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Very disappointed in the results, but at least the countdown starts today for NOBAMA to be removed .... it's just 4 years longer than desired. I fear for our children's debt! Wish i was worth what i was when Clinton and Bush were President's.. Now my house is worth about 1/2 of what it was the day Nobama took office, my taxes are up about 20% we have had one raise at my company in 4 years, but let's just keep giving to those who don't want to work! I pray for those who want to work but can't find jobs at the near 8% unemployment rate. It was great today to see gas go up 30 cents a gallon this morning after the election...Let's hope the House can do something to protect us....
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(11-07-2012 12:45 PM)Bearcat T Wrote:  Very disappointed in the results, but at least the countdown starts today for NOBAMA to be removed .... it's just 4 years longer than desired. I fear for our children's debt! Wish i was worth what i was when Clinton and Bush were President's.. Now my house is worth about 1/2 of what it was the day Nobama took office, my taxes are up about 20% we have had one raise at my company in 4 years, but let's just keep giving to those who don't want to work! I pray for those who want to work but can't find jobs at the near 8% unemployment rate. It was great today to see gas go up 30 cents a gallon this morning after the election...Let's hope the House can do something to protect us....

Sorry too hear that...

Look man when 89 precent of your votes are from white people you will never win anymore period!..it's a new era dude,as a 26yr old black man that at 18 voted for Bush in 2004 i just didn't see myself ever voting for a guy like Romney..Romney got smoked last night very early and lost big, 50 to 48 and 303 to 206!! What a joke that guy was..
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(11-07-2012 11:06 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(11-07-2012 02:40 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(11-06-2012 11:01 PM)CincyBearcatFan86 Wrote:  4 more years baby :D i am so happy!!!! Romney is a joke and he is about to get killed lol..

4 more years of what? Hipster marxist radical in charge.

I lived in a Marxist country, it cracks me up when right wingers compare Obama to a leftist communist Marxist because they have no idea how silly and outrageous that comment really is.

Romney only has himself to blame for his lost last night, he never presented a clear plan on what he was going to do and his flip flopping on major issues killed his chances to many middle of the road people.
When the Reps realize that there are other Americans in this country that vote that are not just whilte males they will win the Precidensy again.

Your post is right on point.
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(11-07-2012 07:12 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-07-2012 02:20 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  lol...both parties spent a total of over 2 billion to arrive at the same place. Same parties still control each house of congress and the same president still sits in the White House. Next time, why dont we just flip a coin.

That's my reaction, too. Our whole system is broken. The country is more or less divided into thirds (Rep, Dem and Indy) Both parties are useless, spending most of their time and money on getting reelected, and staying in power, and spending us into oblivion, just on different items. About six states make the difference every election. Monumental waste of effort.

Maybe I should move to Colorado. Then I wouldn't worry about it so much. 03-lmfao

Okay, back to sports!!!

Anyone who thinks that our whole system is broken has never lived in a country where the system actually is broken. Through our checks and balances, and our staggered election system (4 yrs for pres, 2 yrs for reps, 6 for senators, lifetime for judges), we have the most stable system in the world that guarantees that no one group can come to dominate the system. We all have to share power, and that's a GOOD thing.

Let's put it this way: if the system was actually broken, you wouldn't see 2/3 of the country staying home during the primary, or 1/2 staying home during the general election. If 15% of those who stayed home during the primary would show up and vote for the same candidate, that candidate would win big time. But they don't show up, because they know that we'll do pretty well either way.

Any argument that they stay home because they'll be screwed either way ignores the fact that we had almost 15 people in the primaries with widely varying points of view. If they all stunk, then that only means that it's not important enough for good candidates to leave the private sector and run for office.
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(11-07-2012 12:45 PM)Bearcat T Wrote:  Very disappointed in the results, but at least the countdown starts today for NOBAMA to be removed .... it's just 4 years longer than desired. I fear for our children's debt! Wish i was worth what i was when Clinton and Bush were President's.. Now my house is worth about 1/2 of what it was the day Nobama took office, my taxes are up about 20% we have had one raise at my company in 4 years, but let's just keep giving to those who don't want to work! I pray for those who want to work but can't find jobs at the near 8% unemployment rate. It was great today to see gas go up 30 cents a gallon this morning after the election...Let's hope the House can do something to protect us....

