Dear ECU Fans,

You won.

Now please slink off back to your own board if all you plan to do is stir up **** in every thread on the BIG EAST board.

Thanks.

(07-05-2012 06:29 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(07-05-2012 04:58 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(07-05-2012 04:46 PM)TeleCoog Wrote:  it seems the urge for revenge among the CUSA and MWC was greater than the desire to create a better system. how to explain their complicity in creating this BCS2.0?

what all the non-BIG, non-PAC, non-SEC, and non-BIGXII conferences should have been pushing for is that SF are played in the host bowls of top two semi-finalists, not this rotating crud among the six historical BCS bowls. that was the only way to do away with the AQ label. the darned BE negotiators were foolishly attempting to maintain the BE's privilege and couldn't see the back stab coming?

Lots more money with the same access they had before which was slim to none. How many CUSA teams have ever made a BCS bowl?

Exactly the point, and it's not exactly like the Big East wanted to work with C-USA or the MWC any other time in history. What goes around comes around. Maybe if Marinara hadn't stood up the MWC and C-USA leaders when they wanted to meet something could have been worked out that would have been mutually beneficial to all, but instead the Big East wanted to just maintain separation and gut both leagues. If you do that don't expect those 2 leagues to then later come to your aid to help you keep your status as a big boy league.

hahahaha Yeah only if we merged with you guys then we would have a seat at the table because we all know that those two conferences have some SERIOUS pull!

If I am the Big East I'm working on the Holiday Bowl and Outback for my eastern- western champs. That could even attract BYU whose bowls destinations are also drying out.
Holiday will now be looking at Big12 at 6th or 7 th place
Outback will now be looking at 5th Big Ten team
Would the BE champ from the east be more attractive?

(07-05-2012 07:25 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(07-05-2012 07:15 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(07-05-2012 07:12 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(07-05-2012 07:04 PM)attackfrog Wrote:  

(07-05-2012 06:29 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Exactly the point, and it's not exactly like the Big East wanted to work with C-USA or the MWC any other time in history. What goes around comes around. Maybe if Marinara hadn't stood up the MWC and C-USA leaders when they wanted to meet something could have been worked out that would have been mutually beneficial to all, but instead the Big East wanted to just maintain separation and gut both leagues. If you do that don't expect those 2 leagues to then later come to your aid to help you keep your status as a big boy league.

Seriously? The Alliance wouldnt have had a BCS seat either. It would have just been a bunch of extra travel, no BCS bid, and a crappy 1.5 million a team TV contract. That would be a pay cut from thier OLD contract. At least this way the Big East teams will earn far more money and the Big East schools can continue to fund facilties, increase staffs, increase thier athletic budgets, and strengthen thier recruiting.

Yeah seriously. Whether or not the full 3 conference alliance would have resulted in anything better isn't the main point I was making. The main point I was making is you can't essentially disrespect 2 commissioners, try to destroy both their leagues, and then expect those leagues to try to do anything to help you. You can call it spite all you want, and in some ways it may have been, but in the end C-USA and the MWC are going to make a little more money than we were making and while access won't be real good it wasn't real good to begin with. Probably as good as we were going to get no matter what so really no incentive to work with the Big East. What goes around comes around.

Actually for the MWC access will be a lot less. You can or get it now about a MWC smelling a BCS bowl. Once the bowl tie ins get restructure you guys will see how much worse it just got for those two leagues.

I couldn't care less about your idle threats about how much worse it got for us. Guess what, it sucks for us. It's always going to suck for us. It's already hit rock bottom for ECU. Our dreams of ever actually reaching a major conference are pretty much dead, and we are about to be in a football league with Charlotte. C-USA was losing the Liberty Bowl no matter what we did in the meetings, so yeah our champions bowl was getting worse no matter what. Every other bowl C-USA has outside of the Liberty Bowl is pretty much trash anyway so honestly who cares it's not like if we worked with you we were going to all of a sudden get much better bowl tie ins. So tell me what mythical benefit we were going to get if we worked with you for you guys to keep your spot with the big boys?

Im not sure it was ever about the Big East keeping thier slot. I think the Big-4 had made up thier mind on that based on comments leading up to the meetings.

