bearcatstubb Wrote:Part of the reason Huggs forced the situation with his rollover was because he said he couldn't recruit....everyone was using it against him...If he had the NCH boys about to commit, I doubt he would have forced the issue....I don't by this one at all...doesn't line up with the facts.

stubby, please elaborate. i'm not joking.

also , I always said it was the fact that huggs could not stand the psuedo- micro managing of the zimpher team! anybody on this forum who was successfull in their field (like huggs) knew when new management wanted, amd forced them out.

We all know Huggs and Katz were putting some pressure on UC to add back in his rollover clause...He has stated publicly this was killing him on the recruiting trail....If he had these NCH kids about to sign, just weeks before he was forced to resign, why would he have to put pressure on the admin to try and extend the contract?....I mean if he had these 3 coming in, he would have had a shot at the national title in the last year of the contract.....It just doesnt add up.....I'm not saying they wont follow him wherever he goes....but I don't believe for a second they were about to announce they were coming to UC just before this all went down.

bearcatstubb Wrote:We all know Huggs and Katz were putting some pressure on UC to add back in his rollover clause...He has stated publicly this was killing him on the recruiting trail....If he had these NCH kids about to sign, just weeks before he was forced to resign, why would he have to put pressure on the admin to try and extend the contract?....I mean if he had these 3 coming in, he would have had a shot at the national title in the last year of the contract.....It just doesnt add up.....I'm not saying they wont follow him wherever he goes....but I don't believe for a second they were about to announce they were coming to UC just before this all went down.

no, you your wrong in that the 3 amigos were putting pressure on huggs! nothing, nothing, nothing, is set in stone with 16,17,18 people. To think huggs was not the front runner would be wrong! this would have thew best 2 classes he had ever! hit the grand slam likle 2000 then hit the lakes!

now we have dr. Z cheering for xavier.... enjoy allllllll

bearcatstubb Wrote:Part of the reason Huggs forced the situation with his rollover was because he said he couldn't recruit....everyone was using it against him...If he had the NCH boys about to commit, I doubt he would have forced the issue....I don't by this one at all...doesn't line up with the facts.

If he hadn't of "forced" the issue, and he got those guys, his contract would have run out in what, another year? Oh yeah that's real secure for everyone involved including the University. So he did the most logical, correct action by forcing them to make a decision.

I heard from some pretty reliable sources that prior to his resignation Hugs was pressuring his buddies on the high-school coaching scene to say their players were getting ready to commit to UC but would only do so if Hugs stayed. I heard this was especially true with Bennett. I

[quote="Hayek"]I heard from some pretty reliable sources that prior to his resignation Hugs was pressuring his buddies on the high-school coaching scene to say their players were getting ready to commit to UC but would only do so if Hugs stayed. I heard this was especially true with Bennett. I

Again, I

Welcome Hayek!

[quote="Hayek"]Again, I

Sully Wrote:

bearcatstubb Wrote:Part of the reason Huggs forced the situation with his rollover was because he said he couldn't recruit....everyone was using it against him...If he had the NCH boys about to commit, I doubt he would have forced the issue....I don't by this one at all...doesn't line up with the facts.

If he hadn't of "forced" the issue, and he got those guys, his contract would have run out in what, another year? Oh yeah that's real secure for everyone involved including the University. So he did the most logical, correct action by forcing them to make a decision.

The whole point is Huggins himself said he couldnt recruit under the current conditions....so to assume he was about to get those 3 kids is ridiculous.

Bobb, I don

Hayek,

I'm actually one that can see your point because I watched the Shootout with several people who commentate local high school games. They told me that the NCH trio was and is not necessarily as much of a lock to go with Huggs as everyone thinks. They didn't say they'd go to UC. But they said that the Huggs recruiting trail had a tendency to fall apart when kids thought about how hard they'd have to practice and get yelled at.

I was also told that Walker and Mayo don't play defense. And that in many ways, they're looking to walk into a good program, but an easy situation where they can start right away and showcase themselves for the NBA. I don't necessarily think Huggs is their best option, and from what I've heard, those two have hedged about going with Huggs.

So recently my opinion has changed on that entire situation based on conversations I've had.

So your theory about Huggs using it as leveredge could possibly be true even if his leverege wasn't necessarily for real.

[quote]As far as the NCH kids, the only reason we have to believe that they were ever especially

Several observations from a partner of mine who occassionally gets around Huggs through a mutual friend.

One, top "rumors" from Huggs camp are Marshall and UNLV.
Two, Huggs was offered the WVU job back then, and he wishes he had taken it. (this is consistent with reports from someone even closer to Huggs that I know.)
Three, Ellis will be lucky to see a college gym. He's an "episode" waiting to happen, and could be exactly the kind of liability that got Huggs into the position he's been in.

Bearcat85 Wrote:Several observations from a partner of mine who occassionally gets around Huggs through a mutual friend.

One, top "rumors" from Huggs camp are Marshall and UNLV.
Two, Huggs was offered the WVU job back then, and he wishes he had taken it. (this is consistent with reports from someone even closer to Huggs that I know.)
Three, Ellis will be lucky to see a college gym. He's an "episode" waiting to happen, and could be exactly the kind of liability that got Huggs into the position he's been in.

Huggs was never offered the WVU job, and no, it does not matter what Huggs says. Ask the folks at WVU. In his tenure at UC Huggs, was never offered another job by any NBA team nor any NCAA D1 university.

Rumors or true....

Huggins is perfectly marketable to any colleges. I would not be surprised many schools will make any offers for him. I have heard rumors about several other schools including Duquense, South Florida, Marshal, Indiana and Nebraska would like to offer him a job.

I think Huggins would prefer to take a job at school within 200 miles west of West Virginia (most likely anywhere in Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky and Michigan).

A couple of nights ago, I spoke with my very good UK friends by phone and they said they aren't happy with Tubby and they want to see Huggins take the UK coaching job. I don't think it will happen, but anything is never impossible.

[quote="Hayek"]Again, I

Catswin Wrote:First off WVU never offered nor were they ever going to offer Huggs the job so they are not going to now. On top of that the job that Beilein is doing has the WVU folks very happy.

WVU Didn't "offer".... That's a technicality.... they pushed VERY VERY hard... and practically announced it. In the end they couldn't raise the funds to get him what he needed (not salary) but other stuff...jet for recruiting etc.

Catmandu Wrote:

Catswin Wrote:First off WVU never offered nor were they ever going to offer Huggs the job so they are not going to now. On top of that the job that Beilein is doing has the WVU folks very happy.

WVU Didn't "offer".... That's a technicality.... they pushed VERY VERY hard... and practically announced it. In the end they couldn't raise the funds to get him what he needed (not salary) but other stuff...jet for recruiting etc.

Not true. They did not want to hire Huggs.