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RE: This is why CUSA Commish BBanowsky should be publicly flogged....
What can BB change about Houston, Memphis, UCF and ECU all believing they were each better than every other school in the conference? Each one would have left at the first invitation that offered $5.00/ year. All you hear from their fan posts was how much they deserved the invites. I don't blame Houston, UCF and Memphis at the time it looked like a better deal. The superiority B.S. was better left unsaid, but still. By the time ECU joined the bloom was gone. They all thought they deserved better than the rest of us offered. Using the adds as an excuse not to come back is B.S.; just more superiority. In the end the MWC is likely to expand to 16. If CUSA loses Tulsa and UTEP and we re-invite Memphis, UCF, ECU and Tulane guess what... we are at 16 also. The nBe without Boise, SDSU, Houston and SMU is not in a position of power as long; as Cincy and UConn want out so badly. The nCUSA looks far more stable at that point, and I would venture the TV $'s would be close.
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RE: This is why CUSA Commish BBanowsky should be publicly flogged....
(12-24-2012 12:56 PM)77Herd11 Wrote:  What can BB change about Houston, Memphis, UCF and ECU all believing they were each better than every other school in the conference? Each one would have left at the first invitation that offered $5.00/ year. All you hear from their fan posts was how much they deserved the invites. I don't blame Houston, UCF and Memphis at the time it looked like a better deal. The superiority B.S. was better left unsaid, but still. By the time ECU joined the bloom was gone. They all thought they deserved better than the rest of us offered. Using the adds as an excuse not to come back is B.S.; just more superiority. In the end the MWC is likely to expand to 16. If CUSA loses Tulsa and UTEP and we re-invite Memphis, UCF, ECU and Tulane guess what... we are at 16 also. The nBe without Boise, SDSU, Houston and SMU is not in a position of power as long; as Cincy and UConn want out so badly. The nCUSA looks far more stable at that point, and I would venture the TV $'s would be close.

The first bolded comment is 100% true and nothing good ever comes from "talking down" to anyone here. Reality is that it's happened both ways in the discussions over the past few months.

Regarding the second; the only programs from midlevel conferences that I can say deserved to move "up" were Louisville because of the hard work they did over a decade or more to build a budget larger than any of ours and Boise St because of their consistent superior performance on the football field. Perhaps TCU also falls in that category also. I honestly can't think of another program that "deserved" something better than where they were. Many worked hard and moved up, but I'm not sure that "deserved" fits.
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RE: This is why CUSA Commish BBanowsky should be publicly flogged....
(12-23-2012 08:29 AM)Cnelson203 Wrote:  I get the arguments, but let's not be so hasty to crucify Banowsky.

Consider what in "implosion" of the big east means. Presume Houston and Smu go west and UCOnn and Cincy go ACC. (I'm just considering schools already announced as leaving. That leaves a BIg East with

USF
Temple
UCF
ECU
Memphis
Tulane
Navy ...maybe, maybe not.

Don't you think it MUCH more likely that the BE invites Tulsa, USM, Marshall, UAB, Rice to form an even better Big East, rather than come crawling back? If you believe that more likely, then you can understand Barnowsky's strategy, like it or not.

Again tell me why any school is going to shell out around 10-12 million dollars to have the same access as they have now. Better yet besides Rice show me where the universities are going to come up with the 10-12 million dollars to do so....
12-24-2012 01:11 PM
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RE: This is why CUSA Commish BBanowsky should be publicly flogged....
(12-24-2012 01:11 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(12-23-2012 08:29 AM)Cnelson203 Wrote:  I get the arguments, but let's not be so hasty to crucify Banowsky.

Consider what in "implosion" of the big east means. Presume Houston and Smu go west and UCOnn and Cincy go ACC. (I'm just considering schools already announced as leaving. That leaves a BIg East with

USF
Temple
UCF
ECU
Memphis
Tulane
Navy ...maybe, maybe not.

Don't you think it MUCH more likely that the BE invites Tulsa, USM, Marshall, UAB, Rice to form an even better Big East, rather than come crawling back? If you believe that more likely, then you can understand Barnowsky's strategy, like it or not.

Again tell me why any school is going to shell out around 10-12 million dollars to have the same access as they have now. Better yet besides Rice show me where the universities are going to come up with the 10-12 million dollars to do so....

