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RE: OT sort of. ULL investing big in athletic facilities.
(03-21-2013 07:47 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:45 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:31 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  Look, we are completely revamping our entire campus as well as the athletic facilities. Seems to me that some UNT posters are just hating on the Cajuns because our stadium will upstage Apogee. The hit on our attendance numbers is a weak attempt at smack talk. We averaged 24k with two monsoon games and a Tuesday night game. Even with crappy weather and a Tuesday night game we still averaged over 22k and UNT only managed 18,929k. In a metro area of over what 6 million?

If y'all get that thing built, Tech, NT, and even USM are probably toast. I don't think anyone at Tech or USM realizes the potential that exists in that sort of thing. They're mentally stuck in a 20,000-30,000 fan fishbowl that they don't even realize THEY made and control. They don't think about visiting fans or destination marketing. At Tech they think about dominating you, and USM fans are either resigned to the status quo or trapped in 1984 and think we can play our way into the Big XII.

ULL should build that monster, fill it up with A&M and Nebraska fans, and then send them off to New Orleans after the game. It's begging for a bowl game, too. It won't take you long to outgrow the SBC on the track I suggest... really, CUSA won't be big enough for you.

Between the coup-d'etat that we saw in the formation of the U of L system and this, I think ULL is on a real upward trajectory. I have grown from adolescence to late middle age waiting for USM to do these things. You are building the evil empire I wanted to build in Hattiesburg.

Can't tell if sarcasm.
It's not sarcasm at all. Everything I said is contingent on them actually building a high-capacity stadium, but if they do, sir, then you and I have been whistling past the graveyard. I have no doubt a capital project like that would succeed.

And the really horrible thing for both of us is that WE'VE just completed football facility improvements. Maybe you can, but I have a hard time imagining USM going to anyone right now and saying "whoops... we just built that new 36,000 stadium, but ULL skunked us with a 50,000 stadium and they're about to skip over us in class."

One potential compromise outcome might see Tech and ULL getting expansions. They've both got better sense than we do, apparently, and won't settle for 36,000 (with AAA baseball amenities). No, they'll build bleachers to hold the Aggies and Cornhuskers... like USM should have.

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RE: OT sort of. ULL investing big in athletic facilities.
(03-21-2013 07:48 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:35 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:24 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  How are they planning to fund all of that? My impression is that the whole U of L system is strapped for cash right now. I think people at UNO will flip out if ULL expands their stadium. I don't even want to think about how LA Tech would react.

And man... it just sucks that these people are thinking big but USM won't.

Private donations are already in hand for Phase I, roughly $20 million. Construction will start soon after the Spring Game on April 20th.

Phase II has a little less than half of the funds needed to begin construction. Phase II is planned to start within 3 years. Acadiana has an $8 billion dollar annual economy, so money is there if approached properly.

Wow... I'm pretty sure we spent more than that on our stadium expansion, and we're stuck at 36,000. Read my last post above if you care to know more. Between this and the Jackson Non-Eagle Dome, I'm pretty embarrassed.

I'm pretty sure the only football stadium expansion they have included in that phase 1 plan is 5k endzone seats
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RE: OT sort of. ULL investing big in athletic facilities.
(03-21-2013 07:49 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:46 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:43 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:41 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:19 PM)meangreener Wrote:  wouldn't be talking, usm fan...unt has NEVER gone 0-12...even with a high school head coach at the reins...

USM has 18 winning seasons out of the last 19 seasons. USM has been to bowl games 14 out of the last 16 years. USM was ranked in the top 20 2 years ago. USM football hasn't had back to back losing seasons since 1933-34. Believe me, you don't want to go where you are trying to go, but go ahead and compare UNT football to those numbers.

i don't really need to pull up statistics or history other than 0-12, it really does the talking for me.

btw, i totally respect usm and am extremely glad to be in a conference with y'all, no sarcasm. but you were clearly being the d!ck first.

Believe me, it wasn't hard to pull up all I needed to pull up....

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/...totals.php

Yup, no 0 win seasons. Kinda reminding me of Cowboy fans. That's not a good thing.

