(12-31-2012 06:54 PM)fresnostatebulldogfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 06:40 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 06:38 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  MWC is making a play for Houston and SMU.

Good luck getting them to sign up for Boise's unequal deal. I don't see how they get anybody to sign up for that now unless it's maybe BYU. Everybody else is essentially Boise's (& maybe BYU's) *****. SMU & Houston just aren't big enough brands to pull a separate TV deal.

Before you speak you should educate yourself... the deal is not unequal in that BSU is getting a special deal and the others arent... the deal is that any school being aired on National TV (home games) which is now an option thanks to ESPN... That school will get an additional $300K for weekdays and $500K for Weekends.

So BSU will have conference games in which two teams from the MWC will air nationally and therefore that school whose (home) will have additional money... furthermore if the other schools do well and ESPN picks up those games they too will get additional money.

To me this is unequal yet fair.

‏@DanWetzel
Also, all MWC teams will get bonus for national TV appearances. 300K for weeknight. 500K for Saturday. Should aid Boise




‏@DanWetzel
Boise staying in MWC. Key is home games not part of league TV deal, will be sold separately although league gets revenue.


MWC could have several national games per week on any of the following networks ESPN, ESPN2, ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox

Notice ESpin's hand in this. I mean their **** screams Torus Interference.

(12-31-2012 07:23 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 07:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 06:59 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  This will only apply to Boise State, so it's unequal . . . No one else will be on national television. . .

And on topic . . . I am not happy about losing Boise State by any measure . . . I am happy that UH now likely will play the large, urban universities we want to play east of the Mississippi. . .

Yes. You are getting exactly what you wanted, CUSA. If Renu continues on this path both she and Mack will be gone. Book it.

If by that you mean UConn, Cinci, USF, Temple, Navy, UMass (probably), ECU, UCF, SMU, Memphis, and Tulane . . . And shedding UAB, USM, Marshall, UTEP, and Tulsa . . . Then YES! . . . And Dr. Khator isn't going anywhere because of football . . . You need to take a deep breathe and remember why she was hired . . . And it wasn't football . . .

It has nothing to do with why she was hired. You cant spend 10 million for nothing and not have a problem. She has to have something to show for the 10 million. I dont see us ending up in the Big East. Its not what she and Mack signed up for, so she has an easy out and a solid alternative. My guess is she takes that alternative and sells it. She doenst really have another viable choice. Besides, she can always schedule OOC games in the east if its that big a priority. This isnt the 1996 where west coast scores dont show up in eastern Sunday papers anymore. Hell, nobody gets an actual paper anymore...do they?

A league source says UTEP, SMU and Houston have recently shown interest in becoming members.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...discussion

(12-31-2012 07:46 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 07:23 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 07:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 06:59 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  This will only apply to Boise State, so it's unequal . . . No one else will be on national television. . .

And on topic . . . I am not happy about losing Boise State by any measure . . . I am happy that UH now likely will play the large, urban universities we want to play east of the Mississippi. . .

Yes. You are getting exactly what you wanted, CUSA. If Renu continues on this path both she and Mack will be gone. Book it.

If by that you mean UConn, Cinci, USF, Temple, Navy, UMass (probably), ECU, UCF, SMU, Memphis, and Tulane . . . And shedding UAB, USM, Marshall, UTEP, and Tulsa . . . Then YES! . . . And Dr. Khator isn't going anywhere because of football . . . You need to take a deep breathe and remember why she was hired . . . And it wasn't football . . .

It has nothing to do with why she was hired. You cant spend 10 million for nothing and not have a problem. She has to have something to show for the 10 million. I dont see us ending up in the Big East. Its not what she and Mack signed up for, so she has an easy out and a solid alternative. My guess is she takes it. She doenst really have another viable choice.

A league source says UTEP, SMU and Houston have recently shown interest in becoming members.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...discussion

You'd prefer to be in that crap conference? yikes....gluck

If that's the case, have fun being an ex-community college's ***** Houston. Makes NO sense.

Until I hear that UConn and Cincinnati are putting their Olympic Sports in the Catholic league and their football in the MAC/MWC, I will believe that UH stays true to its long term vision and sticks with UCOnn, Cincinnati, Temple, USF, UCF, etc . . . In the best eastern conference deal that can be struck . . .

