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33 Oklahoma High School 2013 Football players received IA FB scholarships.
Each year, about 30 to 40 Oklahoma High School players receive IA scholarships, more than the combined total of the four states of New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, and Nevada. Recuiting analysts are stating that 2014 is going to be a banner recruiting year in Oklahoma, with more prospects and more high quality recruits.

Tulsa has built its recruiting classes starting with Okahoma first and then adding a half-dozen or so from Texas. amd then Kansas, Arkansas, and Missouri (primarily Kansas City area). Oklahoma U and Okla St U have gone deep, very deep into Texas recruiting and the primary beneficiary has been Tulsa. Oklahoma is 1/5 the population of Texas. Therefore, I regard any Top 20 list of Oklahoma high school players equal to a Top 100 listing of Texas high school players. Tulsa signed 7 players of the top 20 on the Oklahoma Super 30 list compiled by the Daily Oklahoman, #3, #5, #8, #12, #13, #19, #20. Tulsa also signed the #22 and #29 off that same list. In addition, TU signed a Top 100 Texas high school player and a Top 10 Arkansas high school player. This is how Tulsa, the smallest IA football playing school with only 4, 167 students, has performed so superbly in CUSA, winning 2 Liberty Bowls since entering the conference whereas the remaining CUSA-11 have won only one combined.

Tulsa: 12
Oklahoma: 4
Oklahoma State: 1

OTHER SCHOOLS:

1. Memphis signed 3 (Memphis coach is from Tulsa).

2. AFA, Navy and UAB signed 2 each, for a total of 6 (UAB coach is from Oklahoma).

3. KSU, Oregon State, West Virginia, Auburn Washington State, New Mexico, and Army signed 1 each, for a total of 7 (Oregon State, WVA, and WSU coaching staff have Oklahoma and Texas ties).

TOTAL: 33 Oklahoma High School Players
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RE: 33 Oklahoma High School 2013 Football players received IA FB scholarships.
(02-08-2013 11:48 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Each year, about 30 to 40 Oklahoma High School players receive IA scholarships, more than the combined total of the four states of New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, and Nevada. Recuiting analysts are stating that 2014 is going to be a banner recruiting year in Oklahoma, with more prospects and more high quality recruits.

Tulsa has built its recruiting classes starting with Okahoma first and then adding a half-dozen or so from Texas. amd then Kansas, Arkansas, and Missouri (primarily Kansas City area). Oklahoma U and Okla St U have gone deep, very deep into Texas recruiting and the primary beneficiary has been Tulsa. Oklahoma is 1/5 the population of Texas. Therefore, I regard any Top 20 list of Oklahoma high school players equal to a Top 100 listing of Texas high school players. Tulsa signed 7 players of the top 20 on the Oklahoma Super 30 list compiled by the Daily Oklahoman, #3, #5, #8, #12, #13, #19, #20. Tulsa also signed the #22 and #29 off that same list. In addition, TU signed a Top 100 Texas high school player and a Top 10 Arkansas high school player. This is how Tulsa, the smallest IA football playing school with only 4, 167 students, has performed so superbly in CUSA, winning 2 Liberty Bowls since entering the conference whereas the remaining CUSA-11 have won only one combined.

Tulsa: 12
Oklahoma: 4
Oklahoma State: 1

OTHER SCHOOLS:

1. Memphis signed 3 (Memphis coach is from Tulsa).

2. AFA, Navy and UAB signed 2 each, for a total of 6 (UAB coach is from Oklahoma).

3. KSU, Oregon State, West Virginia, Auburn Washington State, New Mexico, and Army signed 1 each, for a total of 7 (Oregon State, WVA, and WSU coaching staff have Oklahoma and Texas ties).

TOTAL: 33 Oklahoma High School Players

This was very, very down year for Oklahoma high school football. According to the Oklahoman, outside of the six players that signed with OU and OSU, only three players signed with BCS schools.
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RE: 33 Oklahoma High School 2013 Football players received IA FB scholarships.
(02-09-2013 04:33 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(02-08-2013 11:48 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Each year, about 30 to 40 Oklahoma High School players receive IA scholarships, more than the combined total of the four states of New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, and Nevada. Recuiting analysts are stating that 2014 is going to be a banner recruiting year in Oklahoma, with more prospects and more high quality recruits.

Tulsa has built its recruiting classes starting with Okahoma first and then adding a half-dozen or so from Texas. amd then Kansas, Arkansas, and Missouri (primarily Kansas City area). Oklahoma U and Okla St U have gone deep, very deep into Texas recruiting and the primary beneficiary has been Tulsa. Oklahoma is 1/5 the population of Texas. Therefore, I regard any Top 20 list of Oklahoma high school players equal to a Top 100 listing of Texas high school players. Tulsa signed 7 players of the top 20 on the Oklahoma Super 30 list compiled by the Daily Oklahoman, #3, #5, #8, #12, #13, #19, #20. Tulsa also signed the #22 and #29 off that same list. In addition, TU signed a Top 100 Texas high school player and a Top 10 Arkansas high school player. This is how Tulsa, the smallest IA football playing school with only 4, 167 students, has performed so superbly in CUSA, winning 2 Liberty Bowls since entering the conference whereas the remaining CUSA-11 have won only one combined.

