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Tulsa World: MWC looking at expanding with Tulsa and either UTEP or Rice
Conference realignment
The University of Tulsa soon may be at the center of yet another wave of conference-realignment speculation.

It is believed the 10-team Mountain West Conference is considering the addition of two schools, and it's believed TU is viewed as an attractive commodity. A source close to the situation indicated the Mountain West also is examining the viability of UTEP and Rice, but that only one of those schools would be invited if expansion occurs.

UTEP vs. Rice?
12-06-2012 03:42 PM
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RE: Tulsa World: MWC looking at expanding with Tulsa and either UTEP or Rice
Since market is the driver look for Rice. Common sense says UTEP. I said in another thread they should go 14 with Tulsa, Rice, UTSA & UTEP.
12-06-2012 03:46 PM
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RE: Tulsa World: MWC looking at expanding with Tulsa and either UTEP or Rice
The sunbelt will be finished if that happens.
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RE: Tulsa World: MWC looking at expanding with Tulsa and either UTEP or Rice
(12-06-2012 03:46 PM)eagleriffic Wrote:  Since market is the driver look for Rice. Common sense says UTEP. I said in another thread they should go 14 with Tulsa, Rice, UTSA & UTEP.

This. CUSA should be out of Texas period.
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RE: Tulsa World: MWC looking at expanding with Tulsa and either UTEP or Rice
WTF? Great two more good bball schools leave. Can we go with?
12-06-2012 03:50 PM
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RE: Tulsa World: MWC looking at expanding with Tulsa and either UTEP or Rice
(12-06-2012 03:48 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  The sunbelt will be finished if that happens.

Not necessarily. I wish Bano would think outside of the box for the next additions. You're only going to get so much from football at this point and I think CUSA has tapped out in that regard. Bano has got to add quality and not just TV markets.
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Please don't leave us here.....
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RE: Tulsa World: MWC looking at expanding with Tulsa and either UTEP or Rice
(12-06-2012 03:48 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(12-06-2012 03:46 PM)eagleriffic Wrote:  Since market is the driver look for Rice. Common sense says UTEP. I said in another thread they should go 14 with Tulsa, Rice, UTSA & UTEP.

This. CUSA should be out of Texas period.

Show me the money and I'll tell you if they stay or go...
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RE: Tulsa World: MWC looking at expanding with Tulsa and either UTEP or Rice
(12-06-2012 03:46 PM)eagleriffic Wrote:  Since market is the driver look for Rice. Common sense says UTEP. I said in another thread they should go 14 with Tulsa, Rice, UTSA & UTEP.

I have to agree. Expansion is about markets. Rice and Tulsa going and leaving UTEP behind is UTEP's worst nightmare. No SMU, Houston, Tulsa or Rice. That would truly suck. UNT and UTSA are fine but we have next to no history with them.
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(12-06-2012 03:50 PM)Blazer88 Wrote:  WTF? Great two more good bball schools leave.

Get Western Kentucky and whoever and the problem will be solved.
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RE: Tulsa World: MWC looking at expanding with Tulsa and either UTEP or Rice
Right now, it's hard to say how serious this scenario is. Seems like speculation. That said, I would think that UTEP would be a little better geographic fit.

Sometimes I think there is going to be so much re-alignment and conference shuffling that we will get back to the same 12 teams that are in C-USA since 2005. Who knows?
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RE: Tulsa World: MWC looking at expanding with Tulsa and either UTEP or Rice
(12-06-2012 03:53 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  
(12-06-2012 03:46 PM)eagleriffic Wrote:  Since market is the driver look for Rice. Common sense says UTEP. I said in another thread they should go 14 with Tulsa, Rice, UTSA & UTEP.

I have to agree. Expansion is about markets. Rice and Tulsa going and leaving UTEP behind is UTEP's worst nightmare. No SMU, Houston, Tulsa or Rice. That would truly suck. UNT and UTSA are fine but we have next to no history with them.