(12-31-2012 07:50 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  If that's the case, have fun being an ex-community college's ***** Houston. Makes NO sense.

lol...Couldnt be any worse than being S Miss's ***** last December.

My concern is that this conference is pretty even with the MW right now. If we dont go, the MW likley adds SDSU, Tulsa, and either UTEP of UTSA, When we lose Cinic and UConn, we are going to be pretty pedestrian with no viable replacements other than CUSA newbies like ODU. I mean, at that point, we really would be CUSA 2011, possibly worse, depends on how many the ACC gets raided for.

On the other hand, if Houston and SMU shift west, the MW looks pretty decent, and its basically the same division we were going to play in under the original BE plan.

Now, if Aresco pulls a 5 or 6 million dollar contract out of his azz, then we are not going anywhere and Renu has a solid defense for staying the course. If the contract is CUSA-ish (which Im starting to think it might be given the defections and the undermining of value that occurred due to the public campaigne to leave by UConn and Cinci) then its impossible for the administration to stay.

(12-31-2012 07:56 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  Until I hear that UConn and Cincinnati are putting their Olympic Sports in the Catholic league and their football in the MAC/MWC, I will believe that UH stays true to its long term vision and sticks with UCOnn, Cincinnati, Temple, USF, UCF, etc . . . In the best eastern conference deal that can be struck . . .

I dont think they would do that---but its no longer impossible. I will tell you that if UConn thinks that is best for UConn, they will do it in a heartbeat. I suspect that there is a growing sentimate in UConn to do something like that. The thing you need to remember is that this is everyone for themsleves time. Houston got left behind last time because they stuck around and tried to make a sinking ship work. Everyone needs to understand, nobody has any intention of sticking with anyone else. I mean, I thought we had a pretty good concept for a conference, but as everyone has backed out, whats left is becoming less and less appealing. At this point, it is what it is.

(12-31-2012 06:38 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  MWC is making a play for Houston and SMU.

I'd be a little disappointed at losing Houston, but not SMU.

Yep, Houston "shed" Southern Miss, and it only cost $10 million. You guys are smart!

(12-31-2012 08:11 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 07:56 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  Until I hear that UConn and Cincinnati are putting their Olympic Sports in the Catholic league and their football in the MAC/MWC, I will believe that UH stays true to its long term vision and sticks with UCOnn, Cincinnati, Temple, USF, UCF, etc . . . In the best eastern conference deal that can be struck . . .

I dont think they would do that---but its no longer impossible. I will tell you that if UConn thinks that is best for UConn, they will do it in a heartbeat. I suspect that there is a growing sentimate in UConn to do something like that. The thing you need to remember is that this is everyone for themsleves time. Houston got left behind last time because they stuck around and tried to make a sinking ship work. Everyone needs to understand, nobody has any intention of sticking with anyone else. I mean, I thought we had a pretty good concept for a conference, but as everyone has backed out, whats left is becoming less and less appealing. At this point, it is what it is.

Not sure if the c7 would want cincy or UConn at this point. Sometimes its better yo just move on. Grab some schools that have no Fb aspirations and are less of flight risk

(12-31-2012 08:47 PM)Noodles Wrote:  Yep, Houston "shed" Southern Miss, and it only cost $10 million. You guys are smart!

What makes you think UH is paying $10 million to do anything? . . . If you're going to troll the Big East board, catch up . . .

(12-31-2012 08:52 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 08:47 PM)Noodles Wrote:  Yep, Houston "shed" Southern Miss, and it only cost $10 million. You guys are smart!

What makes you think UH is paying $10 million to do anything? . . . If you're going to troll the Big East board, catch up . . .

Sorry, just going by what attackcoog said.

(12-31-2012 06:59 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  This will only apply to Boise State, so it's unequal . . . No one else will be on national television. . .

And on topic . . . I am not happy about losing Boise State by any measure . . . I am happy that UH now likely will play the large, urban universities we want to play east of the Mississippi. . .

Yes it applies to Boise but also any other school who ESPN finds attractive will also get $$$... for example Fresno State had 2-3 national televised games... that would have been additional $ as well for Fresno State...if your program takes care of business and ESPN, Fox, CBS, or ect will pick up your game and you then will get paid extra by the conference.

(01-01-2013 03:49 AM)fresnostatebulldogfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 06:59 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  This will only apply to Boise State, so it's unequal . . . No one else will be on national television. . .

