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RE: How smart will Mike Slive look if he wakes up one morning and the B1G has
The conference brand battle is not UT vs A&M. It's B12 vs SEC

A&M gives the people of a FB crazy state a chance to root for one of their schools in CFB's best conference.

UT has to convince them they care about any Big 12 matchup outside the Red River game.

I believe the SEC brand wins that battle for public interest in Texas and so far, the TV ratings back me up.

I mean hell, Austin had the highest ratings delivery in the entire state for A&M/Bama
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(02-25-2013 12:21 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  Actually the SEC probably is the premier brand in Texas, or will be very soon.

People keep acting like A&M won a national title or even the SEC. The aggies won the Cotton Bowl. A lot of people from outside the state of Texas are lacking perspective. Since teams have been wearing facemasks, A&M has as many national championships in football as Sarah Lawrence College.

Rivals, Scout and 247 all rated the A&M 2013 recruiting class significantly higher than Texas' class.

Texas took 28 kids the year before and had a small class this year. If you look at the average star rating per player, Texas still had a better recruiting class than A&M.
I lived in Abilene for several years. They were not real big on the Longhorns. Austin likes to believe that they represent the state. They don't. UT should be wiping out everybody in the Big XII. Not happening.
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(02-25-2013 12:31 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  The conference brand battle is not UT vs A&M. It's B12 vs SEC

A&M gives the people of a FB crazy state a chance to root for one of their schools in CFB's best conference.

UT has to convince them they care about any Big 12 matchup outside the Red River game.

I believe the SEC brand wins that battle for public interest in Texas and so far, the TV ratings back me up.

I mean hell, Austin had the highest ratings delivery in the entire state for A&M/Bama

That may all be well and true, but it doesn't translate into your earlier comment about NC State. NC State will NEVER be the biggest brand in North Carolina, regardless of what conference they are in.
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RE: How smart will Mike Slive look if he wakes up one morning and the B1G has
(02-25-2013 01:11 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 12:31 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  The conference brand battle is not UT vs A&M. It's B12 vs SEC

A&M gives the people of a FB crazy state a chance to root for one of their schools in CFB's best conference.

UT has to convince them they care about any Big 12 matchup outside the Red River game.

I believe the SEC brand wins that battle for public interest in Texas and so far, the TV ratings back me up.

I mean hell, Austin had the highest ratings delivery in the entire state for A&M/Bama

That may all be well and true, but it doesn't translate into your earlier comment about NC State. NC State will NEVER be the biggest brand in North Carolina, regardless of what conference they are in.

North Carolina State will be fodder in the SEC. They will serve their purpose by getting the SEC in that state and at the same time not rocking the boat as far as the hierarchy goes. UNC is a different story. They are a much stronger Brand. The SEC might have to position them differently as far as divisions go when conferences can expand the number of divisions they have.

In that regard, it might surprise some folks if we found out that NC State actually better serves the purpose the SEC would need from it's North Carolina school.
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(02-25-2013 10:07 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 01:11 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 12:31 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  The conference brand battle is not UT vs A&M. It's B12 vs SEC

A&M gives the people of a FB crazy state a chance to root for one of their schools in CFB's best conference.

UT has to convince them they care about any Big 12 matchup outside the Red River game.

I believe the SEC brand wins that battle for public interest in Texas and so far, the TV ratings back me up.

I mean hell, Austin had the highest ratings delivery in the entire state for A&M/Bama

That may all be well and true, but it doesn't translate into your earlier comment about NC State. NC State will NEVER be the biggest brand in North Carolina, regardless of what conference they are in.

North Carolina State will be fodder in the SEC. They will serve their purpose by getting the SEC in that state and at the same time not rocking the boat as far as the hierarchy goes. UNC is a different story. They are a much stronger Brand. The SEC might have to position them differently as far as divisions go when conferences can expand the number of divisions they have.

In that regard, it might surprise some folks if we found out that NC State actually better serves the purpose the SEC would need from it's North Carolina school.

isn't that what we said about South Carolina many years ago? Now look at them. The SEC brand is so strong, if NC State goes SEC- it changes everything in the relationship. I'd compare it to what we've seen already in just 1 year in Texas with little brother Texas A&M going to the SEC and turning the tables on Texas in just months. now I'm not saying NC State comes into the SEC and does well like A&M did- but eventually the potential exists for that to happen. You can not make the blanket statement that NC St will never be the biggest brand in NC.
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You have to ask yourself: who will NC's people care more about following? UNC vs B1G teams or NC State against SEC teams?
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(02-25-2013 10:33 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  You have to ask yourself: who will NC's people care more about following? UNC vs B1G teams or NC State against SEC teams?

