We need to stay 'Big East' at least long enough to collect all the exit $$$!!!!

UConn
Cincy
Temple
Memphis
ECU
Charlotte
GSU/Tulame
UCF
USF
USM
Houston
SMU

(12-31-2012 06:54 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  UConn
Cincy
Temple
Memphis
ECU
Charlotte UMass
GSU/Tulane
UCF
USF
USM
Houston
SMU

FIFY. Like it or not Tulane is in this with us. No sense in swapping Tulane for a nobody commuter school in Georgia. UMass is at least a flagship U of a highly populated state. Charlotte is basically a nobody as well.

A lot of **** gets thrown at the conference commissioner, but hes really just a figurehead/PR guy. He does what the school presidents tell him to do.

The blame lies at UConn, USF, and Cincy school presidents. With the C7 leaving those 3 schools were making every decision. They chose to add Tulane & ECU rather than going all in for a western division. Had they gone for western schools at that time, this thing could of been saved (albiet it still would of sucked), however without moving quickly to shore up a western it was doomed to failure.

Really unfortunate, because an all sports east/west with 14 or 16 teams would of essentially been the alliance meeting that Marinatto blew off a year or 2 ago, without the dead weight at the bottoms.

All sports western division makes no sense for USF, UConn & Cincy. Worst case scenario you DO NOT want your universities to be stuck with something so illogical. It is what it is. Form the best all sports conference that makes sense, IMO it's better top to bottom than MWC.

(12-31-2012 06:56 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  A lot of **** gets thrown at the conference commissioner, but hes really just a figurehead/PR guy. He does what the school presidents tell him to do.

The blame lies at UConn, USF, and Cincy school presidents. With the C7 leaving those 3 schools were making every decision. They chose to add Tulane & ECU rather than going all in for a western division. Had they gone for western schools at that time, this thing could of been saved (albiet it still would of sucked), however without moving quickly to shore up a western it was doomed to failure.

Really unfortunate, because an all sports east/west with 14 or 16 teams would of essentially been the alliance meeting that Marinatto blew off a year or 2 ago, without the dead weight at the bottoms.

I have heard many times that UConn and Cincinnati abstained from the votes because they were to hear from the ACC that same day. It is unconfirmed but would make sense.

If a new conference is formed, I would think it would need to be different enough to be worth disbanding the conference. Maybe a chunk of MAC, Big East, and CUSA schools coming together. Something like:

UCF
USF
ECU
UNCC
Temple
UConn
UMass
Cinci
Northern Ill
Memphis
Ohio
Southern Miss
Houston
SMU
Tulane
Etc

I'm not proposing the above -- I'm just saying, if a new conference is being formed then it should be different enough to matter...

(12-31-2012 06:47 PM)Boise fan Wrote:  I don't blame Aresco - he had an impossible task. The die was cast imo after Pitt & Syracuse decided to leave instead of waiting to see what kind of media deal could occur.

Was it really Aresco that failed? Or was it just inevitable after the dominoes began falling?

The western experiment was a dumb idea from the start. No offense but the only reason Boise was invited was to help maintain the BCS auto bid. After that went away they should have scrapped the western deal instead of letting the charade go on this long. Good luck to Boise I'm sure you will continue to dominate the MW. Maybe the Pirates will see you in a bowl game again someday.

(12-31-2012 07:26 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 07:14 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  I feel sorry for USF. I can't think of anybody who is going to get screwed worse as a result of all this chit than the Bulls.

The only reason they got the original big east invite was because they were in Florida. They were an average CUSA team. Let's get serious.

Sorry about this folks, he's a bit upset atm

(12-31-2012 07:29 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 07:26 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 07:14 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  I feel sorry for USF. I can't think of anybody who is going to get screwed worse as a result of all this chit than the Bulls.

The only reason they got the original big east invite was because they were in Florida. They were an average CUSA team. Let's get serious.

. Whatever you want to say buddy. USF will continue to move forward.

I strongly believe the end game in all of this is a conference where UH and USF stick together. . . like schools, same mission, etc. . . It should not be lost on anyone that UH president Dr. Khator spent much of her career as provost at USF and her loyalty is deep . . .

This:

USF
UCF
UC
UConn
ECU
Temple
Houston
SMU
Southern Miss
Memphis
And maybe 2 others

With an eastern league we get much better names too. I suggest: the Eastern 10 or 12, the Eastern Conference, East Coast Conference, or (to F**k with the Mountain West) the Mountain East.