I have nothing against NT, but you are making a fool out of yourself with your fascination on our season last year. I just looked at your history. Currently on an 8 season streak of losing seasons with 1 season with 1 win, 3 seasons with 2 wins and 2 season with 3 wins in that current streak. Yea, you just keep harping on our season last year. USM had our first losing season in 19 years last year. Compared to your University, I will take that any day.
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RE: OT sort of. ULL investing big in athletic facilities.
(03-21-2013 07:48 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:35 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:24 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  How are they planning to fund all of that? My impression is that the whole U of L system is strapped for cash right now. I think people at UNO will flip out if ULL expands their stadium. I don't even want to think about how LA Tech would react.

And man... it just sucks that these people are thinking big but USM won't.

Private donations are already in hand for Phase I, roughly $20 million. Construction will start soon after the Spring Game on April 20th.

Phase II has a little less than half of the funds needed to begin construction. Phase II is planned to start within 3 years. Acadiana has an $8 billion dollar annual economy, so money is there if approached properly.

Wow... I'm pretty sure we spent more than that on our stadium expansion, and we're stuck at 36,000. Read my last post above if you care to know more. Between this and the Jackson Non-Eagle Dome, I'm pretty embarrassed.

Phase I is just adding 5900 seats in the South End Zone. That is all that is getting done for football during Phase I. The rest of the money will be spent on a Track Soccer locker room facility for Title IX reasons and I believe the expansion to the Moncla Indoor Practice Facility.

http://www.ragincajuns.com/custompages/P...-small.pdf

http://www.ragincajuns.com/custompages/P..._Final.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...3sA-O8axz4
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RE: OT sort of. ULL investing big in athletic facilities.
(03-21-2013 07:49 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:46 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:43 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:41 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:19 PM)meangreener Wrote:  wouldn't be talking, usm fan...unt has NEVER gone 0-12...even with a high school head coach at the reins...

USM has 18 winning seasons out of the last 19 seasons. USM has been to bowl games 14 out of the last 16 years. USM was ranked in the top 20 2 years ago. USM football hasn't had back to back losing seasons since 1933-34. Believe me, you don't want to go where you are trying to go, but go ahead and compare UNT football to those numbers.

i don't really need to pull up statistics or history other than 0-12, it really does the talking for me.

btw, i totally respect usm and am extremely glad to be in a conference with y'all, no sarcasm. but you were clearly being the d!ck first.

Believe me, it wasn't hard to pull up all I needed to pull up....

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/...totals.php

Yup, no 0 win seasons. Kinda reminding me of Cowboy fans. That's not a good thing.

Nobody cares about the lows. They add up accomplishments. LSU absolutely stunk for about 10 solid years... the 1990s were basically a lost decade. Do you think anyone gives a flip now? Is that what people think about when they think of LSU? Do people think about Archie Manning when you mention the Saints, or Russell Erxleben? God... the 0-12 season is the least of our worries. We both should be talking about how our facilities compare to that Cajun Monster.
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RE: OT sort of. ULL investing big in athletic facilities.
(03-21-2013 08:02 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:48 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:35 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:24 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  How are they planning to fund all of that? My impression is that the whole U of L system is strapped for cash right now. I think people at UNO will flip out if ULL expands their stadium. I don't even want to think about how LA Tech would react.

And man... it just sucks that these people are thinking big but USM won't.

Private donations are already in hand for Phase I, roughly $20 million. Construction will start soon after the Spring Game on April 20th.

Phase II has a little less than half of the funds needed to begin construction. Phase II is planned to start within 3 years. Acadiana has an $8 billion dollar annual economy, so money is there if approached properly.

Wow... I'm pretty sure we spent more than that on our stadium expansion, and we're stuck at 36,000. Read my last post above if you care to know more. Between this and the Jackson Non-Eagle Dome, I'm pretty embarrassed.

Phase I is just adding 5900 seats in the South End Zone. That is all that is getting done for football during Phase I. The rest of the money will be spent on a Track Soccer locker room facility for Title IX reasons and I believe the expansion to the Moncla Indoor Practice Facility.

http://www.ragincajuns.com/custompages/P...-small.pdf

http://www.ragincajuns.com/custompages/P..._Final.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...3sA-O8axz4

So where does that put your capacity?
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When USM played in the N.O. Bowl in Lafayette, the cajun food I ate at Blue Dog Cafe and Prejean's was unbelievable. I would love for ULL to be in this league just for the food, plus they are playing some great football these days.
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RE: OT sort of. ULL investing big in athletic facilities.
(03-21-2013 08:04 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 08:02 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:48 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:35 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:24 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  How are they planning to fund all of that? My impression is that the whole U of L system is strapped for cash right now. I think people at UNO will flip out if ULL expands their stadium. I don't even want to think about how LA Tech would react.