Tulsa: 12
Oklahoma: 4
Oklahoma State: 1

OTHER SCHOOLS:

1. Memphis signed 3 (Memphis coach is from Tulsa).

2. AFA, Navy and UAB signed 2 each, for a total of 6 (UAB coach is from Oklahoma).

3. KSU, Oregon State, West Virginia, Auburn Washington State, New Mexico, and Army signed 1 each, for a total of 7 (Oregon State, WVA, and WSU coaching staff have Oklahoma and Texas ties).

TOTAL: 33 Oklahoma High School Players

This was very, very down year for Oklahoma high school football. According to the Oklahoman, outside of the six players that signed with OU and OSU, only three players signed with BCS schools.

Most of us put little credence in anything the Oklahoman writes - sportswise. Their sports dept is dedicated to making it seem that OU/OSU get whatever they wish from the state and leave what they don't want to the rest. That is often not true. We call it BCS BS.

The state had an average to above average year and next year is slated to be far better.

BTW, the schools in/near Tulsa have dominated HS football over the last decade and a half in the state and that paper always dismisses OK HS FB because of it - i.e. not being good and dominated by their city teams. So take anything you read in that "rag" as biased.

IMO
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RE: 33 Oklahoma High School 2013 Football players received IA FB scholarships.
(02-09-2013 04:53 PM)rabidTU Wrote:  
(02-09-2013 04:33 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(02-08-2013 11:48 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Each year, about 30 to 40 Oklahoma High School players receive IA scholarships, more than the combined total of the four states of New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, and Nevada. Recuiting analysts are stating that 2014 is going to be a banner recruiting year in Oklahoma, with more prospects and more high quality recruits.

Tulsa has built its recruiting classes starting with Okahoma first and then adding a half-dozen or so from Texas. amd then Kansas, Arkansas, and Missouri (primarily Kansas City area). Oklahoma U and Okla St U have gone deep, very deep into Texas recruiting and the primary beneficiary has been Tulsa. Oklahoma is 1/5 the population of Texas. Therefore, I regard any Top 20 list of Oklahoma high school players equal to a Top 100 listing of Texas high school players. Tulsa signed 7 players of the top 20 on the Oklahoma Super 30 list compiled by the Daily Oklahoman, #3, #5, #8, #12, #13, #19, #20. Tulsa also signed the #22 and #29 off that same list. In addition, TU signed a Top 100 Texas high school player and a Top 10 Arkansas high school player. This is how Tulsa, the smallest IA football playing school with only 4, 167 students, has performed so superbly in CUSA, winning 2 Liberty Bowls since entering the conference whereas the remaining CUSA-11 have won only one combined.

Tulsa: 12
Oklahoma: 4
Oklahoma State: 1

OTHER SCHOOLS:

1. Memphis signed 3 (Memphis coach is from Tulsa).

2. AFA, Navy and UAB signed 2 each, for a total of 6 (UAB coach is from Oklahoma).

3. KSU, Oregon State, West Virginia, Auburn Washington State, New Mexico, and Army signed 1 each, for a total of 7 (Oregon State, WVA, and WSU coaching staff have Oklahoma and Texas ties).

TOTAL: 33 Oklahoma High School Players

This was very, very down year for Oklahoma high school football. According to the Oklahoman, outside of the six players that signed with OU and OSU, only three players signed with BCS schools.

Most of us put little credence in anything the Oklahoman writes - sportswise. Their sports dept is dedicated to making it seem that OU/OSU get whatever they wish from the state and leave what they don't want to the rest. That is often not true. We call it BCS BS.

The state had an average to above average year and next year is slated to be far better.

BTW, the schools in/near Tulsa have dominated HS football over the last decade and a half in the state and that paper always dismisses OK HS FB because of it - i.e. not being good and dominated by their city teams. So take anything you read in that "rag" as biased.

IMO

Who is "us"?

We are talking about a list of players signing LOI and you accuse them of bias. How can a list be biased.

I guess fans are alike the world over. You say the Oklahoman favors OU and OSU. That is funny. Many OSU fans say the paper favors OU and hates OSU. Many OU fans complain about them covering OSU and writing negative stuff about OU. So fans from all three schools think the paper is biased. It seems that a lot of TU fans think all the media is biased against them. They even think the Local newspaper and local TV stations are biased.

FYI the Oklahoman does not cover TU, because there are virtually no TU fans in their subscription area. However, if you do not think the Oklahoman covers high school football, you must not read it very often.

Finally, if it was such a good year for high school football, why did so few players get BCS scholarships. Anyone that follows Oklahoma High School football knows this was a down year.
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RE: 33 Oklahoma High School 2013 Football players received IA FB scholarships.
My apologies if you live in OKC.

I wasn't trying to demean or defame the city or paper. My thoughts and observations about the Daily Oklahoman were arrived at by living in the state most of my life and reading both major newspapers here for decades. I also resided in OKC for about 2 1/2 years and took what a famous Oklahoma editorial writer once called the "Daily Disappointment".

