR FORCE.
2 division: UTAH, BYU, COL ST, NEW MEXICO, UTEP, TCU.

With this expansion the MWC would definitely enhance it bcs chances in several ways.

1. Their highest rated team would likely have a higher average over the 4-year evaluation period. UTAH earned 6th last year, but BOISE STATE was 9th, and in any given year might have the higher average.
2. Average ranking for every member of the conference should increase. BOISE ST, 11-1; FRESNO ST, 9-3; AND UTEP, 8-4 would invariably rank the conference average.
3. The number of top 25 teams would increase also. Both Utah and Boise St were bcs top 25 teams lasy year. Additionally, Fresno St was ranked in both the AP and Coaches' poll. Instead of just one top 25 team, the new MWC could have 2 or 3 every year.

I think the MWC expansion I mentioned above would create a formidable conference.

Jim, a MWC team runs the table end up in 6th spot of BCS and qualified for BCS game. A WAC team runs the tables finish in the Top-9 of BCS and not qualify for BCS game. In the new BCS rule, staring 2006 season, Non-BCS team can qualify for BCS game by finish Top-12 BCS ranking or if any BCS team finish between Top-12 and Top-16 BCS ranking then non-BCS can qualify by the same standard.<span style='color:blue'> For this reason, I don’t believe MWC will make any move to make it too difficult for a MWC team to go undefeated</span>. The different now between a Non-BCS team and a BCS team is playing for national title.

Yoda...one of the faults of your theory is the assumption that the BE would add East Carolina.....assuming the BE was as desperate for solid football playing schools as you outlined....then certainly Southern Miss and Marshall become strong options.....your conference rankings would probably be very different if you assumed the BE would add Southern Miss and memphis instead of ECU and Memphis..


Jackson

Jackson1011 Wrote:Yoda...one of the faults of your theory is the assumption that the BE would add East Carolina.....assuming the BE was as desperate for solid football playing schools as you outlined....then certainly Southern Miss and Marshall become strong options.....your conference rankings would probably be very different if you assumed the BE would add Southern Miss and memphis instead of ECU and Memphis..


Jackson

I'm not assuming any such thing. Reread the first five or so pages of the plan. There are only three schools in the east that would improve the Big East's Sagarin ratings over the past five seasons. Bowling Green and Miami of Ohio -- with average attendance of 18,000 -- and Marshall, who has been in a four year freefall.

The only two expansion candidates plausibly available to you in the entire country that would help your power ratings are Boise State and Fresno State. And if you don't add them and distance yourself from the MWC, then the MWC will add them and distance themselves from you.

Yoda out...

Yoda Wrote:

Jackson1011 Wrote:Yoda...one of the faults of your theory is the assumption that the BE would add East Carolina.....assuming the BE was as desperate for solid football playing schools as you outlined....then certainly Southern Miss and Marshall become strong options.....your conference rankings would probably be very different if you assumed the BE would add Southern Miss and memphis instead of ECU and Memphis..


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I'm not assuming any such thing. Reread the first five or so pages of the plan. There are only three schools in the east that would improve the Big East's Sagarin ratings over the past five seasons. Bowling Green and Miami of Ohio -- with average attendance of 18,000 -- and Marshall, who has been in a four year freefall.

The only two expansion candidates plausibly available to you in the entire country that would help your power ratings are Boise State and Fresno State. And if you don't add them and distance yourself from the MWC, then the MWC will add them and distance themselves from you.

Yoda out...

Yoda; I respect what you are saying on this board, but obviously the BE folks dont have the same sense of urgency to expand that you are trying to imply that they should have. I think trying to expand way out west, even if for fb only is a sign of desperation. To be blunt, I think the BE is sitting much prettier than what you are saying. The folks that run the BE seem to think as much.

What if a school like Southern Miss, or Marshall or Memphis goes on a tear and have a Louisville like season the next 2 years, and they end up in the top 10 or 12? Dont you think the BE would be smart in bringing them in after a couple of seasons like that? Then they could count those 2 seasons for the BE, since the BCS will count those past 2 seasons towards the conference they would be in at the time of evaluation. By playing in the BE next season, and the season after, it would be doubtful that these schools would have such a season, since they would have to play the likes of Pitt, Louisville, and WV. But playing in CUSA makes it very possible for them to go on a tear and end up in the top 12.

I see Yoda has made it all the waayyyyy over to the BE board with his persistance of someone adding FSU and BSU.

Like some Utep poster told him on the MWCboard, he should just try to focus on how to make the WAC stronger and not waste so much time and energy trying to convince other posters from different conferences the benefits of adding FSU and BSU.

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