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RE: ODU lobbying for JMU to CUSA
(04-19-2013 11:45 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  JMU can provide CUSA an entry (just an entry/foot in the door) to DC/NOVA.

The point to all this is that ODU can claim the same thing. ODU gets occasional coverage in DC when we are winning, no different than JMU. So, why would CUSA want to add a 2nd team in VA when the significant markets are covered?
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RE: ODU lobbying for JMU to CUSA
(04-19-2013 12:06 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  
(04-19-2013 11:45 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  JMU can provide CUSA an entry (just an entry/foot in the door) to DC/NOVA.

The point to all this is that ODU can claim the same thing. ODU gets occasional coverage in DC when we are winning, no different than JMU. So, why would CUSA want to add a 2nd team in VA when the significant markets are covered?

If CUSA believes that ODU provides that, then JMU won't be invited. Pretty simple.
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RE: ODU lobbying for JMU to CUSA
There are a whole lot of us in the DC market--with logos displayed proudly. I probably see more JMU stickers displayed around here than ODU, but it is what it is. Just alumni displaying their stuff. The DC area probably has more schools displayed than any market in the US given its transient nature. That's probably why GMU has never been able to claim its local support over the years. It's not that the area has pro sports. With 6 million people surely Mason should be able to claim it's share. The difference is that people here support 1,000 different things including JMU and ODU, so there is no claiming this market. Even the Redskins cannot claim the entire stadium. Sometimes when the Steelers, Cowboys, or Giants are in town, you don't even know who is at home. The area is just to diverse and dynamic.

That small school focus sitting in Shenandoah has clearly served JMU well and enrollment has more than doubled since I was in HS looking at the possibility. Not a thing wrong with that. And if it isn't attractive to a FBS conference, so what? JMU is still growing and popular without a claim of Washington DC, which is a stretch at best. Good luck.
(This post was last modified: 04-20-2013 10:12 AM by FearTheLion.)
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RE: ODU lobbying for JMU to CUSA
I think that we must remember that we are often reacting to what we read by internet message board posters.
All of the speculation; from some fans who think JMU has it's pick of a number of conferences including the ACC and the B1G, to those who feel that JMU will stay where it is, seems to be just that, speculation

So, here is my speculation! COGS

The reality of JMU's situation may indeed be predominantly financial, and not one driven by the need for like institutional, philosophical, and/or academic peers.

Here is what we know for sure:
1. JMU AD Bourne stated in 2011 (re moving to FBS)
Quote:I think it is very likely something like this could happen, I would guess you could see movement in 18-24 months.


2. The expanded Bridgeforth stadium seems to be tailor made for FBS. It is FBS ready now with the potential to double it's capacity.

3. JMU is poised to make a sizable investment in basketball, necessary to be more attractive to an FBS conference, with the 2011 BOV approval of a new 2014 convocation center. The General Assembly then approved funding (88,000,000) through bonds in 2012.

4. JMU, along with Delaware, was involved in the discussions when ODU first spoke to CUSA.

5. ODU AD Selig continues to promote JMU to CUSA

Here is what is likely:
1. JMU was also contacted by the MAC and the WAC in 2012, the MAC possibly earlier and again more recently. (according to media sources).

2. JMU has been contacted by the SBC is 2013.


What would keep JMU from acting?

The upgraded Bridgeforth has had very few sell outs. There may be some question as to whether JMU football support has maxed out locally. If less than 25k is all that can expected, at least in the foreseeable future, then a move up is problematic.
Certainly the missed playoff opportunity at Bridgeforth was an "epic fail"; but was there an extenuating financial issue as the root cause?

The Harrisonburg community is, at best, ambivalent to the university (according to anything and everything I have ever read). This could limit the prospective number of attendees to local events, and limit the number and size of local corporate donations.
ODU, VCU, and ECU as examples; local corporate donations and local event support far exceed those of just alumni and students.
Is this missing from the JMU equation?

I am not sure of the disposition of the new James Madison convo, but it seems to be delayed.
Again, is there now a question of long term support and thus a reticence to spend the money?

Does JMU have "sugar daddies" - Zable[estate](W&M), Weinstein and Ballard(ODU), or Robins(UR) to fall back on when needed?

State funding has decreased as of late, and it appears that that trend will continue.

Title IX

Real or perceived, there may be serious fiscal issues prompting the "delayed reaction" of JMU to apparent opportunities that would take it to the next level.
(This post was last modified: 04-22-2013 10:40 AM by ODUalum78.)
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