Jackson, The only split is between the lobes of your brain. Is this all you ever talk about....a subject that is not even a subject and won't be? We need to get you a date.

ban this puke!

TopCoog Wrote:Jackson, The only split is between the lobes of your brain. Is this all you ever talk about....a subject that is not even a subject and won't be? We need to get you a date.

If you have a problem with this then b*tch about it on the C-USA board, nobody cares what you think over here.

Wilkie01 Wrote: ban this puke!

Amen!

big_bubba Wrote:

TexanMark Wrote:

USFBullSpit Wrote:UCF will not happen unless we have 12 all sports members.  They would hurt our recruiting, they currently lack a good fan base, and they stink.

Tell us how you really feel about them :laugh: --if the BE goes to 12 teams all sports I would love to have UCF--if Notre Dame, Penn St say no as expected

So you like the idea of adding UCF? Where did you stand when it was still a split between UCF or USF before BC left?

Somewhat ambivalent--probably lean a tad toward USF since that had the more established BB program. I traveled to UCF for a football game--never been to USF--so I can't give an opinion of each campus' merits

About this Cowboy Up thing. Okay it's been established and ranted on ad nauseum that our actual attendance was around 20K give or take this year. We sold 27K tickets on average. So are you trying to insinuate that if we don't dramatically increase by 50% in a year or two our actual headcount for games, you're going to give us the Temple treatment?

big_bubba Wrote:About this Cowboy Up thing. Okay it's been established and ranted on ad nauseum that our actual attendance was around 20K give or take this year. We sold 27K tickets on average. So are you trying to insinuate that if we don't dramatically increase by 50% in a year or two our actual headcount for games, you're going to give us the Temple treatment?

Not just me--the whole league will

Cinci is on notice to

When the Big East had Miami, VT and BC we could afford a Temple and Rutgers. Rutgers is fixing their attendance and is becoming solid.

We can't afford any weak sisters. The league needs 8 solid programs which can bring out 30,000 fans.

Big East schools
attendance rank/ school- attendance- # of home games

36/ West Virginia- 56,545- 6
51/ Pittsburgh- 41,600- 6
56/ Louisville- 40,531- 5
58/ UConn- 39,304- 7
61/ Syracuse- 37,282- 5
69/ Rutgers- 30,994- 6
80/ USF- 27,060- 6
88/ Cincinatti- 21,255- 5

BullsFanatic Wrote:fsquid: I got this from the Tampa Tribune-
"MEMPHIS BLUES: When the Big East was seeking its final member, Memphis AD R.C. Johnson was outspoken on his thoughts that USF did not belong.''

And RC Johnson is correct.

USF doesn't belong.

BullsFanatic Wrote:Something ECU COULD do...and I say COULD...is join the sun belt for all sports but football until the split takes place.
Starting 2006, the Sun Belt will have 13 teams. Ugly, ugly number.
But, it is a decent basketball league, and a good baseball league.
Of course, all of this depends on the whole WKU/Temple to the MAC thing.
If WKU does not go to the MAC, they are still at 13, and could use another member.
If WKU does go to the MAC, it will be with Temple (see MAC board). So the Sun Belt will be ok at 12, but then the Atlantic 10 will have an open spot.
I think one way or another, ECU will work its other sports into a league and get their football into the Big East by 2007.

Nope, can't put other sports in the Sun Belt. Conference bi-laws require members with 1A football to have their teams in the Belt.

TexanMark Wrote:

big_bubba Wrote:About this Cowboy Up thing.  Okay it's been established and ranted on ad nauseum that our actual attendance was around 20K give or take this year.  We sold 27K tickets on average.  So are you trying to insinuate that if we don't dramatically increase by 50% in a year or two our actual headcount for games, you're going to give us the Temple treatment?

Not just me--the whole league will

Cinci is on notice to

When the Big East had Miami, VT and BC we could afford a Temple and Rutgers. Rutgers is fixing their attendance and is becoming solid.

We can't afford any weak sisters. The league needs 8 solid programs which can bring out 30,000 fans.