Unfortunately there is only so much the government can do about our current situation. Putting all that on any president is just ridiculous. America was found on capitalism and we are practicing it. Corporate leaders are under enormous pressure to improve the bottom line there are only two ways to do that and that's increase the revenue or reduce the overall cost. Companies will continue to send jobs overseas because it cost less to produce there right now. It is simple business. The only way USA government can improve the situation is to help fund industries that are unique only to America and promote those industries.

America is changing. Like others said, it will be tough for republicans to win the white house by focusing on white males only. I realize white males have been spoiled since the whole system gave them advantages since the beginning, but times are changing and demographics are changing. Republicans need to appeal to minorities like gays, women, Latinos, Asians and Blacks if they want to have a chance. Putting out white males that are almost carbon copies of each other one after another as candidates won't appeal to big part of the USA population anyone provided they got alternatives.
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(11-07-2012 12:45 PM)Bearcat T Wrote:  Very disappointed in the results, but at least the countdown starts today for NOBAMA to be removed .... it's just 4 years longer than desired. I fear for our children's debt! Wish i was worth what i was when Clinton and Bush were President's.. Now my house is worth about 1/2 of what it was the day Nobama took office, my taxes are up about 20% we have had one raise at my company in 4 years, but let's just keep giving to those who don't want to work! I pray for those who want to work but can't find jobs at the near 8% unemployment rate. It was great today to see gas go up 30 cents a gallon this morning after the election...Let's hope the House can do something to protect us....

1. NOBAMA...that is a hilarious nickname!
2. Debt is due to 3 things: Tax reduction, war in Iraq, war in Afghanistan, not one of those things belongs to Obama.
3.The houding bubble burst before Obama took office and the things that led to it are a direct rsult of Bush policies.
4. The Repub's had control of the presidency, Senate and House for 6 years and almost destroyed the country. We are still paying for their incompetence. You are a blind partisan.
5. I hope my Owls beat your Bearcats just because of you.
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(11-07-2012 02:34 PM)vick-mike Wrote:  
(11-07-2012 12:45 PM)Bearcat T Wrote:  Very disappointed in the results, but at least the countdown starts today for NOBAMA to be removed .... it's just 4 years longer than desired. I fear for our children's debt! Wish i was worth what i was when Clinton and Bush were President's.. Now my house is worth about 1/2 of what it was the day Nobama took office, my taxes are up about 20% we have had one raise at my company in 4 years, but let's just keep giving to those who don't want to work! I pray for those who want to work but can't find jobs at the near 8% unemployment rate. It was great today to see gas go up 30 cents a gallon this morning after the election...Let's hope the House can do something to protect us....

1. NOBAMA...that is a hilarious nickname!
2. Debt is due to 3 things: Tax reduction, war in Iraq, war in Afghanistan, not one of those things belongs to Obama.
3.The houding bubble burst before Obama took office and the things that led to it are a direct rsult of Bush policies.
4. The Repub's had control of the presidency, Senate and House for 6 years and almost destroyed the country. We are still paying for their incompetence. You are a blind partisan.
5. I hope my Owls beat your Bearcats just because of you.

That is wrong. In 2006 The House and Senate belonged to the Dems.
In 2008 they had a super majority. Policies of community reinvestment act,
Freddie Fanny, Dodd, Barney Frank (government forcing banks to make loans they otherwise would never make) was part and parcel of housing bubble. How many times did Bush or McCain warn us? A bunch.