I guarantee you UTEP will not be left behind.
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RE: Tulsa World: MWC looking at expanding with Tulsa and either UTEP or Rice
(12-06-2012 03:50 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(12-06-2012 03:48 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  The sunbelt will be finished if that happens.

Not necessarily. I wish Bano would think outside of the box for the next additions. You're only going to get so much from football at this point and I think CUSA has tapped out in that regard. Bano has got to add quality and not just TV markets.

What do you suggest? Arkansas St and WKU are locks IMO if those four leave. Where would you go after that? To the MAC? I would love to pick off the top tier of the MAC, but I'm afraid they won't leave unless someone big comes calling. Right now, I don't even think most of them would leave for the BE. Not because they'd wouldn't get huge TV deals in the BE or more bowl berths, because they would. They just don't care. It's not what matters to them.

So, stay at 12 in that scenario?

East
Marshall
ODU
Charlotte
UAB
FAU
FIU

West
USM
LaTech
Arky St
MTSU
WKU
UNT

Sorry new guys, but that doesn't look very attractive in any way.
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RE: Tulsa World: MWC looking at expanding with Tulsa and either UTEP or Rice
(12-06-2012 03:56 PM)herdfan2013 Wrote:  
(12-06-2012 03:50 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(12-06-2012 03:48 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  The sunbelt will be finished if that happens.

Not necessarily. I wish Bano would think outside of the box for the next additions. You're only going to get so much from football at this point and I think CUSA has tapped out in that regard. Bano has got to add quality and not just TV markets.

What do you suggest? Arkansas St and WKU are locks IMO if those four leave. Where would you go after that? To the MAC? I would love to pick off the top tier of the MAC, but I'm afraid they won't leave unless someone big comes calling. Right now, I don't even think most of them would leave for the BE. Not because they'd wouldn't get huge TV deals in the BE or more bowl berths, because they would. They just don't care. It's not what matters to them.

So, stay at 12 in that scenario?

East
Marshall
ODU
Charlotte
UAB
FAU
FIU

West
USM
LaTech
Arky St
MTSU
WKU
UNT

Sorry new guys, but that doesn't look very attractive in any way.

WTF has happened to us?
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(12-06-2012 03:57 PM)Blazer88 Wrote:  
(12-06-2012 03:56 PM)herdfan2013 Wrote:  
(12-06-2012 03:50 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(12-06-2012 03:48 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  The sunbelt will be finished if that happens.

Not necessarily. I wish Bano would think outside of the box for the next additions. You're only going to get so much from football at this point and I think CUSA has tapped out in that regard. Bano has got to add quality and not just TV markets.

What do you suggest? Arkansas St and WKU are locks IMO if those four leave. Where would you go after that? To the MAC? I would love to pick off the top tier of the MAC, but I'm afraid they won't leave unless someone big comes calling. Right now, I don't even think most of them would leave for the BE. Not because they'd wouldn't get huge TV deals in the BE or more bowl berths, because they would. They just don't care. It's not what matters to them.

So, stay at 12 in that scenario?

East
Marshall
ODU
Charlotte
UAB
FAU
FIU

West
USM
LaTech
Arky St
MTSU
WKU
UNT

Sorry new guys, but that doesn't look very attractive in any way.

WTF has happened to us?
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I really wish this would hurry and get done.

The waiting is killing me.

I think its fair to CUSA to get this behind them and try and come up with the best possible options.

Texas State and ULL are my choices.
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(12-06-2012 03:48 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(12-06-2012 03:46 PM)eagleriffic Wrote:  Since market is the driver look for Rice. Common sense says UTEP. I said in another thread they should go 14 with Tulsa, Rice, UTSA & UTEP.

This. CUSA should be out of Texas period.

BB will never let that happen.
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Nor should he.

Texas State is going to end up being a monster if you ask me.

Have any of you ever been to San Marcos? Its basically heaven.
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UTEP should go, but not Tulsa. They would want to come back eventually. You have to think long term.
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(12-06-2012 04:25 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  UTEP should go, but not Tulsa. They would want to come back eventually. You have to think long term.

Come back to what? This?

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