(12-22-2012 09:58 PM)monty Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 09:54 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 08:22 PM)maccoog Wrote:  Serious question, I thought Boise and SDSU were cliqued up. It seems most of the venom about the latest rumors are coming from SDSU fans. Is there a history of bad blood there?

No, there is no real history between SDSU and Boise. I thought all the bad blood was between SDSU and BYU. But Monty seems hell bent on creating some bad blood between the fans of Boise and SDSU. Or at least between the fans of Boise and Monty!!! Personally, I don't get it.

Because I don't think that story is created out of the ether and in fact think it is obvious that is what every story has pointed to the last couple days?

So what will be your comments if the story proves to be false?

(12-22-2012 10:00 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 09:58 PM)monty Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 09:54 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 08:22 PM)maccoog Wrote:  Serious question, I thought Boise and SDSU were cliqued up. It seems most of the venom about the latest rumors are coming from SDSU fans. Is there a history of bad blood there?

No, there is no real history between SDSU and Boise. I thought all the bad blood was between SDSU and BYU. But Monty seems hell bent on creating some bad blood between the fans of Boise and SDSU. Or at least between the fans of Boise and Monty!!! Personally, I don't get it.

Because I don't think that story is created out of the ether and in fact think it is obvious that is what every story has pointed to the last couple days?

So what will be your comments if the story proves to be false?

What would you like them to be?

what should be the concern is boise has waited this long to explore this option. The Big East has essentially staked it's entire future football existence on boise. this was a marriage of convenience and had strings attached. should boise decide to check out, you may as well formally dissolve the conference. The western expansion no longer would make sense, and it would be far too late to find a replacement of equal stature (if there are any that is).

not that my opinion matters to these negotiations or with this group, but I think its in the remaining schools best interests that boise stays in the mountain west. that would provide the impetus for the current big east teams to dissolve and recombine into an all sports conference. if it gets us to that super conference model faster do it. With the bowl situation as it lies now it probably would provide the longest period of conference stability i believe we would ever see.

(12-22-2012 10:02 PM)monty Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 10:00 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 09:58 PM)monty Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 09:54 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 08:22 PM)maccoog Wrote:  Serious question, I thought Boise and SDSU were cliqued up. It seems most of the venom about the latest rumors are coming from SDSU fans. Is there a history of bad blood there?

No, there is no real history between SDSU and Boise. I thought all the bad blood was between SDSU and BYU. But Monty seems hell bent on creating some bad blood between the fans of Boise and SDSU. Or at least between the fans of Boise and Monty!!! Personally, I don't get it.

Because I don't think that story is created out of the ether and in fact think it is obvious that is what every story has pointed to the last couple days?

So what will be your comments if the story proves to be false?

What would you like them to be?

Well, if time proves the story to be false, being honest that you over-reacted to a BS story would be a good start!

(12-22-2012 10:08 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 10:02 PM)monty Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 10:00 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 09:58 PM)monty Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 09:54 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  No, there is no real history between SDSU and Boise. I thought all the bad blood was between SDSU and BYU. But Monty seems hell bent on creating some bad blood between the fans of Boise and SDSU. Or at least between the fans of Boise and Monty!!! Personally, I don't get it.

Because I don't think that story is created out of the ether and in fact think it is obvious that is what every story has pointed to the last couple days?

So what will be your comments if the story proves to be false?

What would you like them to be?

Well, if time proves the story to be false, being honest that you over-reacted to a BS story would be a good start!

If you have ever known me on any of these message boards, I will gladly admit I was wrong. Hell, particularly in this case - being wrong would be beneficial to my Alma Mater.

(12-22-2012 10:09 PM)monty Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 10:08 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 10:02 PM)monty Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 10:00 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 09:58 PM)monty Wrote:  Because I don't think that story is created out of the ether and in fact think it is obvious that is what every story has pointed to the last couple days?

So what will be your comments if the story proves to be false?

What would you like them to be?

Well, if time proves the story to be false, being honest that you over-reacted to a BS story would be a good start!

If you have ever known me on any of these message boards, I will gladly admit I was wrong. Hell, particularly in this case - being wrong would be beneficial to my Alma Mater.

And so will I if they end up being true. But I'll be very disappointed if they do!!!

(12-22-2012 07:00 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Boise has value, but not enough value to make that deal worth it.

For both conferences. Kustra is an egomaniac that is over the top. The MWC won't agree to this as it takes away dollars from the teams who have to visit Boise. You are welcome to have them.

it seems boise has taken it's ball and gone home.

Boise had a rebuilding year after losing so many players last season and only behind Alabama as to the number who went in the NFL. Despite this, Boise finished the season 11-2 with their win over PAC-12 Washington in their Bowl game.

Boise has had 3 strong recruiting classes and I see Boise still being the dominate "Group-5" team. This means you want to be in the same conference as Boise because the conference with Boise has a high probability for having the highest ranked team which gets the automatic-bid for the money game. It does somewhere down the line get down to, "Who won the game"?