And on topic . . . I am not happy about losing Boise State by any measure . . . I am happy that UH now likely will play the large, urban universities we want to play east of the Mississippi. . .

Yes it applies to Boise but also any other school who ESPN finds attractive will also get $$$... for example Fresno State had 2-3 national televised games... that would have been additional $ as well for Fresno State...if your program takes care of business and ESPN, Fox, CBS, or ect will pick up your game and you then will get paid extra by the conference.

Maybe I'm reading the TV proposal differently, but I think "nationally televised" where the $500,000 bonus is paid means NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, or ESPN . . . I do not believe it means limited cable channels like NBC Sports or CBS Sports . . . I could be wrong . . . if I'm right, Fresno did not have a "nationally television" game last year . . .

(01-01-2013 04:06 AM)UHCougar Wrote:  

(01-01-2013 03:49 AM)fresnostatebulldogfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 06:59 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  This will only apply to Boise State, so it's unequal . . . No one else will be on national television. . .

And on topic . . . I am not happy about losing Boise State by any measure . . . I am happy that UH now likely will play the large, urban universities we want to play east of the Mississippi. . .

Yes it applies to Boise but also any other school who ESPN finds attractive will also get $$$... for example Fresno State had 2-3 national televised games... that would have been additional $ as well for Fresno State...if your program takes care of business and ESPN, Fox, CBS, or ect will pick up your game and you then will get paid extra by the conference.

Maybe I'm reading the TV proposal differently, but I think "nationally televised" where the $500,000 bonus is paid means NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, or ESPN . . . I do not believe it means limited cable channels like NBC Sports or CBS Sports . . . I could be wrong . . . if I'm right, Fresno did not have a "nationally television" game last year . . .

Fresno was also locked down by CBS sports and the old MWC TV contract. that is gone now with CBS only being able to lock down a small number of games. Thus the odds of Fresno being picked up by fox or ESPN 2 is much higher going forward. BTW if they play at Boise or say Air force and the game is picked up then both teams get the conference bonus. MWC will need quite a bit of inventory frankly.

Over the next few years WYo has home games with Missouri, Oregon, and Washington state. ESPN or FOX will want those games

(01-01-2013 05:03 AM)billings Wrote:  

(01-01-2013 04:06 AM)UHCougar Wrote:  

(01-01-2013 03:49 AM)fresnostatebulldogfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 06:59 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  This will only apply to Boise State, so it's unequal . . . No one else will be on national television. . .

And on topic . . . I am not happy about losing Boise State by any measure . . . I am happy that UH now likely will play the large, urban universities we want to play east of the Mississippi. . .

Yes it applies to Boise but also any other school who ESPN finds attractive will also get $$$... for example Fresno State had 2-3 national televised games... that would have been additional $ as well for Fresno State...if your program takes care of business and ESPN, Fox, CBS, or ect will pick up your game and you then will get paid extra by the conference.

Maybe I'm reading the TV proposal differently, but I think "nationally televised" where the $500,000 bonus is paid means NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, or ESPN . . . I do not believe it means limited cable channels like NBC Sports or CBS Sports . . . I could be wrong . . . if I'm right, Fresno did not have a "nationally television" game last year . . .

Fresno was also locked down by CBS sports and the old MWC TV contract. that is gone now with CBS only being able to lock down a small number of games. Thus the odds of Fresno being picked up by fox or ESPN 2 is much higher going forward. BTW if they play at Boise or say Air force and the game is picked up then both teams get the conference bonus. MWC will need quite a bit of inventory frankly.

Over the next few years WYo has home games with Missouri, Oregon, and Washington state. ESPN or FOX will want those games

Why? ESPN did not pickup the Fresno State v Oregon game this year.

(12-31-2012 09:01 PM)Noodles Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 08:52 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 08:47 PM)Noodles Wrote:  Yep, Houston "shed" Southern Miss, and it only cost $10 million. You guys are smart!

What makes you think UH is paying $10 million to do anything? . . . If you're going to troll the Big East board, catch up . . .

Sorry, just going by what attackcoog said.

lol. Estimates for our exit fees have been floated for between 500K and 7 million. Personally, after reading the bylaws, I think they are only 500K --but we wont know for sure until we pay.

