(01-05-2013 04:05 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Please tell me why anyone in Conf USA cares about what happens in the BE. SMU, UH, ECU,Tulane and UCF are finished with Conf USA. What does it matter what the BE does and does not do? I really do not get it.

and if your done with CUSA then why do you care what we say over in little old CUSA land?

(01-05-2013 05:56 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 04:54 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 04:05 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Please tell me why anyone in Conf USA cares about what happens in the BE. SMU, UH, ECU,Tulane and UCF are finished with Conf USA. What does it matter what the BE does and does not do? I really do not get it.

and you ask why???

Honestly, some nbe posters have been good about the transition, but you have a large amount of posters on the other hand, who have put their foot in their mouth on this board and on the big east board. Then you have posters like yourself, who have never been on this board and suddenly an invite is extended and they pop out of nowhere and want to push and talk how "great" the big east is. I don't know, but I guess it comes down to... he who laughs last, laughs the loudest.

LoL, I live for the BE.

BigEastHomer sock account #8.

(01-05-2013 05:56 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 04:54 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 04:05 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Please tell me why anyone in Conf USA cares about what happens in the BE. SMU, UH, ECU,Tulane and UCF are finished with Conf USA. What does it matter what the BE does and does not do? I really do not get it.

and you ask why???

Honestly, some nbe posters have been good about the transition, but you have a large amount of posters on the other hand, who have put their foot in their mouth on this board and on the big east board. Then you have posters like yourself, who have never been on this board and suddenly an invite is extended and they pop out of nowhere and want to push and talk how "great" the big east is. I don't know, but I guess it comes down to... he who laughs last, laughs the loudest.

LoL, I live for the BE.

And they will be the best 2 months of your life!

(01-05-2013 03:49 PM)next04 Wrote:  Articles like this make me laugh. CUSA2.0 is still head and shoulders better than the current Sun Belt2.0 we're about to be stuck in. The only way I'd want Tulsa to stay in this conference is if we kicked out all the newbies and all the old schools came back+ maybe usf and cincy

My thoughts exactly. Southern Miss and Tulsa (stable and successful conference members) should do all they can to get invited to the nBE (within reason). It would be great for nBE as well as Tulsa and Southern Miss.

(01-05-2013 05:59 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 04:05 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Please tell me why anyone in Conf USA cares about what happens in the BE. SMU, UH, ECU,Tulane and UCF are finished with Conf USA. What does it matter what the BE does and does not do? I really do not get it.

and if your done with CUSA then why do you care what we say over in little old CUSA land?

Um, because we are still in COnf USA.

(01-05-2013 06:15 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 05:59 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 04:05 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Please tell me why anyone in Conf USA cares about what happens in the BE. SMU, UH, ECU,Tulane and UCF are finished with Conf USA. What does it matter what the BE does and does not do? I really do not get it.

and if your done with CUSA then why do you care what we say over in little old CUSA land?

Um, because we are still in COnf USA.

Nice to see... you still have hope

(01-05-2013 06:15 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 05:59 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 04:05 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Please tell me why anyone in Conf USA cares about what happens in the BE. SMU, UH, ECU,Tulane and UCF are finished with Conf USA. What does it matter what the BE does and does not do? I really do not get it.

and if your done with CUSA then why do you care what we say over in little old CUSA land?

Um, because we are still in COnf USA.

Don't you just love it when trolls out themselves?

(01-05-2013 06:22 PM)BlazerUnit Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 06:15 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 05:59 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 04:05 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Please tell me why anyone in Conf USA cares about what happens in the BE. SMU, UH, ECU,Tulane and UCF are finished with Conf USA. What does it matter what the BE does and does not do? I really do not get it.

and if your done with CUSA then why do you care what we say over in little old CUSA land?

Um, because we are still in COnf USA.

Don't you just love it when trolls out themselves?

Wow you got me.

9.5 million for UC UConn USF UCF Memphis SMU Temple Tulane and Houston - pass.

(01-05-2013 05:56 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 04:54 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 04:05 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Please tell me why anyone in Conf USA cares about what happens in the BE. SMU, UH, ECU,Tulane and UCF are finished with Conf USA. What does it matter what the BE does and does not do? I really do not get it.

and you ask why???

Honestly, some nbe posters have been good about the transition, but you have a large amount of posters on the other hand, who have put their foot in their mouth on this board and on the big east board. Then you have posters like yourself, who have never been on this board and suddenly an invite is extended and they pop out of nowhere and want to push and talk how "great" the big east is. I don't know, but I guess it comes down to... he who laughs last, laughs the loudest.

LoL, I live for the BE.

Then go away.

Apparently making 1 to 1.5 million more a year on a tv contract automatically makes a team better then all the rest of us inferior teams and they get the right to talk down to us and pretend they have always been better then us, it was just us and our pesky conference they were in that was holding them back all along. I think I got it figured out now.

I think there is a solid point to foregoing the exit fees and having USF, Cinci, Temple, and UConn join C*USA. It's practically the same conference. We could just buy the Big East name. Pay a smaller penalty to revoke the invitations of F_U, MTSU, UNT, UTSA, and La Tech. It would be an 18 team conference and their 6 team pods could look almost identical to the Big East if that would make them feel better.