I vote Mountain East.

(12-31-2012 06:13 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  The BE is toast. Aresco has failed at everything he has touched. Maybe worse than marinatto. I bought the Aresco hype and I was wrong. The be is in shambles. Best thing now might be to make a fresh break and get away from BE name. Form totally new conf with the following

USF
UCF
UC
UConn
ECU
Temple
Houston
SMU
Southern Miss
And 1 or 2 others

At this point who really cares who they are any more.

There is also speculation that Houston and SMU could go to the MWC. So if they do it would be possible to form a more true eastern conference, ie east of the Mississippi.
UConn
Temple
UofC
ECU
UCF
USF
Memphis
Tulane (which side of the river is it on?)
So. Miss.
Marshall or UAB

If you wanted to go to 12 then add Old Dominion or Charlotte

I don't see how anyone can blame Arresco for this. I mean Rutgers was leaving for the B1G no matter who the commish was and same for UofL and the ACC. Maybe he could have handled the C7 situation better but I think they were getting word from a certain network looking to become the new king of sports TV that they were interested in them without the FB programs.

I think he just took the wrong job at the wrong time.

(12-31-2012 06:56 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 06:54 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  UConn
Cincy
Temple
Memphis
ECU
Charlotte UMass
GSU/Tulane
UCF
USF
USM
Houston
SMU

FIFY. Like it or not Tulane is in this with us. No sense in swapping Tulane for a nobody commuter school in Georgia. UMass is at least a flagship U of a highly populated state. Charlotte is basically a nobody as well.

GSU and Charlotte tie the league together for easy road trips which is the foundation to any good league. They are airline hubs (Delta, Airtran, US Air). They both also help basketball, have pro facilities available, and help the rest of us pad our win column without playing schools that aren't trying .ie UAB,Tulane.

(12-31-2012 06:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I think you are looking at something like this

UConn--rental
Cinci--rental
Memphis
Tulane
UCF
USF--probably also a rental
ODU
Temple
UMass
S Miss

I also think this will be the outcome of whatever is left of the nBE and under a new name. LaTech, UNT, Rice, UNCC would be on the deck to replace the rentals.

(12-31-2012 06:56 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  A lot of **** gets thrown at the conference commissioner, but hes really just a figurehead/PR guy. He does what the school presidents tell him to do.

The blame lies at UConn, USF, and Cincy school presidents. With the C7 leaving those 3 schools were making every decision. They chose to add Tulane & ECU rather than going all in for a western division. Had they gone for western schools at that time, this thing could of been saved (albiet it still would of sucked), however without moving quickly to shore up a western it was doomed to failure.

Really unfortunate, because an all sports east/west with 14 or 16 teams would of essentially been the alliance meeting that Marinatto blew off a year or 2 ago, without the dead weight at the bottoms.

Do you really think this is true? Don't you think Aresco threw everything at Boise to stay including starting a western division with heavy input from them and SDST?

I believe with the C7 gone it was not worth the additional dollars for travel. Tr nBE will still get a whole lot more than the MWC, but to Boise. It wasn't worth it.

It wasn't worth it once the MWC agreed to give Boise a special deal. Big East wouldn't go for that b/c Boise isn't as valuable to the Big East as they would be to the MWC. Add in the fact that Boise will make more than everybody else in the MWC and get to place their Oly's their and it makes perfect sense for them. I'm not convinced this is some sign of doom and gloom for the BE TV deal. More of a what makes more sense long term kind of thing for Boise.

It looks like the mwc execs were busy during past weeks while Be execs were on holiday. Aresco needs to give us an update so we know he is working:(

(12-31-2012 07:41 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  This:

USF
UCF
UC
UConn
ECU
Temple
Houston
SMU
Southern Miss
Memphis
And maybe 2 others

With an eastern league we get much better names too. I suggest: the Eastern 10 or 12, the Eastern Conference, East Coast Conference, or (to F**k with the Mountain West) the Mountain East.

I vote Mountain East.

The Core, Eastern Core

(12-31-2012 07:41 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  This:

USF
UCF
UC
UConn
ECU
Temple
Houston
SMU
Southern Miss
Memphis
And maybe 2 others

With an eastern league we get much better names too. I suggest: the Eastern 10 or 12, the Eastern Conference, East Coast Conference, or (to F**k with the Mountain West) the Mountain East.

I vote Mountain East.

The Mountain East is taken...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_East_Conference