This league ain't got the cojones to kick us out after two years. If this league is going to try to establish BCS credibility we can't continue having a musical chairs type membership. Second, what if we don't draw a huge number of fans? But we're still able to whoop the rest of the league's butts. Something which I will not hesitate to suggest. We live in Gator country. We're not going to overcome the fan perception and stereotypes. But we can whip Syracuse on the field. You gonna kick us out? I know our last season wasn't so hot, but I know we're on the edge of something big and I predict our next year is gonna be a break out and we're gonna break down Cuse, WVU, etc. attendance or not.

big_bubba Wrote:

TexanMark Wrote:

big_bubba Wrote:About this Cowboy Up thing.  Okay it's been established and ranted on ad nauseum that our actual attendance was around 20K give or take this year.  We sold 27K tickets on average.  So are you trying to insinuate that if we don't dramatically increase by 50% in a year or two our actual headcount for games, you're going to give us the Temple treatment?

Not just me--the whole league will

Cinci is on notice to

When the Big East had Miami, VT and BC we could afford a Temple and Rutgers. Rutgers is fixing their attendance and is becoming solid.

We can't afford any weak sisters. The league needs 8 solid programs which can bring out 30,000 fans.

This league ain't got the cojones to kick us out after two years. If this league is going to try to establish BCS credibility we can't continue having a musical chairs type membership. Second, what if we don't draw a huge number of fans? But we're still able to whoop the rest of the league's butts. Something which I will not hesitate to suggest. We live in Gator country. We're not going to overcome the fan perception and stereotypes. But we can whip Syracuse on the field. You gonna kick us out? I know our last season wasn't so hot, but I know we're on the edge of something big and I predict our next year is gonna be a break out and we're gonna break down Cuse, WVU, etc. attendance or not.

:rolleyes:

I could name a dozen 1AA schools that draw more and would destroy USF.

Man beating Cincy sure did make you cocky :laugh:

Calm down Bubba,...they'll give you a pass for a few years :wave:

Man I hope we NEVER add UCF to the Big East. They have not proved they can compete at the CUSA level yet and now we speculate that they could be invited to join a BCS simply because of where they are located. I'm sorry but Memphis and ECU deserve consideration over the Knights simply because they have done it on the field and court. JMO
CJ

big_bubba Wrote:

TexanMark Wrote:

big_bubba Wrote:About this Cowboy Up thing.  Okay it's been established and ranted on ad nauseum that our actual attendance was around 20K give or take this year.  We sold 27K tickets on average.  So are you trying to insinuate that if we don't dramatically increase by 50% in a year or two our actual headcount for games, you're going to give us the Temple treatment?

Not just me--the whole league will

Cinci is on notice to

When the Big East had Miami, VT and BC we could afford a Temple and Rutgers. Rutgers is fixing their attendance and is becoming solid.

We can't afford any weak sisters. The league needs 8 solid programs which can bring out 30,000 fans.

This league ain't got the cojones to kick us out after two years. If this league is going to try to establish BCS credibility we can't continue having a musical chairs type membership. Second, what if we don't draw a huge number of fans? But we're still able to whoop the rest of the league's butts. Something which I will not hesitate to suggest. We live in Gator country. We're not going to overcome the fan perception and stereotypes. But we can whip Syracuse on the field. You gonna kick us out? I know our last season wasn't so hot, but I know we're on the edge of something big and I predict our next year is gonna be a break out and we're gonna break down Cuse, WVU, etc. attendance or not.

Hey Bubba take the chip off your shoulder (Boy, I saw this coming with your previous leading questions)--it took the Big East about 6 years to kick Temple out--USF will have ample time to get their program up to BCS attendance standards.

Don't give me your Gator Country Crap--I've lived in Florida (loved it BTW) and all Gator Country means to me is mulletheads sportin Foakleys with bad teeth driving around the trailer park with Rebel Flag Festooned '89 Ford 4WD pickup trucks with huge tires.

If USF beat all the teams you think they'll beat then a normal person can conclude their attendance should pickup--you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

Chip on my shoulder? We've had the most meteoric rise in Division I football history. I don't have a chip on my shoulder. It's easy to see that if you just interpolate out into the future based on where we came from (no football less than a decade ago) you can easily see that we will be contenders on the national stage. Face it, we're going to be the next Miami for the Big East. MT recognized a good thing and jumped on it. So to hear some school that doesn't have the same potential that we have pontificate about possibly kicking us out... well, sorry if I've got a chip.