If increasing taxes to pay off the debt then why not go to 55% of income???? Increasing income taxes is very short term solution.
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Let's see.... Unemployment under Bush 4.7% Nobama was at 8.3% when i these came out a month ago.
Gas was 2.26 under Bush Nobama avg 4.00 went down week of election but back up 30 cents today!
17 million unemployed Bush 43 million Nobama... tell me who is better off today than they were 4 to 12 years ago? How do we deal with this growing trillion dollars of debt? It was only 450 billion for Bush and they thought that was bad? I won't even mention the latest mishandling in the Middle East!
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(11-07-2012 02:09 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(11-07-2012 07:12 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-07-2012 02:20 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  lol...both parties spent a total of over 2 billion to arrive at the same place. Same parties still control each house of congress and the same president still sits in the White House. Next time, why dont we just flip a coin.

That's my reaction, too. Our whole system is broken. The country is more or less divided into thirds (Rep, Dem and Indy) Both parties are useless, spending most of their time and money on getting reelected, and staying in power, and spending us into oblivion, just on different items. About six states make the difference every election. Monumental waste of effort.

Maybe I should move to Colorado. Then I wouldn't worry about it so much. 03-lmfao

Okay, back to sports!!!

Anyone who thinks that our whole system is broken has never lived in a country where the system actually is broken. Through our checks and balances, and our staggered election system (4 yrs for pres, 2 yrs for reps, 6 for senators, lifetime for judges), we have the most stable system in the world that guarantees that no one group can come to dominate the system. We all have to share power, and that's a GOOD thing.

Let's put it this way: if the system was actually broken, you wouldn't see 2/3 of the country staying home during the primary, or 1/2 staying home during the general election. If 15% of those who stayed home during the primary would show up and vote for the same candidate, that candidate would win big time. But they don't show up, because they know that we'll do pretty well either way.

Any argument that they stay home because they'll be screwed either way ignores the fact that we had almost 15 people in the primaries with widely varying points of view. If they all stunk, then that only means that it's not important enough for good candidates to leave the private sector and run for office.

The very definition of a system that is broken is a system that is unsustainable. Currently, the US government borrows 40 cents out of every single dollar spent. That is not sustainable.

Currently, Social Security taxes not only cover the current cost of the SS system and Medicare Systems--but they actually run a surplus which offsets some of the budget shortfall. In other words, the budget shortfall could be worse.

However, as the baby boomers begin to retire, thier massive demographic will cause SS and Medicare to go negative. That is a fact that nobody argues. Those programs will no longer add a surplus to the treasury, instead they will require larger and larger subsidies from the general treasury.

Regardless of who did or didnt win last night, the system is most certainly broken. Frankly, this is not even argued by either party. Anyone who thinks it isnt doesnt know all the facts.
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If he pulls this Petrino move, I hope Dykes falls off a motorcycle and into the unemployment line real soon. Coach shouldnt quit on his team midseason.
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The stock market just fell 313 points since the election results....Do we blame that on Bush too?
Let's just say that everything that happened in a negative light during the Nobama 4 years was the direct fault of Bush, then when do we measure Nobama's numbers. Does it start today? last year? two years ago? nesxt year or when? Just so we can keep score? As an American i hope everything goes great for all of us, I just want to know at what point in the 8 yrs is the President accountable for any of the numbers?
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(11-07-2012 02:09 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(11-07-2012 07:12 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-07-2012 02:20 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  lol...both parties spent a total of over 2 billion to arrive at the same place. Same parties still control each house of congress and the same president still sits in the White House. Next time, why dont we just flip a coin.

That's my reaction, too. Our whole system is broken. The country is more or less divided into thirds (Rep, Dem and Indy) Both parties are useless, spending most of their time and money on getting reelected, and staying in power, and spending us into oblivion, just on different items. About six states make the difference every election. Monumental waste of effort.

Maybe I should move to Colorado. Then I wouldn't worry about it so much. 03-lmfao

Okay, back to sports!!!

Anyone who thinks that our whole system is broken has never lived in a country where the system actually is broken. Through our checks and balances, and our staggered election system (4 yrs for pres, 2 yrs for reps, 6 for senators, lifetime for judges), we have the most stable system in the world that guarantees that no one group can come to dominate the system. We all have to share power, and that's a GOOD thing.

Let's put it this way: if the system was actually broken, you wouldn't see 2/3 of the country staying home during the primary, or 1/2 staying home during the general election. If 15% of those who stayed home during the primary would show up and vote for the same candidate, that candidate would win big time. But they don't show up, because they know that we'll do pretty well either way.

