The Obama machine is going to use this to destroy Hillary and pick their own candidate.

Doubt it. There is a reason this story hasn't gained traction. It only registers to people who want it to register. It's a manufactured angle that only registers with people who weren't voting for Hillary anyways.

(04-30-2013 12:41 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Doubt it. There is a reason this story hasn't gained traction. It only registers to people who want it to register. It's a manufactured angle that only registers with people who weren't voting for Hillary anyways.

"It only registers to people who want it to register."

Let that sink in. These are four American Patriots, dedicated to serving the United States, and left to be slaughtered, dragged from their homes to the streets of some God forsaken land they had been assigned to and you say it's "manufactured"? And thus, dismiss it as a "story"? Or angle?

You Leftists really need to look around for a change. Understand where the bread is coming from. Who provides for you, who takes from you. Who has their hand in your pocket, daily? Gubment, or private folks?

If there is any US Military Intervention in Syria then Libyia (and Benghazi) will stay on the Radar.

(04-30-2013 12:41 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Doubt it. There is a reason this story hasn't gained traction. It only registers to people who want it to register. It's a manufactured angle that only registers with people who weren't voting for Hillary anyways.

Nothing to see here....WHAT DOES IT MATTER(the statement that ended a presidential campaign before it started).

So do we need to show pictures of the 10 or so attacks that happened at Embassy's during Bush's watch? You "douchebags" (your word) that try to make a political issue out of a tragedy is the reason it is not registering with the general public. Thank God 9-11 didn't happen on a D's watch. Can you imagine what crazy things you guys would have come up with if O was told a month before that Al Quadea was trying to attack the consulate and say "you've covered your butt now" and gone golfing? It's disgusting the depths you guys go to, but keep on keepin on in the bubble. It's safer that way.

Mach, here's what I don't get. Bush is the "worst president in history." The strongest defense you can mount for Obama is that he's better than Bush, or that the same things happened under Bush. But Obama somehow belongs on Mt. Rushmore. Huh?

It's showing the hypocrisy. Do you guys even know the names of the embassies or the consulates that were attacked in 2000-2008? Now take a second and have a little introspection for once. Could it be someone is manipulating you? Has that thought ever crossed your mind? Trying to politicize a tragedy. It's sickening and when Hillary is President in 2016 you guys will continue to rehash this in 2020. You guys never get to the 5th stage of acceptance in the cycle of grieving.

So the fact that this embassy asked for more security and were denied and the fact that they asked for help once the attack started and were denied matter not? All that matters is that other embassy personnel have died so, eh?

2002
June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb explodes outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.


2003 1
May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers kill 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.

2004
May 29–31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including one American.
June 11–19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks.
Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.

2005
Nov. 9, Amman, Jordan: suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility.

2006
Sept. 13, Damascus, Syria: an attack by four gunman on the American embassy is foiled.

2007
Jan. 12, Athens, Greece: the U.S. embassy is fired on by an anti-tank missile causing damage but no injuries.
Dec. 11, Algeria: more than 60 people are killed, including 11 United Nations staff members, when Al Qaeda terrorists detonate two car bombs near Algeria's Constitutional Council and the United Nations offices.
2008
May 26, Iraq: a suicide bomber on a motorcycle kills six U.S. soldiers and wounds 18 others in Tarmiya.
June 24, Iraq: a suicide bomber kills at least 20 people, including three U.S. Marines, at a meeting between sheiks and Americans in Karmah, a town west of Baghdad.
June 12, Afghanistan: four American servicemen are killed when a roadside bomb explodes near a U.S. military vehicle in Farah Province.
July 13, Afghanistan: nine U.S.soldiers and at least 15 NATO troops die when Taliban militants boldly attack an American base in Kunar Province, which borders Pakistan. It's the most deadly against U.S. troops in three years.
Aug. 18 and 19, Afghanistan: as many as 15 suicide bombers backed by about 30 militants attack a U.S. military base, Camp Salerno, in Bamiyan. Fighting between U.S. troops and members of the Taliban rages overnight. No U.S. troops are killed.
Sept. 16, Yemen: a car bomb and a rocket strike the U.S. embassy in Yemen as staff arrived to work, killing 16 people, including 4 civilians. At least 25 suspected al-Qaeda militants are arrested for the attack.