And man... it just sucks that these people are thinking big but USM won't.

Private donations are already in hand for Phase I, roughly $20 million. Construction will start soon after the Spring Game on April 20th.

Phase II has a little less than half of the funds needed to begin construction. Phase II is planned to start within 3 years. Acadiana has an $8 billion dollar annual economy, so money is there if approached properly.

Wow... I'm pretty sure we spent more than that on our stadium expansion, and we're stuck at 36,000. Read my last post above if you care to know more. Between this and the Jackson Non-Eagle Dome, I'm pretty embarrassed.

Phase I is just adding 5900 seats in the South End Zone. That is all that is getting done for football during Phase I. The rest of the money will be spent on a Track Soccer locker room facility for Title IX reasons and I believe the expansion to the Moncla Indoor Practice Facility.

http://www.ragincajuns.com/custompages/P...-small.pdf

http://www.ragincajuns.com/custompages/P..._Final.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...3sA-O8axz4

So where does that put your capacity?

The bowling of the South EZ will bring capacity to 36,900. But once we move towards Phase II we will tear down the current Upper Deck reducing capacity for one season.

Phase I, II & III will be completed within 5 years. Phases IV & V will likely never be completed.
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Gaaaaaaaah... I just flipped through that document... it's all falling apart! Why does USM not have something like that?? If USM sent me that in the mail and asked for money I would empty my bank accounts. How are we getting wrong-footed by a team we used to toy with?!?
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(03-21-2013 08:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:49 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:46 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:43 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:41 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  USM has 18 winning seasons out of the last 19 seasons. USM has been to bowl games 14 out of the last 16 years. USM was ranked in the top 20 2 years ago. USM football hasn't had back to back losing seasons since 1933-34. Believe me, you don't want to go where you are trying to go, but go ahead and compare UNT football to those numbers.

i don't really need to pull up statistics or history other than 0-12, it really does the talking for me.

btw, i totally respect usm and am extremely glad to be in a conference with y'all, no sarcasm. but you were clearly being the d!ck first.

Believe me, it wasn't hard to pull up all I needed to pull up....

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/...totals.php

Yup, no 0 win seasons. Kinda reminding me of Cowboy fans. That's not a good thing.

Nobody cares about the lows. They add up accomplishments. LSU absolutely stunk for about 10 solid years... the 1990s were basically a lost decade. Do you think anyone gives a flip now? Is that what people think about when they think of LSU? Do people think about Archie Manning when you mention the Saints, or Russell Erxleben? God... the 0-12 season is the least of our worries. We both should be talking about how our facilities compare to that Cajun Monster.

so you're saying that what you do recently is all that matters by bringing up lsu. nobody cares about lsu sucking because they're good now. now i'm really confused.

and why would i be worried about the cajun stadium? they don't understand supply and demand. our stadium is leed certified, self-sustainable, modern, ridiculous with amenities, unique and imposing from the freeway, and has a fantastic tailgate area and has a capacity appropriate for our fanbase.
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(03-21-2013 08:11 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 08:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:49 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:46 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:43 PM)meangreener Wrote:  i don't really need to pull up statistics or history other than 0-12, it really does the talking for me.

btw, i totally respect usm and am extremely glad to be in a conference with y'all, no sarcasm. but you were clearly being the d!ck first.

Believe me, it wasn't hard to pull up all I needed to pull up....

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/...totals.php

Yup, no 0 win seasons. Kinda reminding me of Cowboy fans. That's not a good thing.

Nobody cares about the lows. They add up accomplishments. LSU absolutely stunk for about 10 solid years... the 1990s were basically a lost decade. Do you think anyone gives a flip now? Is that what people think about when they think of LSU? Do people think about Archie Manning when you mention the Saints, or Russell Erxleben? God... the 0-12 season is the least of our worries. We both should be talking about how our facilities compare to that Cajun Monster.

so you're saying that what you do recently is all that matters by bringing up lsu. nobody cares about lsu sucking because they're good now. now i'm really confused.

and why would i be worried about the cajun stadium? they don't understand supply and demand. our stadium is leed certified, self-sustainable, modern, ridiculous with amenities, unique and imposing from the freeway, and has a fantastic tailgate area and has a capacity too big for our fanbase.