We already beat Pitt during our infancy. Now that we're coming into our own we will dominate the Big East. It's just plain to see. I think the biggest loser in this is going to be Louisville. They put 26 kids on their roster from Florida. Now that we're in a BCS BE, don't expect Louisville to sniff a good recruit that we're also interested in. Louisville has reached their peak. Now it's our turn. But our stay on top which be much longer lived.

We came from nothing less than 10 years ago to a BCS league. The future is bright.

And for the Memphis fan:

That must really sting all those poor Memphis fans. boo friggin hoo. You're not in the Big East so why are you talking?

TopCoog Wrote:Can't believe you guys are still talking about this crap. I'm starting to think I need to post the address of a shrink or two.

This is the Big East Board. If you don't want to talk about Big East issues don't visit. You see as members of this conference we know better than some bubba stuck in the lone star state what the plans of OUR conference are. Bottomline, you are fearful that schools like Memphis and/or ECU will receive what you said UofL, UC and USF would NEVER receive and thats membership in a BCS conference. You see CUSA is presently on life support. Fans at Memphis, ECU, Marshall and UCF to name a few know it and so do you down in your heart of hearts. You don't invite WAC members to join without being desperate, we both know it. When the Cards, Bearcats and Bulls left TCU saw the handwriting on the wall and bolted for the MWC. USM did because they moved to improve their basketball program immediately. ECU hired a new AD and he has changed football coaches and is the process of changing basketball coaches. Memphis is improving facilities and making capital improvements. Why because they too see the handwriting on the wall. You see a split is coming and the Big East will once again have its way with CUSA...
CJ

I hope your right Bubba, but I think you might be settings your standards a little high just yet. It takes time to build up some credibility in any sport, you won't just start getting all the top guys over night. Good luck to you guys though, as both USF and UC need to build up a fan base.

CardinalJim Wrote:Man I hope we NEVER add UCF to the Big East. They have not proved they can compete at the CUSA level yet and now we speculate that they could be invited to join a BCS simply because of where they are located. I'm sorry but Memphis and ECU deserve consideration over the Knights simply because they have done it on the field and court. JMO
CJ

I keep on reading this and can't help but think you're making a dig at USF but using UCF's name. Are you trying to impeach our credibility as a BCS worthy team because we were 4-7 in football this year? Our basketball speaks for itself. Right cinci?

big_bubba Wrote:It's easy to see that if you just interpolate out into the future based on where we came from (no football less than a decade ago) you can easily see that we will be contenders on the national stage. Face it, we're going to be the next Miami for the Big East. MT recognized a good thing and jumped on it. So to hear some school that doesn't have the same potential that we have pontificate about possibly kicking us out... well, sorry if I've got a chip.

We already beat Pitt during our infancy. Now that we're coming into our own we will dominate the Big East. It's just plain to see. I think the biggest loser in this is going to be Louisville. They put 26 kids on their roster from Florida. Now that we're in a BCS BE, don't expect Louisville to sniff a good recruit that we're also interested in. Louisville has reached their peak. Now it's our turn. But our stay on top which be much longer lived.

That's some mighty confident talk. Nothing wrong with that. Hopefully your team can back it up. But judging from the performance I saw in person against UC last year you have some work to do. :wave:

big_bubba Wrote:

CardinalJim Wrote:Man I hope we NEVER add UCF to the Big East. They have not proved they can compete at the CUSA level yet and now we speculate that they could be invited to join a BCS simply because of where they are located. I'm sorry but Memphis and ECU deserve consideration over the Knights simply because they have done it on the field and court. JMO
CJ

I keep on reading this and can't help but think you're making a dig at USF but using UCF's name. Are you trying to impeach our credibility as a BCS worthy team because we were 4-7 in football this year? Our basketball speaks for itself. Right cinci?

Bubba time to slow down

I heard this same bravado from UCF during the Culpepper era. I don't think any of the fellow Big East teams or fans are scared just yet. Before blathering on about conference domination of epic proportions maybe you should set your sights on winning records first. Get to a bowl game first--right now you are below UConn, Cinci and Rutgers-->they have all been to a bowl game. Win a NCAA Basketball tournament game while you're at it. Put more than 30,000 fans into RayJay on a consistent basis.