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WHAT MATTERS is that you guys couldn't even give me a name of two of the above attacks but know the intricate details surrounding Benghazi? Why do you think that is? Hmmmmmm. Could it possibly be........ politicizing a national tragedy??? Is that even possible? Nahhh.......

(04-30-2013 07:17 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It's showing the hypocrisy. Do you guys even know the names of the embassies or the consulates that were attacked in 2000-2008? Now take a second and have a little introspection for once. Could it be someone is manipulating you? Has that thought ever crossed your mind? Trying to politicize a tragedy. It's sickening and when Hillary is President in 2016 you guys will continue to rehash this in 2020. You guys never get to the 5th stage of acceptance in the cycle of grieving.

Mach, if all you can ever say to defend Obama is that "Bush was worse," then your case for putting him anywhere near Mt. Rushmore is pretty weak at best.

And hypocrisy is a double-edged sword. What is the difference between the right attacking Obama/Hillary for Benghazi and ignoring the attacks under Bush, and the left pointing out the attacks under Bush and ignoring Benghazi? Shouldn't there be one standard for both?

If Benghazi doesn't matter, then the attacks under Bush don't matter. If the attacks under Bush matter, then Benghazi matters. It's got to be one way or the other. As for me, they both matter. Neither Bush nor Obama has pursued a foreign policy relative to the Middle East that makes any sense at all to this Middle East hand.

Did we blame Reagan for the Beirut bombing? Tragedies happen guys. We used to come together after them and didn't try to score political points. I guess that can only happen during a R administration.

(04-30-2013 07:37 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Did we blame Reagan for the Beirut bombing? Tragedies happen guys. We used to come together after them and didn't try to score political points. I guess that can only happen during a R administration.

This coming from the war for oil guy and blood money in the Middle East.. Get over yourself Machiavelli

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I mean the main stream media harped on Bush's intelligence failures week after week month after month? Noooooo! Bush wasn't briefed on on Aug 6th that Bin Laden was determined to strike in the US? Yesssss If that were reversed you guys would be calling for impeachment. It's how you guys roll and it's pathetic. Benghazi registers with the finger pointers of the world.

(04-30-2013 07:45 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I mean the main stream media harped on Bush's intelligence failures week after week month after month. Bush wasn't briefed on on Aug 6th that Bin Laden was determined to strike in the US. If that were reversed you guys would be calling for impeachment. It's how you guys roll and it's pathetic. Benghazi registers with the finger pointers of the world.

The irony in this post is nauseating

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(04-30-2013 12:41 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Doubt it. There is a reason this story hasn't gained traction. It only registers to people who want it to register. It's a manufactured angle that only registers with people who weren't voting for Hillary anyways.

It hasn't gained traction because it reflects poorly on Hillary Clinton, and doesn't register with people who WILL vote for her come hell or high water.

(04-30-2013 07:37 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Did we blame Reagan for the Beirut bombing?

I heard lots of people do just that.

(04-30-2013 07:27 AM)Paul M Wrote:  So the fact that this embassy asked for more security and were denied and the fact that they asked for help once the attack started and were denied matter not? All that matters is that other embassy personnel have died so, eh?

Paul, nearly every embassy asks for more resources and security. At some point you have to blame...ya know...the ones who actually killed the Americans.

So we either dump more millions and millions into security and station more Americans overseas, or we close all the embassies.

Which would you like to do?

(04-30-2013 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-30-2013 07:27 AM)Paul M Wrote:  So the fact that this embassy asked for more security and were denied and the fact that they asked for help once the attack started and were denied matter not? All that matters is that other embassy personnel have died so, eh?

Paul, nearly every embassy asks for more resources and security. At some point you have to blame...ya know...the ones who actually killed the Americans.

So we either dump more millions and millions into security and station more Americans overseas, or we close all the embassies.

Which would you like to do?

The problem is Obama didn't blame them....

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