(12-03-2012 04:54 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote: (12-03-2012 12:01 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: I can't believe how many people on these boards actually think Boise to P12 is a remote possibility. Boise isn't too far removed from their roots as a community college, only has a handful of doctorate degrees and has under a $100M endowment. They've actually got a trucker school and other vocational programs.
Yeah, that's Pac 12 material right there.
Not that I'm defending Boise, because I don't have a dog in the fight and generally couldn't care less, but where do you see vocational training and truck driver training listed as offerings? I looked after I read your post and maybe I'm missing someting but I don't see that. I work with a curriculum designer/ master training specialist who received his Masters from Boise and he's a pretty sharp fellow and very knowledgeable of the college game and not in an obnoxious way. So, if they do actually have those as offerings I would certainly not let it get past our next meeting without bringing it to his attention, in a good nature'd way. As I said, he's a decent dude so it'd be fun at the very least.
Boise had those programs in the past when they had a "college" that was set up for vocational and community college type training
since then a new community college has opened in Boise and that college was transferred from Boise State to the community college and Boise state has been able to move away from having a technical and vocational training mission
some people don't seem to be intelligent enough to understand that Idaho is a very large state in size with a very small population overall and so they are not going to have 30 different public universities, a community college system in every area of the state, and some vocational only 4 year schools as well
those same people don't seem to realize that Idaho is not broke like many of their states are and part of the reason for that is they did not build 12 public universities that are 6,000 to 8,000 students all trying to offer a large range of classes, plus a bunch of community colleges, and some technical/vocational schools that are all now suffering from lack of funding
Idaho has 3 public universities and a 4 year technical school and several state sponsored community colleges and Idaho State has some branch campuses and Boise started as a Jr College as well and was the school that grew enough to become the third state university
I am not saying that the Boise Academics compare to many or any of the PAC schools, but they have and continue to elevate themselves as their state grows and their budget allows VS being broke and not even knowing it like California and many other states that are slashing education massively yearly
and as for SDSU if it was not for the UC/Cal State PhD and other restrictions made by the "California Plan" in the 60s they would probably be extremely competitive with several Pac 12 schools if not better and they are extremely competitive as a university now research and education wise, but they lack the ability to offer anything but a very few PhD or Doctoral or professional degrees and that holds them back greatly
at this point it is probably a moot point for the state of California overall because they are broke and will not be funding any school to elevate themselves especially CSU schools, but if SDSU would be even better with just a part of the funding the UC schools get and with the ability to offer PhDs.....the same can be said for Cal Ploy as well and Fresno and SJSU as well