(04-21-2012 11:42 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(04-21-2012 07:30 AM)Flat Tire 2 Wrote:  Marshall almost hired the famous Jerry Faust after he left Notre Dame. Thankfully Jerry ended up at Akron and Herd fans are forever grateful to Akron!

Isn't that the year we hired Parrish, who was here 2 years. The only place Parrish ever won at was at Marshall.

I think it was after Parrish left when Faust visited Huntington for the interview. If that is the case, then The Herd hired George Chaump instead of Faust.

This is like picking the smallest fat kid for dodgeball. He might suck less than the rest of them, but he is still fat

Sorry, No Akron, No FIU, No FAU, No N Illinois, No ULL, No Eastern MI, No Central MI, No Western MI, No Southern MI, Southeastern MI, Northwestern MI. Oops, Sorry, they all start sounding the same after a while...

A couple of the following; ODU, Charlotte, and one TX school, and that's it. Keep as much of our remaining idenity as possible.

(04-21-2012 01:45 PM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  

(04-21-2012 12:40 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote:  Akron is perfect for the MAC because of the large number of alumni in the region and the STO coverage of the MAC in Ohio in the greater Cleveland area. Akron's biggest rival is Kent State. Akron loses its biggest draw if they left the MAC. There is no team in CUSA or MWC that would out draw Kent State and Ohio games for Akron. Why would Akron leave the MAC to play in a conference with UTEP, Rice and Tulane and high travel cost. MAC has been great for Akron since they left the OVC. Having the MAC basketball tournament in Cleveland is a huge plus for Akron's fans. Marshall made a lot of money moving to CUSA, but the money is drying up with the exits of UCF, Houston, SMU and Memphis following the exits of Louisville, Cincinnati, USF and TCU. CUSA will never recover from that. In the same period of time the MAC lost UCF(football), Marshall and Temple(football). CUSA has fallen back to where the MAC is over the last ten years. Tulsa, UTEP and UAB basketball have slipped in that same time frame. Ironic is that the MAC may add JMU, Delaware and ODU as its 14, 15, and 16th teams. Those are who CUSA should be adding instead of a failed western alliance with teams from Nevada, New Mexico and Wyoming that bring zero TV and late nite start time in the east coast when fans are in bed.

What i boldfaced is why i agree with you that Akron Zippies DO NOT belong in CUSA, MWCUSA, whatever.

LOL. Yeah not sure what BobcatJohn was trying to prove there.

(04-21-2012 05:45 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(04-21-2012 01:24 PM)Rocketime Wrote:  

(04-21-2012 11:47 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Doesn't Akron pretty much suck at everything?

That's why.

Akron won the NCAA national championship in men's soccer in 2010.

That's about the equivalent of winning the National Checkers Championship.

Hey, I'd be ecstatic if UCF won the men's soccer title. Kudos to Akron for that accomplishment (not being sarcastic). Unfortunately, though, being good in men's soccer doesn't mean squat when major college athletics is pretty much dominated by how well programs perform in football and men's basketball; I'm not referring only to on-the-field performance, I'm referring to $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

(04-21-2012 01:17 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(04-21-2012 12:40 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote:  Akron is perfect for the MAC because of the large number of alumni in the region and the STO coverage of the MAC in Ohio in the greater Cleveland area. Akron's biggest rival is Kent State. Akron loses its biggest draw if they left the MAC. The is no team in CUSA or MWC that would out draw Kent State and Ohio games for Akron. Why would Akron leave the MAC to play in a conference with UTEP, Rice and Tulane and high travel cost. MAC has been great for Akron since they left the OVC. Having the MAC basketball tournament in Cleveland is a huge plus for Akron's fans. Marshall made a lot of money moving to CUSA, but the money is drying up with the exits of UCF, Houston, SMU and Memphis following the exits of Louisville, Cincinnati, USF and TCU. CUSA will never recover from that. In the same period of time the MAC lost UCF(football), Marshall and Temple(football). CUSA has fallen back to where the MAC is over the last ten years. Tulsa, UTEP and UAB basketball have slipped in that same time frame. Ironic is that the MAC may add JMU, Delaware and ODU as its 14, 15, and 16th teams. Those are who CUSA should be adding instead of a failed western alliance with teams from Nevada, New Mexico and Wyoming that bring zero TV and late nite start time in the east coast when fans are in bed.

