http://news.latech.edu/2012/12/05/statem...dan-reneau


"I want to make one thing very clear to the entire Louisiana Tech Family. At the conclusion of my review and armed with the facts I’ve amassed, I will take the necessary steps and actions to ensure this situation never happens again. I will not allow the integrity of our institution and the reputation of our athletics program to be put at risk, in any way, shape or form. Protecting Louisiana Tech University is of the highest order and is not negotiable."

Sounds like our president may be getting ready to take it to the Liberty bowl for lying to our AD and costing us a bowl spot.

Our AD and the WAC Commish have both said, repeatedly, that the Liberty Bowl Exec said "We are going to take LaTech regardless of who's available tomorrow" Then turned around and took ISU. I haven't seen any rebuttal or denial from Liberty Bowl of their claims and if true I hope the NCAA hangs 'em for it.

I'm no attorney, but as Judge Wapner used to say, "Did you get it in writing?" If not, I doubt there is much recourse.

(12-05-2012 03:41 PM)MondoMiner Wrote:  I'm no attorney, but as Judge Wapner used to say, "Did you get it in writing?" If not, I doubt there is much recourse.

No doubt verbal agreements are harder to enforce/pursue, but maybe we can make them sweat. Also NCAA doesn't have to go through legal channels, they can enforce what they want, when they want, since these bowls operate by their consent/approval.

Boy I know Reneau can't wait till the end of June

It sounds like the bowls played La Tech as a back up plan and the AD let it happen. Nobody to blame but himself.

Let me say first that organizations should follow up their "word" with doing what they said they would do. I'm not doubting what the WAC commish or LTU AD is saying, but none of us yet know exactly what was actually said or what was said in any follow-up conversations.....and we may never know. Lots of black eyes to go around the table in this.

Promissory Estoppel! Detrimental Reliance! (Yes, I just got out of a contracts final).

If you were to be invited no matter what, why weren't you invited at that point? Why wait? Oh I think I know why, probably because they were looking for another school.

(12-05-2012 05:02 PM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  If you were to be invited no matter what, why weren't you invited at that point? Why wait? Oh I think I know why, probably because they were looking for another school.

You guys act like a bunch of inmates who have waited years and years to shank the prison guard.

(12-05-2012 05:01 PM)texd Wrote:  Promissory Estoppel! Detrimental Reliance! (Yes, I just got out of a contracts final).

I had a flashback. I hope your contracts prof is better than mine was.

(12-05-2012 05:37 PM)gata_dawg Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 05:02 PM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  If you were to be invited no matter what, why weren't you invited at that point? Why wait? Oh I think I know why, probably because they were looking for another school.

You guys act like a bunch of inmates who have waited years and years to shank the prison guard.

We're going to invite you no matter what...just not right now. LT got treated by the Liberty Bowl just like they treated the Independence Bowl.

"We'll get back to you, just wait."

(12-05-2012 05:50 PM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 05:37 PM)gata_dawg Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 05:02 PM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  If you were to be invited no matter what, why weren't you invited at that point? Why wait? Oh I think I know why, probably because they were looking for another school.

You guys act like a bunch of inmates who have waited years and years to shank the prison guard.

We're going to invite you no matter what...just not right now. LT got treated by the Liberty Bowl just like they treated the Independence Bowl.

"We'll get back to you, just wait."

I don't think we told the Indy bowl we'd accept their offer no matter what. I think we were honest with them about exploring our options.

(12-05-2012 05:57 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 05:50 PM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 05:37 PM)gata_dawg Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 05:02 PM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  If you were to be invited no matter what, why weren't you invited at that point? Why wait? Oh I think I know why, probably because they were looking for another school.

You guys act like a bunch of inmates who have waited years and years to shank the prison guard.

We're going to invite you no matter what...just not right now. LT got treated by the Liberty Bowl just like they treated the Independence Bowl.

"We'll get back to you, just wait."

I don't think we told the Indy bowl we'd accept their offer no matter what. I think we were honest with them about exploring our options.

It honestly doesn't make sense to say "I'll take you no matter what". They would have the invite if that was the case.

The AD should be fired for that stunt.

