(09-12-2012 12:30 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  This was driven by the new BCS football play off format which basically cut off Notre Dame's access to the title game.

This helps the PAC 12 and BIG TEN keep their big games with Notre Dame.

Notre Dame plays these opponents every year:

BIG TEN

1. Michigan
2. Michigan State
3. Purdue
4. Stanford
5. Southern California
6. Boston College
7. Navy


The ACC locks up the rest of the 5 games. This helps the ACC but sucks for FSU and Clemson. Basically, Notre Dame agreed to this to get a shot at the four team play off.

This sucks for the ACC if ND has 10-1 or 9-2 season because they will always get the nod for the play off over the ACC Champion unless they happened to play head to head during that season.

The Big 12, BIG TEN, PAC 12 and SEC like this because it damn near locks out the ACC Champion from competing for the National Championship.

A Michigan-Michigan State-USC-Stanford win over ND equates to a win over the ACC. However, a Notre Dame over a Michigan or USC does not equate to an ACC win over the PAC 12 or BIG TEN.

Basically, the best of the Big East moved to the ACC and brought Notre Dame with them with the same deal which destroyed the BIG EAST. CRAZY!!!

The basketball schools have won. FSU and Clemson should be making calls to the Big 12 right now.

ND doesn't play BC every year.

ND's schedule will look like
1-5 ACC
6 Michigan
7 Michigan St
8 Purdue
9 Stanford
10 USC
11 Navy

with 1 game left for flexibility.

The new system did NOTHING to hurt ND at all. If they were 12-0, they would have been in the playoff. PERIOD.

(09-12-2012 12:33 PM)stever20 Wrote:  ND doesn't play BC every year.

ND's schedule will look like
1-5 ACC
6 Michigan
7 Michigan St
8 Purdue
9 Stanford
10 USC
11 Navy

with 1 game left for flexibility.

I suspect that they will rotate Michigan and Purdue to give themselves more flexibility. Maybe skip a couple of years for Mich. St. and Stanford as well. I think the only two games ND is certain to play every single year are U$C and Navy.

(09-12-2012 12:58 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 12:33 PM)stever20 Wrote:  ND doesn't play BC every year.

ND's schedule will look like
1-5 ACC
6 Michigan
7 Michigan St
8 Purdue
9 Stanford
10 USC
11 Navy

with 1 game left for flexibility.

I suspect that they will rotate Michigan and Purdue to give themselves more flexibility. Maybe skip a couple of years for Mich. St. and Stanford as well. I think the only two games ND is certain to play every single year are U$C and Navy.

I'd say Stanford is a guarantee game as well(to guarantee them a west coast game every year).

(09-12-2012 12:30 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I think the BE will survive as the top non-AQ conference(much like what MWC has been).

For the Big 12, I think their days are numbered. In 13 years, if not sooner, we'll see that conference broken up, and the era of the 4 super-conference is upon us. Big 12 made some massive mistakes here this summer and didn't take advantage of the situation.

Nope. We're all good here, but thanks for playing.

I do agree with your point that the Big 12 screwed up this summer. They fiddle farted around with Notre Lame while FSU and Clemson were ready to bolt. There in lies the mistake. Not getting Notre Lame as a leeching member of the Big 12 was NOT a mistake, but a very large blessing.

Navy could be the new Northwestern, which was ND's opener for a long time. In my opinion, ND has to play Navy, MSU, Purdue, and USC every year. I know Stanford is a rather recent mainstay, but other west coast schools could work. Pittsburgh and Boston College will now be ACC games. Michigan, although a great rivalry, is still a pretty recent development.

(09-12-2012 12:18 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 10:46 AM)BewareThePhog Wrote:  Georgetown may be in a market that's already covered, and they may have a small alumni base, but it is a national "brand name" when it comes to basketball.

Same as Boise State in football and Gonzaga in basketball. Georgetown is also a national school; they draw a lot of students from the northeast.

Sure, but Georgetown also happens to be in the Northeast.

(09-10-2012 04:15 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  Dickie V tweeted it earlier today from "ACC Sources". In all honesty thats a pretty decent source

Dickie V twitter

Wow, Dick Vitale broke a HUGE story. Who knew?

(09-12-2012 12:33 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 12:30 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  This was driven by the new BCS football play off format which basically cut off Notre Dame's access to the title game.

This helps the PAC 12 and BIG TEN keep their big games with Notre Dame.

Notre Dame plays these opponents every year:

BIG TEN

1. Michigan
2. Michigan State
3. Purdue
4. Stanford
5. Southern California
6. Boston College
7. Navy


The ACC locks up the rest of the 5 games. This helps the ACC but sucks for FSU and Clemson. Basically, Notre Dame agreed to this to get a shot at the four team play off.

This sucks for the ACC if ND has 10-1 or 9-2 season because they will always get the nod for the play off over the ACC Champion unless they happened to play head to head during that season.

The Big 12, BIG TEN, PAC 12 and SEC like this because it damn near locks out the ACC Champion from competing for the National Championship.

A Michigan-Michigan State-USC-Stanford win over ND equates to a win over the ACC. However, a Notre Dame over a Michigan or USC does not equate to an ACC win over the PAC 12 or BIG TEN.