Fixed it for you.
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Would Tech & USM want ULL in CUSA if it looks like they could over take both of us?
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(03-21-2013 08:15 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  Would Tech & USM want ULL in CUSA if it looks like they could over take both of us?

If it came to a vote La Tech would support UL getting into CUSA. The UL reps on the ULS board supported the attempt to take over LSUS and have voted to approve all other improvements brought to the table by La Tech. La Tech's enemy within the state is ULM & LSU, just like UL's.
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(03-21-2013 08:15 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  Would Tech & USM want ULL in CUSA if it looks like they could over take both of us?

Absolutely in my opinion. Strong programs are good for the whole league. USM and Tech will be fine. They won't be overtaken by ULL.
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(03-21-2013 08:11 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 08:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:49 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:46 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:43 PM)meangreener Wrote:  i don't really need to pull up statistics or history other than 0-12, it really does the talking for me.

btw, i totally respect usm and am extremely glad to be in a conference with y'all, no sarcasm. but you were clearly being the d!ck first.

Believe me, it wasn't hard to pull up all I needed to pull up....

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/...totals.php

Yup, no 0 win seasons. Kinda reminding me of Cowboy fans. That's not a good thing.

Nobody cares about the lows. They add up accomplishments. LSU absolutely stunk for about 10 solid years... the 1990s were basically a lost decade. Do you think anyone gives a flip now? Is that what people think about when they think of LSU? Do people think about Archie Manning when you mention the Saints, or Russell Erxleben? God... the 0-12 season is the least of our worries. We both should be talking about how our facilities compare to that Cajun Monster.

so you're saying that what you do recently is all that matters by bringing up lsu. nobody cares about lsu sucking because they're good now. now i'm really confused.

and why would i be worried about the cajun stadium? they don't understand supply and demand. our stadium is leed certified, self-sustainable, modern, ridiculous with amenities, unique and imposing from the freeway, and has a fantastic tailgate area and has a capacity appropriate for our fanbase.

No; I'm saying that people care about the highs. Nobody cares if you win one game, five games, zero games, or three games in an off year. They look at your accomplishments. Hell, if consistency were everything, USM would have been gone to the Big East or better long before 2012. Please don't "play dumb" with me.... I understand you're embroiled in a pissing contest, but we all know the rules of the game here.

And all that crap about being "LEED certified" and having an appropriately sized stadium? That's an embarrassment. If ECU can fill a big stadium, you could, too... IF you wanted to. But you'll need to ditch that family-friendly AAA baseball mentality first. Doing so is CENTRAL to anything resembling success at either of oyr schools.
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(03-21-2013 08:15 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 08:11 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 08:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:49 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:46 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Believe me, it wasn't hard to pull up all I needed to pull up....

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/...totals.php

Yup, no 0 win seasons. Kinda reminding me of Cowboy fans. That's not a good thing.

Nobody cares about the lows. They add up accomplishments. LSU absolutely stunk for about 10 solid years... the 1990s were basically a lost decade. Do you think anyone gives a flip now? Is that what people think about when they think of LSU? Do people think about Archie Manning when you mention the Saints, or Russell Erxleben? God... the 0-12 season is the least of our worries. We both should be talking about how our facilities compare to that Cajun Monster.

so you're saying that what you do recently is all that matters by bringing up lsu. nobody cares about lsu sucking because they're good now. now i'm really confused.

and why would i be worried about the cajun stadium? they don't understand supply and demand. our stadium is leed certified, self-sustainable, modern, ridiculous with amenities, unique and imposing from the freeway, and has a fantastic tailgate area and has a capacity too big for our fanbase.

Fixed it for you.

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there are countless other similarly attended games. dfw only supports a winner, or comes out when they know who we're playing.
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(03-21-2013 08:19 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 08:11 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 08:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:49 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:46 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Believe me, it wasn't hard to pull up all I needed to pull up....

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/...totals.php

Yup, no 0 win seasons. Kinda reminding me of Cowboy fans. That's not a good thing.