(12-05-2012 06:03 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 05:57 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 05:50 PM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 05:37 PM)gata_dawg Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 05:02 PM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  If you were to be invited no matter what, why weren't you invited at that point? Why wait? Oh I think I know why, probably because they were looking for another school.

You guys act like a bunch of inmates who have waited years and years to shank the prison guard.

We're going to invite you no matter what...just not right now. LT got treated by the Liberty Bowl just like they treated the Independence Bowl.

"We'll get back to you, just wait."

I don't think we told the Indy bowl we'd accept their offer no matter what. I think we were honest with them about exploring our options.

It honestly doesn't make sense to say "I'll take you no matter what". They would have the invite if that was the case.

The AD should be fired for that stunt.

And hopefully soon!

(12-05-2012 06:32 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 06:03 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 05:57 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 05:50 PM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 05:37 PM)gata_dawg Wrote:  You guys act like a bunch of inmates who have waited years and years to shank the prison guard.

We're going to invite you no matter what...just not right now. LT got treated by the Liberty Bowl just like they treated the Independence Bowl.

"We'll get back to you, just wait."

I don't think we told the Indy bowl we'd accept their offer no matter what. I think we were honest with them about exploring our options.

It honestly doesn't make sense to say "I'll take you no matter what". They would have the invite if that was the case.

The AD should be fired for that stunt.

And hopefully soon!

Dr. R is fixing to take some scalps. Rightfully so because its alright for the fan base to reflect arrogance and elite attitudes b ut when that is reflected in decisions made by university OFFICIALS its over the line.

(12-05-2012 06:51 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 06:32 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 06:03 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 05:57 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 05:50 PM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  We're going to invite you no matter what...just not right now. LT got treated by the Liberty Bowl just like they treated the Independence Bowl.

"We'll get back to you, just wait."

I don't think we told the Indy bowl we'd accept their offer no matter what. I think we were honest with them about exploring our options.

It honestly doesn't make sense to say "I'll take you no matter what". They would have the invite if that was the case.

The AD should be fired for that stunt.

And hopefully soon!

Dr. R is fixing to take some scalps. Rightfully so because its alright for the fan base to reflect arrogance and elite attitudes b ut when that is reflected in decisions made by university OFFICIALS its over the line.

Good post EE and I agree but would also add that our AD is pretty damm stupid as well.

(12-05-2012 07:15 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 06:51 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 06:32 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 06:03 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 05:57 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  I don't think we told the Indy bowl we'd accept their offer no matter what. I think we were honest with them about exploring our options.

It honestly doesn't make sense to say "I'll take you no matter what". They would have the invite if that was the case.

The AD should be fired for that stunt.

And hopefully soon!

Dr. R is fixing to take some scalps. Rightfully so because its alright for the fan base to reflect arrogance and elite attitudes b ut when that is reflected in decisions made by university OFFICIALS its over the line.

Good post EE and I agree but would also add that our AD is pretty damm stupid as well.

Your AD is a university official. I have had my little disagreements with the Tech nation but in this situation must agree that they were really sold out by an insider. Now, I will retract that statement if there is any proof forthcoming from the WAC commissioner or anyone else to confirm the Lib Bowl DID tell them Tech would get an invite regardless. So far, no one has come forth, have not heard from WAC comm nor Lib folks.

(12-05-2012 05:01 PM)texd Wrote:  Promissory Estoppel! Detrimental Reliance! (Yes, I just got out of a contracts final).

Was Hewlett Packard/Oracle a case in point?

Dang, what is this world coming to?!?!? Eager Eagle taking up for Tech?. I am shocked!

(12-06-2012 09:43 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  Dang, what is this world coming to?!?!? Eager Eagle taking up for Tech?. I am shocked!

If the Lib bowl told the Tech AD, orally or in writing that Tech would be invited regardless, and witnessed by the WAC comm then that is a legal contract which should have been honored. I would support any school under those circumstances. I am, however, wondering why the Lib bowl or WAC comm hasnt come forward and elaborated. There were three parties involved which included Tech AD, Lib Bowl, and WAC comm. The only one we have heard from or who tells this story in the Tech AD. Wonder why the delay.