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Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
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Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
A. CUSA-12 renegotiated its contract 3 years ago and received about $1.2M per CUSA school.

B. Houston, SMU, Tulane, Memphis, UCF, and ECU, the designated superior attractive schools added former AQ schools Cincy, UConn, and UCF plus adding Navy and jettisoned what are considered the worst CUSA schools of Tulsa, Rice, UTEP, UAB, Southern Miss, and Marshall, and then was able to renegotiate its TV contract in what is considered the most opportune time of rapidily boosted conference tv contracts.

(1) The collection of "superior" schools, (2) the jettisoning of "inferior" schools, and (3) renegotiating a tv contract in a time of rapidly rising tv college conference tv contracts should have seen a very lucrative Nbe tv contract. Why, then, is it that Nbe, with three very strong factors in its advantage, only able to negotiate a Nbe tv contract worth only $500,000 more per CUSA school (on a CUSA contract negotiated 3 years ago)?

When you consider the 3 strong advantages of Nbe, the low $1.7M per Nbe is surprisingly low.

C. C7 will earn somewhere between $3M to $4M per basketball playing school. Two broadcast netoworks, ESPN and FOX are bidding against each other to get the C7. The lesson to be drawn here is that the market truly does reward those with a worthy product...and refute any advanced conspiracy theory that a Network or networks are actively working to undermine a college conference.

Perhaps there are some positives in the realignment circus. All schools have been evaluated by broadcast outlets. No school can now complain that its respective conference is "holding us back."
(This post was last modified: 02-23-2013 11:32 AM by Tallgrass.)
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
I'm sure this is another gym from Trollgrass.
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
The Big East is clearly the #6 conference in terms of economics, but we have a chance to do better on the field than the Big 10 & ACC if some of our programs step up (Memphis, Tulane, etc.). I think they can do that.

UConn outrecruited our two local ACC rivals (Syracuse and Boston College) by a mile this year, so that shows the Big East can be competitive.
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Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
The NBE will likely receive 7.0 million per team every year with Tournament and Bowl payouts.
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
once again a 100% misleading post from the Troll....

CUSA gets 14 million. 12 teams. That WAS 1.2 million dollars. But, there's now 14 teams with the same money. So 1 Million dollars
NBE gets 20 million from ESPN and 2 million from CBS(for basketball). If for even 12 teams that's 1.8 million dollars. 11 teams gets 2 million. Oh, and there may be another package available for sale which would get more money.

Oh, and CUSA easily could see LESS money in 3 years as they have been put in the SBC place now.
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
It's surprising to me that UConn and UC aren't going with the C7. They would have probably double up on TV money and topped off a really nice basketball conference. IMO they stayed put because more realignment is coming this year and they know it.
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
All this C-7 money is just pure speculation right now, besides 30 million by 12 teams is 2.5 million a team, which is more in line with everything else that is going on.
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
I know that this is the Tin Foil Hat board, but maybe UC and UConn aren't going to the C7 for a very simple reason.

"They will also have to agree to surrender their media rights to the conference for a significant number of years — possibly the life of the league’s first TV contract, whether that’s five, seven or 10 years." WaPo C7 Article
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
(02-23-2013 11:37 AM)stever20 Wrote:  once again a 100% misleading post from the Troll....

CUSA gets 14 million. 12 teams. That WAS 1.2 million dollars. But, there's now 14 teams with the same money. So 1 Million dollars
NBE gets 20 million from ESPN and 2 million from CBS(for basketball). If for even 12 teams that's 1.8 million dollars. 11 teams gets 2 million. Oh, and there may be another package available for sale which would get more money.

Oh, and CUSA easily could see LESS money in 3 years as they have been put in the SBC place now.

No poster on these boards has less credibility than Tallgrass. More often than not, the text of the article says the opposite of what he writes on the subject line.
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
(02-23-2013 12:02 PM)LostInSpace Wrote:  I know that this is the Tin Foil Hat board, but maybe UC and UConn aren't going to the C7 for a very simple reason.