I have no Idea if the stories are true or false. If they are true the conf that wins may well end up the bigger loser.

(12-22-2012 09:58 PM)monty Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 09:54 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 08:22 PM)maccoog Wrote:  Serious question, I thought Boise and SDSU were cliqued up. It seems most of the venom about the latest rumors are coming from SDSU fans. Is there a history of bad blood there?

No, there is no real history between SDSU and Boise. I thought all the bad blood was between SDSU and BYU. But Monty seems hell bent on creating some bad blood between the fans of Boise and SDSU. Or at least between the fans of Boise and Monty!!! Personally, I don't get it.

Because I don't think that story is created out of the ether and in fact think it is obvious that is what every story has pointed to the last couple days?

Yeah there is no way this is just made up. Somebody is talking. And the restructuring MWC CBS deal at the same time is too strange a coincidence. Boise is definitely trying to leverage a sweetheart deal. There will be real animosity as a result. This doesn't even work when ND and Texas try it. If Boise pulls it off, it will help in the short run and doom them in the long run.

For those of us eastern teams who have been together since the Metro, think: not even Louisville pulled this. Not even Louisville. They threw their weight around in a short sighted way that screwed us all, but they never pulled this.

Regarding the hub bub about BSU... Nebraska and Miami fans will tell you, no one keeps it going forever... then BSU will be back to being just a small idaho school. Not meant to be an insult, just a truth.

I wonder how much of this is BSU wanting to make sure they can maintain the 0-2 loss seasons going as long as possible? They will have a FAR easier path in these MWC scenarios than they would have with the national BE. Far easier. that can come back to haunt, when it comes to playoff selection. SOS was a big reason they were heading east anyway. Yeah, I know the BE had all those defections... but look at the 2014 BE versus the planned MWC...

(12-22-2012 06:46 PM)maccoog Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 06:40 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Boise is the flavor of the month, They are a bad coaching move away from not mattering for a very long time. Unlike most real big time programs they don't have a huge city, and or alum base to carry them through rough times. Peterson leaves and they become a 7-5 type program for 4 to 5 years they will be off the radar screen.

Why do we turn on each other with every rumor that floats out of the internet? Boise has built a brand that many are interested in. No need to throw rocks just because of some unnamed source internet rumors.

No throwing rocks, but they have had a great run, that is different than being a great program. Reaching the top rung is hard, staying there is even harder. Even the Oh states, an UF's of the world have a tough time staying a top 10 type program. It will be much harder for Boise to do it. Is it Possible?? yes. Probable?? No.

(12-22-2012 10:52 PM)Bull Wrote:  Regarding the hub bub about BSU... Nebraska and Miami fans will tell you, no one keeps it going forever... then BSU will be back to being just a small idaho school. Not meant to be an insult, just a truth.

I wonder how much of this is BSU wanting to make sure they can maintain the 0-2 loss seasons going as long as possible? They will have a FAR easier path in these MWC scenarios than they would have with the national BE. Far easier.

You guys were campaigning for a ACC invite right? Try not to over react to stories that are unconfirmed.

Little Boise needs to grow up and pick a conference. At least that is what it feels like to be a fan of another school.

The minute they stop winning in football they become a huge liability. Maybe they know this is their best chance to make money on their current landscape of college football. If Cincinnati, UConn, SDSU, Memphis, Temple, UNLV, USF, UCF, and Houston start stinking up the joint in football at least some of them great basketball and all of them have large markets.

Boise State has football, good football, maybe great football.

(12-22-2012 10:54 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 10:52 PM)Bull Wrote:  Regarding the hub bub about BSU... Nebraska and Miami fans will tell you, no one keeps it going forever... then BSU will be back to being just a small idaho school. Not meant to be an insult, just a truth.

I wonder how much of this is BSU wanting to make sure they can maintain the 0-2 loss seasons going as long as possible? They will have a FAR easier path in these MWC scenarios than they would have with the national BE. Far easier.

You guys were campaigning for a ACC invite right? Try not to over react to stories that are unconfirmed.

To be honest, schools like RU, Uconn, even LV and Cinci 'campaigned' in a very public fashion. (WVU was KING of this offense) Which I found disgusting. No one should diss their current conference in public. If schools like USF and UCF did advocate for the ACC, they at least did it behind closed doors. Its true though, everyone in the BE wants that ticket.

I generally agree we should not over react to media rumors, but this one seems to have a LOT of smoke associated with it. BSU has always been class though. I guess we'll see what happens.

boise buzz won't die because they have a bad season. if their coach left and they made an asinine hire then they could take a dive. the truth is, however, that those orange and blue colors and that blue field are recognizable...bought and paid for with quality seasons.

i think boise has been on the national landscape long enough that they'll have to fall pretty hard for more than a season or two to lose that cache.

If true, this will not end well for Boise.


Can't go wrong with some Metro action.........blood was spilled in that conference (not for the weak).