ok so McMurphy says one statement, without any source, and still saying nothing new, while having been wrong before, and this entire board lights up in fire. I'm not saying he's wrong or that I can't accept Boise leaving, i'm just saying what makes his word true?
He still works for ESPN, no one else has come up with novel information regarding the subject, and he still has been wrong more than he has been right.
(12-31-2012 02:47 PM)texasflood Wrote: If true, very bad news for the nBE. But not at all unexpected.
Actually, it's bad for all the biggest programs not in the power 5, east or west. If those had joined, the result would have been reasonably close to the ACC. Now the MWC and BE will be fairly coequal, but both waaaay far from the power 5.
Seriously, the MWC will be Boise and everyone else. They think they will run the table there. It will be interesting to see where that ranks them each season.
I think Boise just made a mistake, but what do I know...
Disagree. While combining the best of the west schools with the nBE might have produced a decent conference on the field, the media/market value would still be too small to justify the big travel and logistical issues.
Separate east and west coast conferences makes more sense.
If anything this will have riled up the fanbases of the NBE and MWC. MWC is overrated anyway. Saw that when Temple kicked the 3rd place (behind TCU and Boise) team Wyoming's ass in the New Mexico Bowl last year. Even in higher elevation
(12-31-2012 02:39 PM)szullo Wrote: I really hope this is just some dumb spin or Boise got a helluva good deal in the MWC. I can't see the reasoning behind giving up that schedule and the chance at an auto BCS birth. Im really hoping they know what they're donig and that the MWC deal was reworked or they get some kind of huge concessions, but overall it's kind of disappointing when they didn't even see the Big East's TV deal.
Can't wait for everyone here to tell us how we're not valuable now.
After next year, Boise has the same chance at an auto-big in the MWC as they would in the Big East. MWC is a much easier travel schedule than what the new Big East would be. On top of it all, the Big East Boise agreed to join is significantly different now. This is true for all the teams that joined at the same time as Boise. Due to location, Boise probably does not gain a lot by joining the Big East now.
IMO it's the parking of the oly's in the BW that will kill it for BSU. Not only does it cost $ but the level of play is much lower than the MWC. If the nBE could have done the divisions it would have mades sense.
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There are some boosters who follow basketball and I am sure they were relatively unhappy. Heck Fresno lost a number of big dollar boosters when we cut wrestling.
An eastern league likely didn't make $$$ sense for Temple, Cinci, UConn or Houston. We shall see if Houston comes west also or are eastern focused as many posters here have represented.
(This post was last modified: 12-31-2012 03:01 PM by Sactowndog.)
(12-31-2012 02:57 PM)Kruciff Wrote: ok so McMurphy says one statement, without any source, and still saying nothing new, while having been wrong before, and this entire board lights up in fire. I'm not saying he's wrong or that I can't accept Boise leaving, i'm just saying what makes his word true?
He still works for ESPN, no one else has come up with novel information regarding the subject, and he still has been wrong more than he has been right.
Come on people, stop jumping at noises.
He's been wrong a lot when making predictions and guesses. He's also been right a lot of the time when reporting on issues that have finality, which I think this has.
(12-31-2012 02:51 PM)spc_ops Wrote: You guys will appreciate a truer East conference in the long run. With AQ going away, it's not going to hurt you guys.
I think so too. Regional conferences make more sense.
Though Boise State never spent a day in the Big East, the Broncos still must pay a $10 million exit fee to the Big East. The Mountain West is expected to help pay that fee, sources said.
(12-31-2012 03:04 PM)bearcatfan Wrote: Though Boise State never spent a day in the Big East, the Broncos still must pay a $10 million exit fee to the Big East. The Mountain West is expected to help pay that fee, sources said.
(12-31-2012 03:04 PM)bearcatfan Wrote: Though Boise State never spent a day in the Big East, the Broncos still must pay a $10 million exit fee to the Big East. The Mountain West is expected to help pay that fee, sources said.
(12-31-2012 02:47 PM)texasflood Wrote: If true, very bad news for the nBE. But not at all unexpected.
Actually, it's bad for all the biggest programs not in the power 5, east or west. If those had joined, the result would have been reasonably close to the ACC. Now the MWC and BE will be fairly coequal, but both waaaay far from the power 5.
Seriously, the MWC will be Boise and everyone else. They think they will run the table there. It will be interesting to see where that ranks them each season.
I think Boise just made a mistake, but what do I know...
Disagree. While combining the best of the west schools with the nBE might have produced a decent conference on the field, the media/market value would still be too small to justify the big travel and logistical issues.
Separate east and west coast conferences makes more sense.
Makes more sense from a travel perspective, but that's about it. Media and markets? Take the biggest from both sides. Also spreads you out over the timezones, a very positive thing. But again, what do I know...
(12-31-2012 02:51 PM)spc_ops Wrote: You guys will appreciate a truer East conference in the long run. With AQ going away, it's not going to hurt you guys.
I think so too. Regional conferences make more sense.
With TV money being equal I think they do. Only reason for BSU to do the BE thing and put it's other teams in the BW was for an increase in pay. Looking like that is not going to happen.
Good riddance. Keep this thing East where it should be. If anything, try to build a "North" division and take the best of the MAC. NIU, Marshall, UMass, whomever, to go with UConn and Temple. That makes sense as a national yet east coast conference. Need some good Bball schools though.
(12-31-2012 03:07 PM)pzz189 Wrote: For real. The leftovers are going to be fat from exit fees
BSU is not going to pay any exit fees. The TV money would have had to have been more than the previous 3.5 million per year teams were getting......it's not going to be that. BSU/SDSU and the 2 texas schools have get out of jail free cards if the TV money is not enough.