Any argument that they stay home because they'll be screwed either way ignores the fact that we had almost 15 people in the primaries with widely varying points of view. If they all stunk, then that only means that it's not important enough for good candidates to leave the private sector and run for office.

Dude, now that you have finished bloviating, I will tell you that you completely misunderstood my post. I meant the money spent on the election was a monumental waste of effort, not actually voting. I voted, Einstein. IMO, it's a duty as a citizen.

And I'm a war vet, too, and I've served overseas and lived in a number of countries, so don't lecture me about how to feel about this country.

And if you don't think our political system needs to be fixed, then I can't possibly help you. We are going to spend ourselves right into third world status, and the two stupid parties in D.C. can't compromise on anything, so the whole damn thing is gridlocked. Meanwhile, they spend the majority of their efforts trying to stay in power and get reelected. If you think that's the way things should be run, then you're part of the problem.

Everybody else, kindly don't respond to anything else I posted in this thread. This is exactly why I stay out of political forums. But I couldn't let those dumbazz comments slide.

Peace.

BACK TO SPORTS!!!!
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(11-07-2012 04:48 PM)Bearcat T Wrote:  The stock market just fell 313 points since the election results....Do we blame that on Bush too?
Let's just say that everything that happened in a negative light during the Nobama 4 years was the direct fault of Bush, then when do we measure Nobama's numbers. Does it start today? last year? two years ago? nesxt year or when? Just so we can keep score? As an American i hope everything goes great for all of us, I just want to know at what point in the 8 yrs is the President accountable for any of the numbers?

Stop crying and also you never had a reply too my 1st reply on you post in pg5
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(11-07-2012 05:03 PM)CincyBearcatFan86 Wrote:  
(11-07-2012 04:48 PM)Bearcat T Wrote:  The stock market just fell 313 points since the election results....Do we blame that on Bush too?
Let's just say that everything that happened in a negative light during the Nobama 4 years was the direct fault of Bush, then when do we measure Nobama's numbers. Does it start today? last year? two years ago? nesxt year or when? Just so we can keep score? As an American i hope everything goes great for all of us, I just want to know at what point in the 8 yrs is the President accountable for any of the numbers?

Stop crying and also you never had a reply too my 1st reply on you post in pg5

So you want someone to reply to one of your posts, but then suggest they can't post what they want or that he is crying? Ask nice, especially from a fellow Bearcat fan, and you might get a response.
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(11-07-2012 05:20 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
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(11-07-2012 04:48 PM)Bearcat T Wrote:  The stock market just fell 313 points since the election results....Do we blame that on Bush too?
Let's just say that everything that happened in a negative light during the Nobama 4 years was the direct fault of Bush, then when do we measure Nobama's numbers. Does it start today? last year? two years ago? nesxt year or when? Just so we can keep score? As an American i hope everything goes great for all of us, I just want to know at what point in the 8 yrs is the President accountable for any of the numbers?

Stop crying and also you never had a reply too my 1st reply on you post in pg5

So you want someone to reply to one of your posts, but then suggest they can't post what they want or that he is crying? Ask nice, especially from a fellow Bearcat fan, and you might get a response.

I hear that mike brown will make a run in 2016
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The markets dropped because of problems in Europe which started over last night.
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Both parties are full of crack heads. The Dems are morons because they refuse to apply practical management to any system they have. You can cut all social programs by at least 50% without decreasing benefits to the people, simply cut poor management and empire building/fiefdoms. If this specter is raised, Dems immediately scream that they will rob the poor (which is idiotic since the poor are being given the benefit). Reps are morons for not actually doing it and letting the people see that nobody is harmed. No increase in taxes needed, apply savings to debt. HMMMM, sounds like what we have to do in our own budgets. But then Obama and Ronmey never had to live on a tight budget, both are spoiled rich kids. (Before any cries Obama's mom was on welfare, remember that she refused her parents money, chose that life and Obama went to private schools most of us could never get into because our families could not afford them, see his books!)
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