Conference Tournaments and a 20 team expansion all the way down the east coast could make a difference. If UNC lands in that tournament more than NC State lands in the SEC Tournament then I think folks will follow the winner because the other won't even be on TV at that time.
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(02-25-2013 10:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 10:07 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 01:11 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 12:31 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  The conference brand battle is not UT vs A&M. It's B12 vs SEC

A&M gives the people of a FB crazy state a chance to root for one of their schools in CFB's best conference.

UT has to convince them they care about any Big 12 matchup outside the Red River game.

I believe the SEC brand wins that battle for public interest in Texas and so far, the TV ratings back me up.

I mean hell, Austin had the highest ratings delivery in the entire state for A&M/Bama

That may all be well and true, but it doesn't translate into your earlier comment about NC State. NC State will NEVER be the biggest brand in North Carolina, regardless of what conference they are in.

North Carolina State will be fodder in the SEC. They will serve their purpose by getting the SEC in that state and at the same time not rocking the boat as far as the hierarchy goes. UNC is a different story. They are a much stronger Brand. The SEC might have to position them differently as far as divisions go when conferences can expand the number of divisions they have.

In that regard, it might surprise some folks if we found out that NC State actually better serves the purpose the SEC would need from it's North Carolina school.

isn't that what we said about South Carolina many years ago? Now look at them. The SEC brand is so strong, if NC State goes SEC- it changes everything in the relationship. I'd compare it to what we've seen already in just 1 year in Texas with little brother Texas A&M going to the SEC and turning the tables on Texas in just months. now I'm not saying NC State comes into the SEC and does well like A&M did- but eventually the potential exists for that to happen. You can not make the blanket statement that NC St will never be the biggest brand in NC.

How many years ago did South Carolina join?
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(02-25-2013 10:38 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 10:33 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  You have to ask yourself: who will NC's people care more about following? UNC vs B1G teams or NC State against SEC teams?

Conference Tournaments and a 20 team expansion all the way down the east coast could make a difference. If UNC lands in that tournament more than NC State lands in the SEC Tournament then I think folks will follow the winner because the other won't even be on TV at that time.

He1nous, the fallacy in the reasoning of the Big 10 is that no matter how much money they throw at any teams they garner to expand down the coast Southward they will only be wasting their time. The recruits will stay at home to play. Any school including Florida State, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, and Virginia had better be counting on the research money because Southern athletes are not going to want to play in a Northern conference. They don't even go in numbers to the Big 12, but at least the Big 12 is still somewhat Southern.

Virginia, North Carolina and even Florida State are smart enough to know this. Georgia Tech is more interested in the grant money. They are a great school with a great history and they love their sports too, but truly education is their primary focus. I could see them being very happy in the Big 10 except for........Baseball. The Jackets love their baseball. That may prove to be a snag. We'll see.

In the history of the world every empire (including the OFF TACKLE one) expands wildly right before implosion. If the Big 10 moves in this fashion it will be their eventual undoing. They would be much wiser to grow their influence in New England. But we'll see.
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(02-25-2013 10:31 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
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(02-24-2013 05:51 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  If that happens then the plan proceeds as usual: Take NC State and Virginia Tech and use the superior SEC brand to make those states SEC states.

The SEC is then the premiere brand in every state it is located in.

Seems pretty smart to me.
Except Texas 03-lmfao
Actually the SEC probably is the premier brand in Texas, or will be very soon.
I'd say A&M has at least made a pretty good case that they will challenge for that position. Rivals, Scout and 247 all rated the A&M 2013 recruiting class significantly higher than Texas' class. A&M's class was ranked 10th, 11th and sixth, while Texas was ranked 24th, 17th and 22nd. Since Texas traditionally has top 10, if not top 5 classes, there is possibly a correlation between A&M being in the SEC and their highly ranked class and Texas' fall in the rankings. Time will tell.
A&M also had many more recruits than Texas. A&M had 32 scholarships available for 2013. The Longhorns only had 16 scholarships available. Doubling the number of recruits most likely had a good deal to do with that...

Texas had higher rated recruits on average. And other than A&M and a couple of players nabbed by Alabama, the SEC did nothing in Texas recruiting this year. It was a much worse year than usual. It was still Big 12 + A&M take who they want, then others get the rest.
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(02-25-2013 10:39 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 10:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 10:07 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 01:11 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 12:31 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  The conference brand battle is not UT vs A&M. It's B12 vs SEC

A&M gives the people of a FB crazy state a chance to root for one of their schools in CFB's best conference.