A: UConn - Temple - Cincinnati - Memphis - UCF - USF
B: Houston - SMU - Rice - Tulsa - Tulane - UTEP
C: USM - UAB - Marshall - Charlotte - ODU - ECU

:clap2:

(01-05-2013 10:15 PM)Billy Free Wrote:  Apparently making 1 to 1.5 million more a year on a tv contract automatically makes a team better then all the rest of us inferior teams and they get the right to talk down to us and pretend they have always been better then us, it was just us and our pesky conference they were in that was holding them back all along. I think I got it figured out now.

:clap2:

(01-05-2013 05:13 PM)mistabinks Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 04:13 PM)Kronke Wrote:  It's pretty obvious. The leftovers know they will never move up in the world

SMU, UH, Tulane, Memphis, UCF, and ECU's football didn't move uo. They moved on. By moving on, that did cause CUSA to fall back a step. So you guys are a step above us even though you didn't actually move up. Playing games against Temple, UCONN, USF, and Cincinnati isn't a move up.

That being said, I think this was a great move for UH, Memphis. And UCF. In the end, it will probably work out great for you guys.

I have always enjoyed playing UTEP in football and basketball. I hope we continue to compete against each other.

The article mentions that the entry fee to the Big East is 2.5 million. I thought it was reported a while back that the entry fee was 5 million? Am I wrong on that?

I believe the exit fee is the $5M figure.

I could see a scenario where the not quite ex-CUSA members come back and the Sun Belts are uninvited. That is, no La Tech, UNT, UTSA, ODU, etc. we'll see if that comes to pass.

(01-05-2013 03:14 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Ya Mike Bianchi isn't even a UCF fan. He's a UF fan forced to write drivel on UCF.

He's constantly mocked openly among Orlando residents and UCF students alike.

In no way is this article indicative of UCF's intentions, nor is what he is proposing even the easiest or best solution.

He fails to tell exactly how we would come back, considering our spots have been backfilled before, or how we would convince USF to come with us.

TL;DR. Bianchi is an idiot.

I'm pretty sure Bianchi isn't a Gator fan, although he did attend UF. I don't think he is being biased against UCF in this case. It's probably safe to say that he is trying to stir things up.

That being said, I don't agree with Bianchi on this one. No way should UCF stay in C-USA; that would be a disastrous move at this point. Too much has been invested into this move, and frankly, it's still not a bad move. The Big East has collected a lot of money from exit and entrance fees and is going to put that money to good use. The Big East may not get an "elite league" type of TV deal, but it will be a better deal than C-USA has without a doubt in large part because of having bigger TV markets and more established programs. That doesn't necessarily mean that the new Big East is going to blow C-USA teams off the field in football games, but it will get better exposure and more money. Ultimately, the new Big East is the best deal UCF can get . . . for now.

OK Tallgrass.... I'm not totally riding the "nBE" jock and its positioning and bargaining power is dubious but you are really fixated on it to the point I am wondering if you are jilted lover, stalker, or some other kind of issue having person on this.

FWIW, Tulsa might just be coming next

(01-06-2013 12:08 AM)TU 1978 Wrote:  I believe the exit fee is the $5M figure.

I could see a scenario where the not quite ex-CUSA members come back and the Sun Belts are uninvited. That is, no La Tech, UNT, UTSA, ODU, etc. we'll see if that comes to pass.

I believe the prevailing theory is that the current voting members dissolve the conference then move to the MWC/BE. That way exit fees are nonexistent, tourney units are kept, and some believe, no contracts are violated.

(01-06-2013 12:27 AM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 12:08 AM)TU 1978 Wrote:  I believe the exit fee is the $5M figure.

I could see a scenario where the not quite ex-CUSA members come back and the Sun Belts are uninvited. That is, no La Tech, UNT, UTSA, ODU, etc. we'll see if that comes to pass.

I believe the prevailing theory is that the current voting members dissolve the conference then move to the MWC/BE. That way exit fees are nonexistent, tourney units are kept, and some believe, no contracts are violated.

Not gonna happen.

The conference [CUSA] would forfeit any NCAA Tournament money to the the individual schools, and lose an auto bid.

Additionally, you are almost certainly looking at only the nBE to join with, and I am not sure that the nBE would want to absorb CUSA en total.

Unless the ACC in fact starts to implode from Big 10 actions, UConn and Cincy have nowhere to go in the short term. This actually gives the nBE a respectable (except for Tulane, although it has the N.O. tv market) core of Temple, Memphis, Cincy, Uconn, Navy, UCF, USF, and ECU, from which to build.
Without the West teams, the nBE becomes an Eastern, more geographically centered conference again; and would feel less pressure to add more schools quickly in order to balance Western programs, and/or satisfy the NCAA requisite 6 teams per for divisional play.

As for the MWC, consider the following:

1. If, (and yes it is still a big if), BYU and the MWC is a done deal, as has been reported,
and
2. Houston and SMU move to the MWC; which seems likely,
then;
along with Boise, the MWC becomes a premier non BCS football conference almost immediately - with the added advantage of being geographically friendly (except Hawaii) to it's members.

The MWC has no need for the rest of CUSA, especially if UTEP, and possibly Tulsa as well, move to the MWC as as has been strongly rumored.