"They will also have to agree to surrender their media rights to the conference for a significant number of years — possibly the life of the league’s first TV contract, whether that’s five, seven or 10 years." WaPo C7 Article

Well I know as little as you even with my brand new tin foil hat. Maybe an exception would have been made for UConn and UC. I think I will dump my hat and by me a new crystal ball.
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
I'll give him this, Tallgrass certainly never fails to generate his share of responses.
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
(02-23-2013 10:39 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I'm sure this is another gym from Trollgrass.

Gem...you did mean gem right?
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
(02-23-2013 02:04 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(02-23-2013 10:39 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I'm sure this is another gym from Trollgrass.

Gem...you did mean gem right?

Reading b0ndsj0ns all these years, it was intentionally sarcasm relating to the junk that "Trollgrass" -aka- Tallgrass puts out there.
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
Tallgrass just curious to where you are getting your 1.7 figure. The BE deal pays 22M per year. Right now there are 10 teams. If no one is added, that is 2.2M per year. If Navy is added as expected, it drops to 2M. There is no requirement to go to 12, but if the BE did, it would drop to 1.83. Plus the BE is still expected to negotiate secondary rights for additional money. Plus with the other streams of revenue the BE will be far ahead of CUSA (although admittedly far, far below the ACC, etc).

CUSA gets 14M for 14 teams. 1 million per. Not sure where you are getting 1.2M.
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
He has no intention to be right. He is egging everyone on. Plus, I think he believes that the more he says something enough times over and over (even if it's intentionally wrong) that people will start to accept it as fact.
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
(02-23-2013 08:58 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  He has no intention to be right. He is egging everyone on. Plus, I think he believes that the more he says something enough times over and over (even if it's intentionally wrong) that people will start to accept it as fact.

lol...that works in politics.
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
(02-23-2013 09:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-23-2013 08:58 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  He has no intention to be right. He is egging everyone on. Plus, I think he believes that the more he says something enough times over and over (even if it's intentionally wrong) that people will start to accept it as fact.

lol...that works in politics.

And maybe one of the reasons politicians are hated so much.
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
(02-23-2013 11:33 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  The Big East is clearly the #6 conference in terms of economics, but we have a chance to do better on the field than the Big 10 & ACC if some of our programs step up (Memphis, Tulane, etc.). I think they can do that.

UConn outrecruited our two local ACC rivals (Syracuse and Boston College) by a mile this year, so that shows the Big East can be competitive.

Actually, no, no they aren't.

It's absolutely amazing how the nbe goobs are STILL chest thumping even after being told for months they were grossly overstating their worth and merely a day or two after being informed by the worldwide leader of sports reporting that they are worth no more than a sack full of peanuts and a pat on the ass.

Amazing.
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
It will be interesting to see where the MWC ends up after selling off the game packages to two other networks permitted by its renegotiated CBS deal. Its annual TV revenue will presumably be the sum of payments from three networks. Some MWC board posters are saying the numbers will emerge in the next few weeks.

However the numbers may not be directly comparable to those of other conferences, since under the renegotiated CBS deal, the MWC member schools appear to have retained tier 3 rights which they can sell to local broadcast partners for additional revenue. Those rights alone are worth over $2 million per year to Hawaii.
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RE: Reflection Per School: CUSA ($1.2M), Nbe ($1.7M), and C7 ($3M-$4M)
(02-23-2013 09:24 PM)WinOrLoseEAGLE Wrote:  
(02-23-2013 11:33 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  The Big East is clearly the #6 conference in terms of economics, but we have a chance to do better on the field than the Big 10 & ACC if some of our programs step up (Memphis, Tulane, etc.). I think they can do that.

UConn outrecruited our two local ACC rivals (Syracuse and Boston College) by a mile this year, so that shows the Big East can be competitive.

Actually, no, no they aren't.

It's absolutely amazing how the nbe goobs are STILL chest thumping even after being told for months they were grossly overstating their worth and merely a day or two after being informed by the worldwide leader of sports reporting that they are worth no more than a sack full of peanuts and a pat on the ass.

Amazing.

You're a fool.
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