UT has to convince them they care about any Big 12 matchup outside the Red River game.

I believe the SEC brand wins that battle for public interest in Texas and so far, the TV ratings back me up.

I mean hell, Austin had the highest ratings delivery in the entire state for A&M/Bama

That may all be well and true, but it doesn't translate into your earlier comment about NC State. NC State will NEVER be the biggest brand in North Carolina, regardless of what conference they are in.

North Carolina State will be fodder in the SEC. They will serve their purpose by getting the SEC in that state and at the same time not rocking the boat as far as the hierarchy goes. UNC is a different story. They are a much stronger Brand. The SEC might have to position them differently as far as divisions go when conferences can expand the number of divisions they have.

In that regard, it might surprise some folks if we found out that NC State actually better serves the purpose the SEC would need from it's North Carolina school.

isn't that what we said about South Carolina many years ago? Now look at them. The SEC brand is so strong, if NC State goes SEC- it changes everything in the relationship. I'd compare it to what we've seen already in just 1 year in Texas with little brother Texas A&M going to the SEC and turning the tables on Texas in just months. now I'm not saying NC State comes into the SEC and does well like A&M did- but eventually the potential exists for that to happen. You can not make the blanket statement that NC St will never be the biggest brand in NC.

How many years ago did South Carolina join?
20 years- but all it took was finding the right coach.

Also- the SEC today is a LOT different than the SEC 20 years ago. Got to remember in 1992 when SC came aboard, the SEC hadn't won a title since Herschel Walker and Georgia.
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(02-25-2013 11:34 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 10:39 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 10:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 10:07 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 01:11 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  That may all be well and true, but it doesn't translate into your earlier comment about NC State. NC State will NEVER be the biggest brand in North Carolina, regardless of what conference they are in.

North Carolina State will be fodder in the SEC. They will serve their purpose by getting the SEC in that state and at the same time not rocking the boat as far as the hierarchy goes. UNC is a different story. They are a much stronger Brand. The SEC might have to position them differently as far as divisions go when conferences can expand the number of divisions they have.

In that regard, it might surprise some folks if we found out that NC State actually better serves the purpose the SEC would need from it's North Carolina school.

isn't that what we said about South Carolina many years ago? Now look at them. The SEC brand is so strong, if NC State goes SEC- it changes everything in the relationship. I'd compare it to what we've seen already in just 1 year in Texas with little brother Texas A&M going to the SEC and turning the tables on Texas in just months. now I'm not saying NC State comes into the SEC and does well like A&M did- but eventually the potential exists for that to happen. You can not make the blanket statement that NC St will never be the biggest brand in NC.

How many years ago did South Carolina join?
20 years- but all it took was finding the right coach.

Also- the SEC today is a LOT different than the SEC 20 years ago. Got to remember in 1992 when SC came aboard, the SEC hadn't won a title since Herschel Walker and Georgia.

It was just as tough in the days of Herschel and Bo as it is today. But remember back then you had to hold the top spots in the AP and the bowl tie ins meant that you wouldn't be matched up against a top 5 team in most years. In the end it always came down to a vote and the vast majority of sportswriters were in New England and on the West coast. That's why Southern teams seldom won the mythical national championship and why the BCS was welcomed in spite of its imperfections. However, I'm in the minority of wanting a champions only playoff. I just feel that is the only fair way to decide the championship. No polls. No votes.
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(02-25-2013 11:48 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 11:34 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 10:39 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 10:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 10:07 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  North Carolina State will be fodder in the SEC. They will serve their purpose by getting the SEC in that state and at the same time not rocking the boat as far as the hierarchy goes. UNC is a different story. They are a much stronger Brand. The SEC might have to position them differently as far as divisions go when conferences can expand the number of divisions they have.

In that regard, it might surprise some folks if we found out that NC State actually better serves the purpose the SEC would need from it's North Carolina school.

isn't that what we said about South Carolina many years ago? Now look at them. The SEC brand is so strong, if NC State goes SEC- it changes everything in the relationship. I'd compare it to what we've seen already in just 1 year in Texas with little brother Texas A&M going to the SEC and turning the tables on Texas in just months. now I'm not saying NC State comes into the SEC and does well like A&M did- but eventually the potential exists for that to happen. You can not make the blanket statement that NC St will never be the biggest brand in NC.

How many years ago did South Carolina join?
20 years- but all it took was finding the right coach.

Also- the SEC today is a LOT different than the SEC 20 years ago. Got to remember in 1992 when SC came aboard, the SEC hadn't won a title since Herschel Walker and Georgia.