I don't think we'd have any issue with the money.
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RE: This is why CUSA Commish BBanowsky should be publicly flogged....
(12-24-2012 01:10 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  
(12-24-2012 12:56 PM)77Herd11 Wrote:  What can BB change about Houston, Memphis, UCF and ECU all believing they were each better than every other school in the conference? Each one would have left at the first invitation that offered $5.00/ year. All you hear from their fan posts was how much they deserved the invites. I don't blame Houston, UCF and Memphis at the time it looked like a better deal. The superiority B.S. was better left unsaid, but still. By the time ECU joined the bloom was gone. They all thought they deserved better than the rest of us offered. Using the adds as an excuse not to come back is B.S.; just more superiority. In the end the MWC is likely to expand to 16. If CUSA loses Tulsa and UTEP and we re-invite Memphis, UCF, ECU and Tulane guess what... we are at 16 also. The nBe without Boise, SDSU, Houston and SMU is not in a position of power as long; as Cincy and UConn want out so badly. The nCUSA looks far more stable at that point, and I would venture the TV $'s would be close.

The first bolded comment is 100% true and nothing good ever comes from "talking down" to anyone here. Reality is that it's happened both ways in the discussions over the past few months.

Regarding the second; the only programs from midlevel conferences that I can say deserved to move "up" were Louisville because of the hard work they did over a decade or more to build a budget larger than any of ours and Boise St because of their consistent superior performance on the football field. Perhaps TCU also falls in that category also. I honestly can't think of another program that "deserved" something better than where they were. Many worked hard and moved up, but I'm not sure that "deserved" fits.

I understand what you are saying about the use of the word "deserves", with its implications that certain schools are "owed" something, or there's some moral dimension at work.

No school is owed anything.

As a Tiger fan though, I think Memphis basketball--certainly not its football--has for more years than not played at a level better than most in CUSA. For Memphis, the move to the nBE was based on its fans' belief that its program could be better served playing nationally recognized basketball programs. That doesn't mean the sports gods decided we "deserved" it.

At least for 1 season, it appears that will probably happen.
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RE: This is why CUSA Commish BBanowsky should be publicly flogged....
(12-24-2012 01:10 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  
(12-24-2012 12:56 PM)77Herd11 Wrote:  What can BB change about Houston, Memphis, UCF and ECU all believing they were each better than every other school in the conference? Each one would have left at the first invitation that offered $5.00/ year. All you hear from their fan posts was how much they deserved the invites. I don't blame Houston, UCF and Memphis at the time it looked like a better deal. The superiority B.S. was better left unsaid, but still. By the time ECU joined the bloom was gone. They all thought they deserved better than the rest of us offered. Using the adds as an excuse not to come back is B.S.; just more superiority. In the end the MWC is likely to expand to 16. If CUSA loses Tulsa and UTEP and we re-invite Memphis, UCF, ECU and Tulane guess what... we are at 16 also. The nBe without Boise, SDSU, Houston and SMU is not in a position of power as long; as Cincy and UConn want out so badly. The nCUSA looks far more stable at that point, and I would venture the TV $'s would be close.

The first bolded comment is 100% true and nothing good ever comes from "talking down" to anyone here. Reality is that it's happened both ways in the discussions over the past few months.

Regarding the second; the only programs from midlevel conferences that I can say deserved to move "up" were Louisville because of the hard work they did over a decade or more to build a budget larger than any of ours and Boise St because of their consistent superior performance on the football field. Perhaps TCU also falls in that category also. I honestly can't think of another program that "deserved" something better than where they were. Many worked hard and moved up, but I'm not sure that "deserved" fits.

Agreed. My use of "deserved", though actually used by some posters, was a bit of sarcasm. I understand the excitement that comes when good things happen to the programs we love. We hope everyone would view our schools in the same light we do. After all "we" participate in college athletics also; "we" to have traditions, history, successes, failures, tragedy and passion. The major schools do hold a monopoly on these things. ALL the Gof5 schools are viewed as lesser by the big guys.
I understand everyone is trying to position themselves in the best way to achieve the "at large" bid to FB playoff, but I believe the current structure is only going to create further separation between us and them. I think it is designed to do so. We will return to something similar to the way things were before scholarship limits. Just saying.
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