I think the non-contract bowl conferences should have pushed for the maximum amount of access possible. Actually, it wouldnt have taken alot more to make the participation of at least one non-AQ team a very common annual event. I suspect just one more BCS bowl, which would provide a total of 4 "at large" slots would have been enough (rather than what appears to be just two "at larges" at this point). Just my opinion.

(07-05-2012 07:51 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  If I am the Big East I'm working on the Holiday Bowl and Outback for my eastern- western champs. That could even attract BYU whose bowls destinations are also drying out.
Holiday will now be looking at Big12 at 6th or 7 th place
Outback will now be looking at 5th Big Ten team
Would the BE champ from the east be more attractive?

Who would those bowls potentially match the Big East champ against?

Since the departure of SMU, UH, UCF, and now Memphis from the CUSA I have out of respect for my past conference mates, not dicussed on the CUSA board, realignment board, nor this board what I think about what is left in CUSA, how much better I think nBE is, or how weak the new CUSA is. Nor do I plan on ever doing that in the future.

However, the way 90% of the ECU fans on all of the forums have acted, especially on this Big East board has caused me to change my opinion of that fanbase. They are the biggest bunch of whiny, butt hurt, %u$$y-a$$, b^t€hes I have ever seen on any forum ever. It is sad really.

At least the USM fans try to be a man about the situation, and are just going to keep doing what they do. Anytime, anyplace, anywhere. Much respect for that group. It may not be reciprocated, but I always considered them our rival since the 1995 season when our game for the championship went into overtime. Then, the Conference Championship Game in 2006, and most recently in 2011.

To all the ECU weak nuts posting in the BE forum....

E A D

Your current situation fits you nicely, you act weak and you shall play in a weak conference.

If you think the nCUSA is anywhere close to the level of the nBE.....

Lol, good luck with that.....



what ever makes you feel warm and toasty.....




***apologies in advance to the resident mods***

^ Pretty much the way I feel, too.

All this banter about the Alliance throwing in with this or that is just speculation.

I rather see the meetings as a massive frat party where the BE is the semi-hot chick that's being cheated on upstairs. Everyone knows it but the chick.

The Alliance is the maid the frat boys borrowed from the Best Western, whose only purpose is to get rid of the sheets.

Doesn't matter how they work it out. The Non big 5 will get screwed royally.

(07-05-2012 08:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:  ^ Pretty much the way I feel, too.

Agreed. I'm finding it increasing difficult to hold my tongue given the seemingly endless snide remarks tossed our way. lol....not exactly a risky prediction----but I suspect that this coming football season is going to be tough on the CUSA boards for the Cougar/Tiger/Mustang/Knights faithful.

I would love to see quotes from the CUSA board a few years ago when ECU thought they were going to be offered a BE invite. I'm sure they weren't so derogatory.

A few years ago, the Big East board was constantly bombarded by two Brokeback Lovers swearing up and down that East Carolina would be the saviors of the league, and that doom would be swift if the Pirates weren't invited.

Now that those two have presumably graduated and opened a wicker furniture shop together, the new generation of East Carolina fans is constantly complaining about perceived disrespect from Meatball, and still predicting doom.

ECU fans are hurting. and should be. The school has done all it can to be in the fold. They can't control invites nor location. Every school who didn't get to move up feels slighted. including current BE schools. Last go round, Uconn, Pitt, Cuse, and Rutgers felt slighted and should have. This time UConn, Rutgers, and louisville feel left behind. Those in CUSA feel the same. Last time UCF moved up, and while we were glad of that, we were upset that the BE FB deal fell apart. For us this time, I am glad we moved up to BE but hate that despite the fact the BE may be better in football, It has slipped to some tweener type league.

If BE can't get a tie in to big 6, hopefully one of them leave open chance for 'highest ranked team still available'.

(07-05-2012 09:27 PM)AusTxPony Wrote:  I would love to see quotes from the CUSA board a few years ago when ECU thought they were going to be offered a BE invite. I'm sure they weren't so derogatory.

It reminds me of the thousands of negative posts Kentucky fans made about Cal when he was at Memphis. He was a combination of Satan and Jerry Tarkanian. Now he's beloved in the Commonwealth.