(12-08-2011 12:56 AM)FonzKnight Wrote:  I prefer Memphis to Temple... If the BEast wants a basketball school, might as well jump on the best one. Temple and Memphis will both struggle badly in football, at least Memphis brings the Liberty Bowl.

I was hoping hard that ECU would join the Big East until I had to deal with their fan reaction to UCF getting the call up.. now I kinda prefer them to stay where they're at

What did you expect?

Well, add Temple, and you have 11...might as well chalk up Memphis.

East - Temple, Cincinnati, Rutgers, UConn, Memphis, Louisville
West - UCF, USF, Houston, SMU, Boise State, SDSU

No.
They're bad at football and we don't need another team from that region.
Let them stay in the A-10 with the other basketball schools, in fact, let them stay and take Villanova with them. They don't contribute much anyway.

(12-08-2011 12:56 AM)FonzKnight Wrote:  I prefer Memphis to Temple... If the BEast wants a basketball school, might as well jump on the best one. Temple and Memphis will both struggle badly in football, at least Memphis brings the Liberty Bowl.

I was hoping hard that ECU would join the Big East until I had to deal with their fan reaction to UCF getting the call up.. now I kinda prefer them to stay where they're at

Except you got the liberty bowl without Memphis this year...

Temple is actually decent in football now. Light years ahead of Memphis. They're going bowling under their second successful coaching hire in a row. Ladies and gentlemen, that is how you build a program.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/col...story.html

Wyoming, Temple to begin bowl season on Dec. 17 in New Mexico Bowl

By Associated Press, Published: December 4



Wyoming and Temple will kick off the bowl season Dec. 17 in the New Mexico Bowl in Albuquerque.

The Cowboys (8-4) of the Mountain West Conference make their second postseason trip to Albuquerque in three years. They won the 2009 New Mexico Bowl in double overtime, beating Fresno State 35-28.

“Two years ago, we had a great experience at the New Mexico Bowl,” Wyoming coach Dave Christensen said. “We are honored to receive this invitation. Our team has worked extremely hard this season, and this is a great reward for our players, coaches and fans.

For Temple (8-4), it’s also the second bowl game in three years, but that 2009 game — a 30-21 loss to UCLA in the EagleBank Bowl in Washington — was the Owls’ first bowl in 30 years.

“We wanted some place different (than D.C.), it’s pretty good that we get to show our talents someplace else,” said Owls defensive end Adrian Robinson.

The Mid-American Conference East runners-up were glad to get a call from the New Mexico Bowl because last year, Temple stayed home despite an 8-4 record. The Owls, then coached by Al Golden, now at Miami, were the only bowl-eligible team with more than six wins that didn’t go to one.

“Last year, obviously, it was a really tough time, because you think that you’re definitely getting a bowl game,” Temple offensive lineman John Palumbo said. “So I think this year we were a little more skeptical, and (hearing it) was definitely a sigh of relief.”

Wyoming finished third in the Mountain West behind No. 16 TCU and No. 8 Boise State. The Cowboys beat Colorado State 22-19 on Saturday for their eighth win. Earlier this season, Wyoming beat MAC member Bowling Green 28-27; Temple lost to Bowling Green 13-10.

“They played Bowling Green, so I got a chance to take a little sneak peak at that,” said Steve Addazio, who succeeded Golden as Temple’s coach. “They’re a wide-open team, they’re a quality team, an exciting team, and I think it’ll be a heck of a football game.”

Addazio, who was an assistant on Urban Meyer’s two national championship teams at Florida that closed out bowl seasons, can’t wait to get to Albuquerque and get started on this one.

“I think it’s awful cool to kick the bowl season off. People are excited to see the first games, it’s on national TV. We’re getting a chance to go out to a whole new bowl venue, play a great Wyoming team, so I’m really thrilled to death.”

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The Big East needs to put a gag order on Calhoun, Pitino, and all these other coaches who keep mentioning Temple, Memphis, and Assorted Scrub Schools to the media. Just shut up and let Marinatto finish the football expansion before spouting off about basketball. The model is two six-team divisions, possibly two with seven squads, and 16 basketball programs.

BIG EAST ATLANTIC
UConn / Rutgers
Cincy / Louisville
USF / UCF

BIG EAST PACIFIC
Houston / SMU
Boise State / Navy or BYU or Whoever
Fresno State / SDSU

Once all those schools are secured, then the Big East can decide if it wants to go to a 14/18 model. The problem with Temple is that Villanova keeps blocking them, and will keep claiming they plan to upgrade, unless the Big East finally tells them to either put up or shut up. The Big East does not need Memphis at all. I would rather have Butler if it comes down to that.

I think you can see the basketball members thinking well you got those additions that help the football side. Now we need to reinforce basketball. If air force says no. I think we will see Memphis added to the west. If navy says no then temple moves up

The basketball coaches (exception: Jay Wright) want Temple for obvious reasons. Football-wise, they're a fine replacement for Navy if Navy says No (though most sports writers indicate that Navy will, in fact, play football in the Big East).

But if Air Force says No (and apparently that's the way they're leaning now), we must go with a western team (Mountain or Pacific Time Zone). Then we have to go for UNLV (or continue courting BYU).