It was just as tough in the days of Herschel and Bo as it is today. But remember back then you had to hold the top spots in the AP and the bowl tie ins meant that you wouldn't be matched up against a top 5 team in most years. In the end it always came down to a vote and the vast majority of sportswriters were in New England and on the West coast. That's why Southern teams seldom won the mythical national championship and why the BCS was welcomed in spite of its imperfections. However, I'm in the minority of wanting a champions only playoff. I just feel that is the only fair way to decide the championship. No polls. No votes.

disagree about how the SEC was in that period..

from 1981-1991 seasons(the gap between the Georgia 80 title and Alabama 92 title)
Auburn 10t 94 wins
Alabama 12 93 wins
Tennessee/Georgia 14t 90 wins
Florida 17t 87 wins
LSU 32t 73 wins

compare to the last 11 years from 2002-2012 seasons
LSU 3 115 wins
Georgia 5t 110 wins
Florida 8 106 wins(Alabama has 106 wins, loses 23 to vacated games)
Auburn 14t 97 wins
Arkansas 36t 83 wins
S Carolina 38t 82 wins
Tennessee 43t 80 wins
(also, Missouri 28t with 86 wins)

it's a LOT better now than before. 4 of the top 10 teams in the last 11 years.
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(02-25-2013 11:34 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
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(02-25-2013 01:11 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  That may all be well and true, but it doesn't translate into your earlier comment about NC State. NC State will NEVER be the biggest brand in North Carolina, regardless of what conference they are in.

North Carolina State will be fodder in the SEC. They will serve their purpose by getting the SEC in that state and at the same time not rocking the boat as far as the hierarchy goes. UNC is a different story. They are a much stronger Brand. The SEC might have to position them differently as far as divisions go when conferences can expand the number of divisions they have.

In that regard, it might surprise some folks if we found out that NC State actually better serves the purpose the SEC would need from it's North Carolina school.

isn't that what we said about South Carolina many years ago? Now look at them. The SEC brand is so strong, if NC State goes SEC- it changes everything in the relationship. I'd compare it to what we've seen already in just 1 year in Texas with little brother Texas A&M going to the SEC and turning the tables on Texas in just months. now I'm not saying NC State comes into the SEC and does well like A&M did- but eventually the potential exists for that to happen. You can not make the blanket statement that NC St will never be the biggest brand in NC.

How many years ago did South Carolina join?
20 years- but all it took was finding the right coach.

Also- the SEC today is a LOT different than the SEC 20 years ago. Got to remember in 1992 when SC came aboard, the SEC hadn't won a title since Herschel Walker and Georgia.

Just ask Tennessee how easy that task is and you can consider North Carolina in the northern portion of the Southeast. They would face the same obstacles as Tennessee is facing in today's SEC.
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(02-25-2013 10:33 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  You have to ask yourself: who will NC's people care more about following? UNC vs B1G teams or NC State against SEC teams?

Conference Tournaments and a 20 team expansion all the way down the east coast could make a difference. If UNC lands in that tournament more than NC State lands in the SEC Tournament then I think folks will follow the winner because the other won't even be on TV at that time.

He1nous, the fallacy in the reasoning of the Big 10 is that no matter how much money they throw at any teams they garner to expand down the coast Southward they will only be wasting their time. The recruits will stay at home to play. Any school including Florida State, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, and Virginia had better be counting on the research money because Southern athletes are not going to want to play in a Northern conference. They don't even go in numbers to the Big 12, but at least the Big 12 is still somewhat Southern.

Virginia, North Carolina and even Florida State are smart enough to know this. Georgia Tech is more interested in the grant money. They are a great school with a great history and they love their sports too, but truly education is their primary focus. I could see them being very happy in the Big 10 except for........Baseball. The Jackets love their baseball. That may prove to be a snag. We'll see.

In the history of the world every empire (including the OFF TACKLE one) expands wildly right before implosion. If the Big 10 moves in this fashion it will be their eventual undoing. They would be much wiser to grow their influence in New England. But we'll see.

There are strong recruits in the South that do not get picked up by the SEC. Many of them end up in the next tier down. We are seeing strong athletes at such schools as USF and UCF. With the Big Ten moving into the South THOSE are the targets and yes they would pick Big Ten northern schools in that scenario because they will be more visible in the South with those locations.

You can continue to hate on the Big Ten and push your ideas of blocking them but I find that funny since the two ideas are conflicting in nature.

If we see a Big Ten tournament some day with the likes of FSU, OSU, PSU and say Nebraska that will be a VERY visible tournament and yes kids in the South will be seeing that due to Big Ten expanding South. You can go ahead and keep on believing that a Big Ten presence in the South won't help the league recruit southern players if you like but that visibility will change things.