I have discussed this very subject with people in OKC on several occasions and its a prevailing mindset there that somehow the Tulsa area HS teams cheat or get advantages over them because the Tulsa HS teams just dominate. An example is the 6A state championship between Jenks and an OKC area team when the halftime score was something in the neighborhood of 42-14. No contest.

And if you're trying to say that my post was inferring that OK HS football is even or better than Texas, that isn't so. There are about 10 times the number of players in Texas compared to Oklahoma, so no its not comparable.

Lastly, this is the individual "TU" CSNbbs site and most of the people that visit it are rightly so - biased to the Nth degree for TU. I'm sure yours is too. Shouldn't we be?
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RE: 33 Oklahoma High School 2013 Football players received IA FB scholarships.
(02-10-2013 05:01 PM)rabidTU Wrote:  My apologies if you live in OKC.

I wasn't trying to demean or defame the city or paper. My thoughts and observations about the Daily Oklahoman were arrived at by living in the state most of my life and reading both major newspapers here for decades. I also resided in OKC for about 2 1/2 years and took what a famous Oklahoma editorial writer once called the "Daily Disappointment".

I have discussed this very subject with people in OKC on several occasions and its a prevailing mindset there that somehow the Tulsa area HS teams cheat or get advantages over them because the Tulsa HS teams just dominate. An example is the 6A state championship between Jenks and an OKC area team when the halftime score was something in the neighborhood of 42-14. No contest.

And if you're trying to say that my post was inferring that OK HS football is even or better than Texas, that isn't so. There are about 10 times the number of players in Texas compared to Oklahoma, so no its not comparable.

Lastly, this is the individual "TU" CSNbbs site and most of the people that visit it are rightly so - biased to the Nth degree for TU. I'm sure yours is too. Shouldn't we be?

No apology necessary. I have spent most of my life moving back and forth between Oklahoma and Texas. I grew up in Tulsa area and I have lived in OKC and a couple of places in Texas. I do not now live in Oklahoma, but I too have read the Oklahoman and the Tulsa World for decades. My two brothers live in the Tulsa and OKC areas. So I keep up with sports in Oklahoma.

The Oklahoman is a very good, but conservative paper and so some Liberals are disappointed in it. I think Frosy Troy probably made that comment, but I would not call him famous.

When I lived in Tulsa, the World was also a conservative paper, but as Steve Largent, one of your alums pointed out, it is now very liberal. He has also complimented the Oklahoman.

The Tulsa area schools do dominate high school foootball, but I never heard any animosty or jealously in OKC toward the Tulsa schools. I certainly never mentioned anything about that. So why bring it up. Who really cares. It is just kids. However, I do think it is common knowledge even in Tulsa that Jenks and Union recruit players.

I have no idea where you got the idea that I compared Oklahoma schools to Texas high school football. I said nothing and I care nothing about that.

All of this is to reply to your comments, even though they have nothing to do with the original discussion.....which was about bias in the Oklahoman towards TU. I suspect you are somewhat of a politician, by the way you change the subject and go off on tangents when you have no rebuttal to the original topic.

I realize this is on the TU Individual CSNbbssite. However my first post in this thread was in reply to a Tallgrass link on the realignment board. Then you responded to my post. I was just pointing out the failure of some of your comments.

If you will notice the point of my post, was that most fans are biased. However, it seems TU fans, as you say, carry it to the Nth degree.

By the way I am a half hearted Tulsa fan. Once an Okie always an Okie.
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I'm trying to keep this site as civil and non confrontational as I can muster, so lets just say that we aren't communicating our POV very well and leave it at that. It looks like neither of us is going to sway the other away from their opinions - thats certainly not my intent, but thanks for dropping by.

BTW I've bumped a thread I did during the CFB season where I did a study of how well the TW world was covering TU in comparison to the other state schools. You might find it interesting. It was as simple as I could make it, but I think tells a lot about sports media bias or nonbias if you wish.

I called it "Tulsa World - Feet to the Fire".
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(02-11-2013 12:08 AM)rabidTU Wrote:  I'm trying to keep this site as civil and non confrontational as I can muster, so lets just say that we aren't communicating our POV very well and leave it at that. It looks like neither of us is going to sway the other away from their opinions - thats certainly not my intent, but thanks for dropping by.

BTW I've bumped a thread I did during the CFB season where I did a study of how well the TW world was covering TU in comparison to the other state schools. You might find it interesting. It was as simple as I could make it, but I think tells a lot about sports media bias or nonbias if you wish.

I called it "Tulsa World - Feet to the Fire".

I also try to keep things civil, after all is just sports. However, I think I communicated my original post very well, when I simply responded to a Tallgrass post on the relignment board and pointed out the Oklahoman had a "list" of high school players that received scholarships...and that list indicated a down year for Oklahoma high school football because of the lack of BCS scholarships.

Then you responded saying the Oklahoman was a biased paper and talking about Tulsa area high school football versus OKC area football and their fans etc. That was the communication failure.

I agree with you that there is no point in continuing this discussion.

Best wishes with your board.
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