Basically, the best of the Big East moved to the ACC and brought Notre Dame with them with the same deal which destroyed the BIG EAST. CRAZY!!!

The basketball schools have won. FSU and Clemson should be making calls to the Big 12 right now.

ND doesn't play BC every year.

ND's schedule will look like
1-5 ACC
6 Michigan
7 Michigan St
8 Purdue
9 Stanford
10 USC
11 Navy

with 1 game left for flexibility.

The new system did NOTHING to hurt ND at all. If they were 12-0, they would have been in the playoff. PERIOD.

Notre Dame and Boston College have played each other every year since 1992 through 2012 except in 2005 and 2006. That has pretty much been every year.

(09-12-2012 02:42 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 12:33 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 12:30 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  This was driven by the new BCS football play off format which basically cut off Notre Dame's access to the title game.

This helps the PAC 12 and BIG TEN keep their big games with Notre Dame.

Notre Dame plays these opponents every year:

BIG TEN

1. Michigan
2. Michigan State
3. Purdue
4. Stanford
5. Southern California
6. Boston College
7. Navy


The ACC locks up the rest of the 5 games. This helps the ACC but sucks for FSU and Clemson. Basically, Notre Dame agreed to this to get a shot at the four team play off.

This sucks for the ACC if ND has 10-1 or 9-2 season because they will always get the nod for the play off over the ACC Champion unless they happened to play head to head during that season.

The Big 12, BIG TEN, PAC 12 and SEC like this because it damn near locks out the ACC Champion from competing for the National Championship.

A Michigan-Michigan State-USC-Stanford win over ND equates to a win over the ACC. However, a Notre Dame over a Michigan or USC does not equate to an ACC win over the PAC 12 or BIG TEN.

Basically, the best of the Big East moved to the ACC and brought Notre Dame with them with the same deal which destroyed the BIG EAST. CRAZY!!!

The basketball schools have won. FSU and Clemson should be making calls to the Big 12 right now.

ND doesn't play BC every year.

ND's schedule will look like
1-5 ACC
6 Michigan
7 Michigan St
8 Purdue
9 Stanford
10 USC
11 Navy

with 1 game left for flexibility.

The new system did NOTHING to hurt ND at all. If they were 12-0, they would have been in the playoff. PERIOD.

Notre Dame and Boston College have played each other every year since 1992 through 2012 except in 2005 and 2006. That has pretty much been every year.

And, they're not schedule to play in 2013, 2014, or 2017.

could the increased exit fee be from espn for espn agreeing to up the contract by x dollars?

(09-12-2012 12:33 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 12:30 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  This was driven by the new BCS football play off format which basically cut off Notre Dame's access to the title game.

This helps the PAC 12 and BIG TEN keep their big games with Notre Dame.

Notre Dame plays these opponents every year:

BIG TEN

1. Michigan
2. Michigan State
3. Purdue
4. Stanford
5. Southern California
6. Boston College
7. Navy


The ACC locks up the rest of the 5 games. This helps the ACC but sucks for FSU and Clemson. Basically, Notre Dame agreed to this to get a shot at the four team play off.

This sucks for the ACC if ND has 10-1 or 9-2 season because they will always get the nod for the play off over the ACC Champion unless they happened to play head to head during that season.

The Big 12, BIG TEN, PAC 12 and SEC like this because it damn near locks out the ACC Champion from competing for the National Championship.

A Michigan-Michigan State-USC-Stanford win over ND equates to a win over the ACC. However, a Notre Dame over a Michigan or USC does not equate to an ACC win over the PAC 12 or BIG TEN.

Basically, the best of the Big East moved to the ACC and brought Notre Dame with them with the same deal which destroyed the BIG EAST. CRAZY!!!

The basketball schools have won. FSU and Clemson should be making calls to the Big 12 right now.

ND doesn't play BC every year.

ND's schedule will look like
1-5 ACC
6 Michigan
7 Michigan St
8 Purdue
9 Stanford
10 USC
11 Navy

with 1 game left for flexibility.

The new system did NOTHING to hurt ND at all. If they were 12-0, they would have been in the playoff. PERIOD.

Notre Dame and Boston College have played each other every since 1992 through 2012 except in 2005 and 2006. That has pretty much been every year.

(09-12-2012 03:30 PM)Chris02M Wrote:  could the increased exit fee be from espn for espn agreeing to up the contract by x dollars?

It might be something that ND asked for.

So it is official... the ACC has no backbone, and they have become the new Big East... all bending over backwards and contorting themselves to land prestigious Notre Dame and then the Irish will make sure their marquee is void of the ACC.

Notre Dame won't appear in standings, they will SHOUT from the mountain tops about their FOOTBALL INDEPENDENCE -- and yet they'll have access to ALL the ACC non-BCS bowl slots and even the BCS bowl level -- the Irish have their own Orange Bowl agreement to play opposite the ACC and/or into a playoff slot if they meet the ranking requirements anyway! The ACC is getting hosed worse than the Big East ever did with this arrangement!

FSU chairman of the board has doubts about the enforceability of the ACC's new exit fee. FSU and Maryland voted no. Rumours say NCSU and VT did as well, but FSU chairman didn't mention them.
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