Actually it sounds like the money is increasing, even if it is a smaller increase than what we hoped for. The MAC is a fine, very regional, conference without any hope of making good media money. Nothing wrong with that. And as for Akron playing in a conference with UTEP, Rice, Tulsa, etc., the only way Akron or Toledo or anyone else from the MAC would be playing in CUSA is if it gets big enough for more regional pods. And UTEP was rebuilding this year in basketball with an NIT appearance last year and an NCAA appearance the year before. UTEP, UAB and Tulsa will be fine and much better than the competition Ohio faces in the MAC.

I agree that the revenue will be much better in the C-USA/MWC alliance than it will be in the MAC two years from now. Sorry, MAC fans, but C-USA/MWC will reach a greater number of TV sets and time zones and will get more exposure.

In regard to MinerInWisconsin's last sentence ("UTEP, UAB and Tulsa will be fine and much better than the competition Ohio faces in the MAC. "), I've never felt that C-USA's level of talent in football was much different than what the MAC has. Consider that UCF went 0-11 in 2004 (UCF's final year playing MAC football), then won 8 games the next season in C-USA and won the East Division title. Obviously, the MAC is far tougher in football than C-USA.

(04-22-2012 06:42 AM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  

(04-21-2012 01:17 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(04-21-2012 12:40 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote:  Akron is perfect for the MAC because of the large number of alumni in the region and the STO coverage of the MAC in Ohio in the greater Cleveland area. Akron's biggest rival is Kent State. Akron loses its biggest draw if they left the MAC. The is no team in CUSA or MWC that would out draw Kent State and Ohio games for Akron. Why would Akron leave the MAC to play in a conference with UTEP, Rice and Tulane and high travel cost. MAC has been great for Akron since they left the OVC. Having the MAC basketball tournament in Cleveland is a huge plus for Akron's fans. Marshall made a lot of money moving to CUSA, but the money is drying up with the exits of UCF, Houston, SMU and Memphis following the exits of Louisville, Cincinnati, USF and TCU. CUSA will never recover from that. In the same period of time the MAC lost UCF(football), Marshall and Temple(football). CUSA has fallen back to where the MAC is over the last ten years. Tulsa, UTEP and UAB basketball have slipped in that same time frame. Ironic is that the MAC may add JMU, Delaware and ODU as its 14, 15, and 16th teams. Those are who CUSA should be adding instead of a failed western alliance with teams from Nevada, New Mexico and Wyoming that bring zero TV and late nite start time in the east coast when fans are in bed.

Actually it sounds like the money is increasing, even if it is a smaller increase than what we hoped for. The MAC is a fine, very regional, conference without any hope of making good media money. Nothing wrong with that. And as for Akron playing in a conference with UTEP, Rice, Tulsa, etc., the only way Akron or Toledo or anyone else from the MAC would be playing in CUSA is if it gets big enough for more regional pods. And UTEP was rebuilding this year in basketball with an NIT appearance last year and an NCAA appearance the year before. UTEP, UAB and Tulsa will be fine and much better than the competition Ohio faces in the MAC.

I agree that the revenue will be much better in the C-USA/MWC alliance than it will be in the MAC two years from now. Sorry, MAC fans, but C-USA/MWC will reach a greater number of TV sets and time zones and will get more exposure.

In regard to MinerInWisconsin's last sentence ("UTEP, UAB and Tulsa will be fine and much better than the competition Ohio faces in the MAC. "), I've never felt that C-USA's level of talent in football was much different than what the MAC has. Consider that UCF went 0-11 in 2004 (UCF's final year playing MAC football), then won 8 games the next season in C-USA and won the East Division title. Obviously, the MAC is far tougher in football than C-USA.

(04-22-2012 06:42 AM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  

(04-21-2012 01:17 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(04-21-2012 12:40 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote:  Akron is perfect for the MAC because of the large number of alumni in the region and the STO coverage of the MAC in Ohio in the greater Cleveland area. Akron's biggest rival is Kent State. Akron loses its biggest draw if they left the MAC. The is no team in CUSA or MWC that would out draw Kent State and Ohio games for Akron. Why would Akron leave the MAC to play in a conference with UTEP, Rice and Tulane and high travel cost. MAC has been great for Akron since they left the OVC. Having the MAC basketball tournament in Cleveland is a huge plus for Akron's fans. Marshall made a lot of money moving to CUSA, but the money is drying up with the exits of UCF, Houston, SMU and Memphis following the exits of Louisville, Cincinnati, USF and TCU. CUSA will never recover from that. In the same period of time the MAC lost UCF(football), Marshall and Temple(football). CUSA has fallen back to where the MAC is over the last ten years. Tulsa, UTEP and UAB basketball have slipped in that same time frame. Ironic is that the MAC may add JMU, Delaware and ODU as its 14, 15, and 16th teams. Those are who CUSA should be adding instead of a failed western alliance with teams from Nevada, New Mexico and Wyoming that bring zero TV and late nite start time in the east coast when fans are in bed.