Nobody cares about the lows. They add up accomplishments. LSU absolutely stunk for about 10 solid years... the 1990s were basically a lost decade. Do you think anyone gives a flip now? Is that what people think about when they think of LSU? Do people think about Archie Manning when you mention the Saints, or Russell Erxleben? God... the 0-12 season is the least of our worries. We both should be talking about how our facilities compare to that Cajun Monster.

so you're saying that what you do recently is all that matters by bringing up lsu. nobody cares about lsu sucking because they're good now. now i'm really confused.

and why would i be worried about the cajun stadium? they don't understand supply and demand. our stadium is leed certified, self-sustainable, modern, ridiculous with amenities, unique and imposing from the freeway, and has a fantastic tailgate area and has a capacity appropriate for our fanbase.

No; I'm saying that people care about the highs. Nobody cares if you win one game, five games, zero games, or three games in an off year. They look at your accomplishments. Hell, if consistency was everything, USM would have been long gone to the Big East or better long before 2012. Please don't "play dumb" with me.... I understand you're embroiled in a pissing contest, but we all know the rules of the game here.

And all that crap about being "LEED certified" and having an appropriately sized stadium? That's an embarrassment. If ECU can fill a big stadium, you could, too... IF you wanted to. But you'll need to ditch that family-friendly AAA baseball mentality first. Doing so is CENTRAL to anything resembling success at either of oyr schools.

apogee is built to be expanded in 6 months by adding a second level over the student side. i think we know what we're doing. nice try.
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(03-21-2013 08:18 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 08:15 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  Would Tech & USM want ULL in CUSA if it looks like they could over take both of us?

Absolutely in my opinion. Strong programs are good for the whole league. USM and Tech will be fine. They won't be overtaken by ULL.

Tech might have to find a way to keep up with the Jones if ULL ends up building that stadium like that and they have to agree that they're name is University of Louisiana at Lafayette
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The purpose of the phase 1 expansion of the stadium (bowling in the South endzone) is to allow for the the construction of the Upper deck without displacing fans while construction is being done. Below is a (very detailed) link to the entire plan. The money will not be a problem. Despite the state budget cuts, the university has spend a couple hundred million on campus updates in the last few years, all of which is paid for. The luxury boxes have prospective tenents that have already made committments. The rent of these will provide a lot of the money to service the debt. The money will not be a problem.

BTW, The Cajuns have set attendence records For the New Orleans Bowl 2 years running. Ask the Pirate fans who attended the NO Bowl what their impressions of the Cajun fans was.

http://www.ragincajuns.com/custompages/P..._Final.pdf
03-21-2013 08:22 PM
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RE: OT sort of. ULL investing big in athletic facilities.
(03-21-2013 08:21 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 08:19 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 08:11 PM)meangreener Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 08:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-21-2013 07:49 PM)meangreener Wrote:  Yup, no 0 win seasons. Kinda reminding me of Cowboy fans. That's not a good thing.

Nobody cares about the lows. They add up accomplishments. LSU absolutely stunk for about 10 solid years... the 1990s were basically a lost decade. Do you think anyone gives a flip now? Is that what people think about when they think of LSU? Do people think about Archie Manning when you mention the Saints, or Russell Erxleben? God... the 0-12 season is the least of our worries. We both should be talking about how our facilities compare to that Cajun Monster.

so you're saying that what you do recently is all that matters by bringing up lsu. nobody cares about lsu sucking because they're good now. now i'm really confused.

and why would i be worried about the cajun stadium? they don't understand supply and demand. our stadium is leed certified, self-sustainable, modern, ridiculous with amenities, unique and imposing from the freeway, and has a fantastic tailgate area and has a capacity appropriate for our fanbase.

No; I'm saying that people care about the highs. Nobody cares if you win one game, five games, zero games, or three games in an off year. They look at your accomplishments. Hell, if consistency was everything, USM would have been long gone to the Big East or better long before 2012. Please don't "play dumb" with me.... I understand you're embroiled in a pissing contest, but we all know the rules of the game here.

And all that crap about being "LEED certified" and having an appropriately sized stadium? That's an embarrassment. If ECU can fill a big stadium, you could, too... IF you wanted to. But you'll need to ditch that family-friendly AAA baseball mentality first. Doing so is CENTRAL to anything resembling success at either of oyr schools.

apogee is built to be expanded in 6 months by adding a second level over the student side. i think we know what we're doing. nice try.

And where will that put your capacity?
03-21-2013 08:23 PM
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