(01-01-2013 04:06 AM)UHCougar Wrote:  

(01-01-2013 03:49 AM)fresnostatebulldogfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 06:59 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  This will only apply to Boise State, so it's unequal . . . No one else will be on national television. . .

And on topic . . . I am not happy about losing Boise State by any measure . . . I am happy that UH now likely will play the large, urban universities we want to play east of the Mississippi. . .

Yes it applies to Boise but also any other school who ESPN finds attractive will also get $$$... for example Fresno State had 2-3 national televised games... that would have been additional $ as well for Fresno State...if your program takes care of business and ESPN, Fox, CBS, or ect will pick up your game and you then will get paid extra by the conference.

Maybe I'm reading the TV proposal differently, but I think "nationally televised" where the $500,000 bonus is paid means NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, or ESPN . . . I do not believe it means limited cable channels like NBC Sports or CBS Sports . . . I could be wrong . . . if I'm right, Fresno did not have a "nationally television" game last year . . .

You are correct. It must be a national carrier. I would think NBC Sports would also count, but I dont know that for sure. Regional carriers like Fox-Sports Net or Comcast Sports-LA do not count.

(01-01-2013 03:46 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  

(01-01-2013 05:03 AM)billings Wrote:  

(01-01-2013 04:06 AM)UHCougar Wrote:  

(01-01-2013 03:49 AM)fresnostatebulldogfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 06:59 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  This will only apply to Boise State, so it's unequal . . . No one else will be on national television. . .

And on topic . . . I am not happy about losing Boise State by any measure . . . I am happy that UH now likely will play the large, urban universities we want to play east of the Mississippi. . .

Yes it applies to Boise but also any other school who ESPN finds attractive will also get $$$... for example Fresno State had 2-3 national televised games... that would have been additional $ as well for Fresno State...if your program takes care of business and ESPN, Fox, CBS, or ect will pick up your game and you then will get paid extra by the conference.

Maybe I'm reading the TV proposal differently, but I think "nationally televised" where the $500,000 bonus is paid means NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, or ESPN . . . I do not believe it means limited cable channels like NBC Sports or CBS Sports . . . I could be wrong . . . if I'm right, Fresno did not have a "nationally television" game last year . . .

Fresno was also locked down by CBS sports and the old MWC TV contract. that is gone now with CBS only being able to lock down a small number of games. Thus the odds of Fresno being picked up by fox or ESPN 2 is much higher going forward. BTW if they play at Boise or say Air force and the game is picked up then both teams get the conference bonus. MWC will need quite a bit of inventory frankly.

Over the next few years WYo has home games with Missouri, Oregon, and Washington state. ESPN or FOX will want those games

Why? ESPN did not pickup the Fresno State v Oregon game this year.

locked up by CBS this year. New TV deal will help release games like this to ESPN, etc

(01-01-2013 04:02 PM)billings Wrote:  

(01-01-2013 03:46 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  

(01-01-2013 05:03 AM)billings Wrote:  

(01-01-2013 04:06 AM)UHCougar Wrote:  

(01-01-2013 03:49 AM)fresnostatebulldogfan Wrote:  Yes it applies to Boise but also any other school who ESPN finds attractive will also get $$$... for example Fresno State had 2-3 national televised games... that would have been additional $ as well for Fresno State...if your program takes care of business and ESPN, Fox, CBS, or ect will pick up your game and you then will get paid extra by the conference.

Maybe I'm reading the TV proposal differently, but I think "nationally televised" where the $500,000 bonus is paid means NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, or ESPN . . . I do not believe it means limited cable channels like NBC Sports or CBS Sports . . . I could be wrong . . . if I'm right, Fresno did not have a "nationally television" game last year . . .

Fresno was also locked down by CBS sports and the old MWC TV contract. that is gone now with CBS only being able to lock down a small number of games. Thus the odds of Fresno being picked up by fox or ESPN 2 is much higher going forward. BTW if they play at Boise or say Air force and the game is picked up then both teams get the conference bonus. MWC will need quite a bit of inventory frankly.

Over the next few years WYo has home games with Missouri, Oregon, and Washington state. ESPN or FOX will want those games

Why? ESPN did not pickup the Fresno State v Oregon game this year.

locked up by CBS this year. New TV deal will help release games like this to ESPN, etc

Fresno State played Oregon on the PAC Network this year . . . 2013 is a long way off. . .