They are ND, they have the Manti clause, the exit fees were just an internet love affair, they won't pay anything.

(03-05-2013 04:41 PM)Eagleweiser Wrote:  They are ND, they have the Manti clause, the exit fees were just an internet love affair, they won't pay anything.

LAME

Everyone knows the exit fees died of cancer.

(03-05-2013 05:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 03:57 PM)natibeast21 Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 03:54 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 03:39 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Also, as outraged as I want to be for the incoming schools, I can't really think of a good reason why they should get any more than they are getting for upgrading leagues. They are all still going to improve their respective lots in life so I'm not going to hold a wake for them either just yet.

Really? When did starting from scratch become an upgrade? By the way, we are now 10 days and counting since the ESPN contract was approved by ESPN and not signed by the BE presidents.

I have to agree with the first post. Seriously though, for what reason do the new schools deserve more money. Its part of joining a new conference is not having all the power right away. Cincy, Uconn, and USF were all in the conference when this junk was going on not the new schools.

When were the left behind 3 damaged? This year? Next? The year after? If the incoming schools were to be sharing the same conference begging on 2013 how are there future prospects being harmed any less than the existing 3. Since joining, Houson has watched the conference lose 13 teams. AQ status, 30% of its CURRENT media income, and its name. It's difficult to see how our future prospects have not been massively impacted. Despite this, I doubt we have a claim on exit fee income. However, the conferences last remaining significant asset was its name. That name recognition provided a significant leg up in recruiting for the newbie teams. There is little doubt that the existing teams looted the conference of the name and the pocketed the vast majority of the proceeds against the expressed wishes of the incoming teams. That's a pretty blatant act of bad faith as is a pathetic way to start a conference relationship.

Let me get this straight--- UC, UConn and USF have actually played under the BE banner for years, have lost all their rivals (that they actually played against), lost the AQ status that they actually possessed and had a reduction in their actual media contract but Houston is the one who is damaged here? GTFOHWTS!

(03-05-2013 05:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 03:57 PM)natibeast21 Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 03:54 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 03:39 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Also, as outraged as I want to be for the incoming schools, I can't really think of a good reason why they should get any more than they are getting for upgrading leagues. They are all still going to improve their respective lots in life so I'm not going to hold a wake for them either just yet.

Really? When did starting from scratch become an upgrade? By the way, we are now 10 days and counting since the ESPN contract was approved by ESPN and not signed by the BE presidents.

I have to agree with the first post. Seriously though, for what reason do the new schools deserve more money. Its part of joining a new conference is not having all the power right away. Cincy, Uconn, and USF were all in the conference when this junk was going on not the new schools.

When were the left behind 3 damaged? This year? Next? The year after?

They were in a BCS-AQ conference. Now they're where you were. That's not damage?

Quote:If the incoming schools were to be sharing the same conference begging on 2013 how are there future prospects being harmed any less than the existing 3.

You're back where you were, minus a $2.5M Big East entry fee and a $500,000 C-USA exit fee.

Quote:Since joining, Houson has watched the conference lose 13 teams. AQ status, 30% of its CURRENT media income, and its name. It's difficult to see how our future prospects have not been massively impacted.

Your future was damaged. Their existing status was damaged. You could be "made whole" with a $3M check and membership in a lower-FBS conference--back where you were before the carousel started spinning.

Quote:Despite this, I doubt we have a claim on exit fee income. However, the conferences last remaining significant asset was its name. That name recognition provided a significant leg up in recruiting for the newbie teams. There is little doubt that the existing teams looted the conference of the name and the pocketed the vast majority of the proceeds against the expressed wishes of the incoming teams. That's a pretty blatant act of bad faith as is a pathetic way to start a conference relationship.

Agreed. Given the cash split of $10M for the C7, $10M for the newbies, and $90M for the holdovers, it's not subtle what happened.

So assuming USF, Cincinnati, and Connecticut save their payout and use it offset the lost revenue, how many years before do those three suffer a real drop in revenue?

my opinion only on the payouts from the ncaa credits and exit fee money for the non catholic bigeast is that uconn,cincy and usf deserve the most, but id say 30mil is too much,id give them around 25mil each ,c7 gets 10.5mil,conference keeps 5 let the incoming members share the 23.5mil left

If the 3 amigos look at this from a short term business sense, paying the 7 exactly how much it takes to keep them to stay is the perfect amount. If they want a more long term relationship that might not be the best way to go.

The $30 million number is a HUGE assumption on this guy's part....consider the timing of this agreement....which is NOW. Temple already played a football season in the BE, does anyone really think they aren't entitled to some more money? Consider that Memphis et al...have been committed to the nBE for over a year....and that is supposed to mean nothing? Even ECU and Tulane came in when the C7 was still there (not Rutgers and L-ville)....so some of this settlement regarding C7 and the name and such will be going their way.

The Jersey Guy has some inside info but is a sloppy journalist....always keep that in mind when reading his stuff.

id figure tulane and ecu would get the least

(03-05-2013 07:40 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  The $30 million number is a HUGE assumption on this guy's part....consider the timing of this agreement....which is NOW. Temple already played a football season in the BE, does anyone really think they aren't entitled to some more money?

Let's have a vote on whether Temple gets any money.
Temple: Aye.*
UConn: NAY
USF: NAY
UC: NAY

*On the assumption that Temple gets a vote. Their AD says they do, the bylaws say they don't, we haven't seen their entrance contracts.

Quote:Consider that Memphis et al...have been committed to the nBE for over a year....and that is supposed to mean nothing? Even ECU and Tulane came in when the C7 was still there (not Rutgers and L-ville)....so some of this settlement regarding C7 and the name and such will be going their way.

Should they get some of the loot? Let's take a vote.

UConn: NAY
USF: NAY
UC: NAY

Quote:The Jersey Guy has some inside info but is a sloppy journalist....always keep that in mind when reading his stuff.

It's not just Blaudschun any more. There have been a couple of others now, not just cites to Blaudschun. There was an AP article, for one.

The best source of revenue for the Big East football conference comes from exit fees. The conference is only temporary.