Actually it sounds like the money is increasing, even if it is a smaller increase than what we hoped for. The MAC is a fine, very regional, conference without any hope of making good media money. Nothing wrong with that. And as for Akron playing in a conference with UTEP, Rice, Tulsa, etc., the only way Akron or Toledo or anyone else from the MAC would be playing in CUSA is if it gets big enough for more regional pods. And UTEP was rebuilding this year in basketball with an NIT appearance last year and an NCAA appearance the year before. UTEP, UAB and Tulsa will be fine and much better than the competition Ohio faces in the MAC.

I agree that the revenue will be much better in the C-USA/MWC alliance than it will be in the MAC two years from now. Sorry, MAC fans, but C-USA/MWC will reach a greater number of TV sets and time zones and will get more exposure.

In regard to MinerInWisconsin's last sentence ("UTEP, UAB and Tulsa will be fine and much better than the competition Ohio faces in the MAC. "), I've never felt that C-USA's level of talent in football was much different than what the MAC has. Consider that UCF went 0-11 in 2004 (UCF's final year playing MAC football), then won 8 games the next season in C-USA and won the East Division title. Obviously, the MAC is far tougher in football than C-USA.

So you didn't notice that basketball was the subject at that point?

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

Now ranked 24th.

(04-20-2012 10:44 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  I get UNT. I get FIU. I get, even like MTSU. What I don't get, and it's no offense to them, is LT. We already have a school in Louisiana and a plethora of schools in that part of the country. The conference and MU & ECU in general need teams in the Eastern time zone. I know Akron sucks right now; but with the coach, stadium, and market they could add a lot of value to the conference. Heck even adding Toledo and Ohio would be great. Ohio and even parts of Michigan would be adding TV sets to the league we don't have and help with Eastern time zone teams.

But this part is no longer accurate. Also, LaTech has outperformed more than half of CUSA this year. Be glad to have us.

(02-27-2013 10:49 AM)papa_dawg Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 10:44 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  I get UNT. I get FIU. I get, even like MTSU. What I don't get, and it's no offense to them, is LT. We already have a school in Louisiana and a plethora of schools in that part of the country. The conference and MU & ECU in general need teams in the Eastern time zone. I know Akron sucks right now; but with the coach, stadium, and market they could add a lot of value to the conference. Heck even adding Toledo and Ohio would be great. Ohio and even parts of Michigan would be adding TV sets to the league we don't have and help with Eastern time zone teams.

But this part is no longer accurate. Also, LaTech has outperformed more than half of CUSA this year. Be glad to have us.

Lol. Yes, as you can tell this is a very old thread. I now approve of LT.

(04-21-2012 07:30 AM)Flat Tire 2 Wrote:  Marshall almost hired the famous Jerry Faust after he left Notre Dame. Thankfully Jerry ended up at Akron and Herd fans are forever grateful to Akron!

We got IUP (Indiana University of Pennsylvania) HC George Chaump instead.

11,109 attendance for Ohio/Akron game Wednesday nite. Overtime thriller between the MAC's top two teams. Ohio/Akron played in overtime in the MAC finals both in 2010 and 2012. Akron longest win streak in nation at 19 in a row.

Akron???

(04-20-2012 09:45 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7834...ll-program

Pretty big market, a new state, needed team in the eastern time zone. Plus having the Bowden's there could bring some attention to the league.

Because they have no fan support and everyone always gets them confused with Akron... wait... I meant Kent State.... wait... yeah, Kent State.

Plus it's a crappy drive to a ****** town and it's always cold and they talk funny up there.

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(04-20-2012 03:40 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  glad you guys are starting to realize, C-USA needs NE presence
to rebuild thier TV market.
And none are bigger than Mass, Ohio & Western NY.
2 schools 60 miles outside of Nashville doesn't cut it

News Flash... no one in the NE gives a crap about college football.

(04-20-2012 04:38 PM)GreenSteve Wrote:  

(04-20-2012 04:29 PM)marshallisqbu Wrote:  I'd rather have OU.

Ohio and Marshall are in the same DMA. Doubt that will ever happen.

GreenSteve.

They are kind of in the DMA. They tend to bounce between the Columbus and Huntington/Charleston tv markets . The Columbus Dispatch staffs Ohio game and the network stations always send crews to bowl games and NCAA tournaments. They are actually covered more by the Columbus market.