We are not talking 5 stars right away. We are talking about the next tier down. Most Big Ten teams just need that one speedster at receiver and maybe one speedster corner to be the lock down cornerback. You don't need the very best for that. You just need a quality kid with good athletics that is willing to work hard.
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(02-25-2013 10:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 10:07 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 01:11 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 12:31 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  The conference brand battle is not UT vs A&M. It's B12 vs SEC

A&M gives the people of a FB crazy state a chance to root for one of their schools in CFB's best conference.

UT has to convince them they care about any Big 12 matchup outside the Red River game.

I believe the SEC brand wins that battle for public interest in Texas and so far, the TV ratings back me up.

I mean hell, Austin had the highest ratings delivery in the entire state for A&M/Bama

That may all be well and true, but it doesn't translate into your earlier comment about NC State. NC State will NEVER be the biggest brand in North Carolina, regardless of what conference they are in.

North Carolina State will be fodder in the SEC. They will serve their purpose by getting the SEC in that state and at the same time not rocking the boat as far as the hierarchy goes. UNC is a different story. They are a much stronger Brand. The SEC might have to position them differently as far as divisions go when conferences can expand the number of divisions they have.

In that regard, it might surprise some folks if we found out that NC State actually better serves the purpose the SEC would need from it's North Carolina school.

isn't that what we said about South Carolina many years ago? Now look at them. The SEC brand is so strong, if NC State goes SEC- it changes everything in the relationship. I'd compare it to what we've seen already in just 1 year in Texas with little brother Texas A&M going to the SEC and turning the tables on Texas in just months. now I'm not saying NC State comes into the SEC and does well like A&M did- but eventually the potential exists for that to happen. You can not make the blanket statement that NC St will never be the biggest brand in NC.

Sure I can, because it is the absolute truth. Forget South Carolina - they have two FBS schools - NC has six. If NC State were even close to UNC right now, it would be possible. Problem is, they are a distant third, and they have UNCC coming on behind them. NC State is an urban school in Raleigh with a campus that is spread over a wide area - and their stadium is far away from most of it. At best in the SEC they would be like Miss St., always competing with an in-state rival and never breaking free from them.

I think that the above comment is correct in that UNC fans would much rather see UNC in the B1G (if they have to go somewhere), and that, accordingly, NC State serves the SEC purpose in NC just as well (without the headache of a school that is used to getting their way).
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Well I wouldn't go so far as to say UNC fans would rather be in the Big Ten than the SEC. You might be able to say that about Duke fans but not UNC fans. If there is any desire within UNC to join the Big Ten over the SEC then I would say that is near the top with the intellectual elites and power brokers who know how much political power and influence the Big Ten has garnered with all of their research contracts.

That is something that the unwashed masses of carolina blue wearing fans just cannot comprehend.
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(02-26-2013 11:03 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Well I wouldn't go so far as to say UNC fans would rather be in the Big Ten than the SEC. You might be able to say that about Duke fans but not UNC fans. If there is any desire within UNC to join the Big Ten over the SEC then I would say that is near the top with the intellectual elites and power brokers who know how much political power and influence the Big Ten has garnered with all of their research contracts.

That is something that the unwashed masses of carolina blue wearing fans just cannot comprehend.

The "unwashed masses" are the reason college sports has gotten so big that we talk about it on message boards. The "unwashed masses" deserve to see their school play schools around where they live. Our intellectual elites can survive without the Big 10 and the flyover states in which your esteemed institutions reside.
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(02-26-2013 11:12 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(02-26-2013 11:03 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Well I wouldn't go so far as to say UNC fans would rather be in the Big Ten than the SEC. You might be able to say that about Duke fans but not UNC fans. If there is any desire within UNC to join the Big Ten over the SEC then I would say that is near the top with the intellectual elites and power brokers who know how much political power and influence the Big Ten has garnered with all of their research contracts.

That is something that the unwashed masses of carolina blue wearing fans just cannot comprehend.

The "unwashed masses" are the reason college sports has gotten so big that we talk about it on message boards. The "unwashed masses" deserve to see their school play schools around where they live. Our intellectual elites can survive without the Big 10 and the flyover states in which your esteemed institutions reside.

To the intellectual elites and administrators of the University, college sports are not the priority. That is the difference between them and the unwashed masses. Politics are involved. I know you will disagree and that is fine. Your fandom that borders on insanity is what fuels the UNC athletic program and that is good. You serve your purpose, you just don't seem to understand what goes on above you.
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