To me BYU is the only western school school left worth chasing after. If you can't find some middle ground with them, I would grab Memphis. They replace some of the basketball cache the league lost and you can stick them in the Western division. If Navy is no longer interested I would take ECU.

(12-08-2011 07:20 AM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  To me BYU is the only western school school left worth chasing after. If you can't find some middle ground with them, I would grab Memphis. They replace some of the basketball cache the league lost and you can stick them in the Western division. If Navy is no longer interested I would take ECU.

Isn't AF invited for football-only? If it declines, Temple or whoever would be a football-only invite under the current setup. I would rather see ECU as a football-only in that event.

(12-07-2011 11:49 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(12-07-2011 11:44 PM)brista21 Wrote:  If the academies are out then add Temple in all-sports and another western team in football only.

Just add Temple and Memphis in all-sports to go to 12/18

+1

Memphis gives another great bb program to sell as does Temple, plus one good and one great market. Memphis will give BE Liberty Bowl full time. Likely puts BE at the top or very near the top in BB again.

(12-08-2011 08:13 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(12-07-2011 11:49 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(12-07-2011 11:44 PM)brista21 Wrote:  If the academies are out then add Temple in all-sports and another western team in football only.

Just add Temple and Memphis in all-sports to go to 12/18

Q
+1

Memphis gives another great bb program to sell as does Temple, plus one good and one great market. Memphis will give BE Liberty Bowl full time. Likely puts BE at the top or very near the top in BB again.

I agree Memphis makes sense if it's to reinforce basketball. No question they would be a benefit. But they are shiiii taaayyy in CFB. I'd like to see a strategy from them drawing up how they intend to improve their FB facilities, staff, and fan support, otherwise I think they'll just continue to lean on their basketball program to support their inclusion, and be satisfied to remain a doormat in CFB.

All things Temple thread

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=499738&page=9

(12-08-2011 01:24 AM)Butterfly Wrote:  No.
They're bad at football and we don't need another team from that region.
Let them stay in the A-10 with the other basketball schools, in fact, let them stay and take Villanova with them. They don't contribute much anyway.

If Temple is bad at football what does that make SDSU, and this is no knock at all towards them as I see similarities in both programs. Records, last 5 years SDSU 26-34, Temple 34-26. If you are making arguments about lower attendance, or the BE has a memeber in the Philly area point taken.

As a Louisville fan, I like Memphis, but I don't think they have enough support. One thing I'd hate to see happen is for Memphis to be in the conference but in a different division from Louisville. So if it happened, either Louisville & Memphis both would have to be in the west, or Memphis & Louisville would be set up as permanent cross-divisional rivals.

I think USM, ECU, Temple, and Memphis would all be worthy additions. If you're going for adding B-Ball strength then add Memphis and Temple. If football then ECU and USM. Memphis would hopefully bring the Liberty Bowl with it from C-USA.

(12-08-2011 08:36 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(12-08-2011 08:13 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(12-07-2011 11:49 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(12-07-2011 11:44 PM)brista21 Wrote:  If the academies are out then add Temple in all-sports and another western team in football only.

Just add Temple and Memphis in all-sports to go to 12/18

Q
+1

Memphis gives another great bb program to sell as does Temple, plus one good and one great market. Memphis will give BE Liberty Bowl full time. Likely puts BE at the top or very near the top in BB again.

I agree Memphis makes sense if it's to reinforce basketball. No question they would be a benefit. But they are shiiii taaayyy in CFB. I'd like to see a strategy from them drawing up how they intend to improve their FB facilities, staff, and fan support, otherwise I think they'll just continue to lean on their basketball program to support their inclusion, and be satisfied to remain a doormat in CFB.

And UCF has always been a jugernaut in FB itself, ay. Seem to recall an 0-fer season not so long ago myself. We have fired our coach and AD so that is a start. The short-sightedness of the BE will be its ultimate demise. if such happens. We shall see.

Air Force is out...if Navy is out add Temple & Memphis...if Navy is still in then just add Temple to lock down Philly and have a Football pressence in Pennsylvania.

(12-08-2011 08:52 AM)TUJim Wrote:  

(12-08-2011 01:24 AM)Butterfly Wrote:  No.
They're bad at football and we don't need another team from that region.
Let them stay in the A-10 with the other basketball schools, in fact, let them stay and take Villanova with them. They don't contribute much anyway.

If Temple is bad at football what does that make SDSU, and this is no knock at all towards them as I see similarities in both programs. Records, last 5 years SDSU 26-34, Temple 34-26. If you are making arguments about lower attendance, or the BE has a memeber in the Philly area point taken.

SDSU played against a significantly tougher schedule during that stretch. There aren't any BYUs, Utahs, TCUs, etc...in the MAC.

(12-08-2011 08:54 AM)SmallVoice Wrote:  As a Louisville fan, I like Memphis, but I don't think they have enough support. One thing I'd hate to see happen is for Memphis to be in the conference but in a different division from Louisville. So if it happened, either Louisville & Memphis both would have to be in the west, or Memphis & Louisville would be set up as permanent cross-divisional rivals.

They got a great football coach yesterday