(06-26-2013 08:59 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 02:04 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  I was not counting UMass since it is just one sport. Buffalo really is not that bad heck if it was not for an old agreement with PA the area around Erie would have been part of NY and they would be contiguous.

There's one Congressional district in Ohio that's only continuous by using Lake Erie. If water continuity works for rigging the House of Representatives, it ought to count for sports conferences.

Won't work they are connected by PA water not NY water...

(06-26-2013 09:01 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-26-2013 08:59 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 02:04 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  I was not counting UMass since it is just one sport. Buffalo really is not that bad heck if it was not for an old agreement with PA the area around Erie would have been part of NY and they would be contiguous.

There's one Congressional district in Ohio that's only continuous by using Lake Erie. If water continuity works for rigging the House of Representatives, it ought to count for sports conferences.

The AAC isn't contiguous either now that Maryland is gone yet there isn't a strong suggestion that Pittsburgh, Syracuse and BC belong in a different college.

When was Maryland a member of the AAC?

(06-27-2013 03:14 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-26-2013 09:01 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  The AAC isn't contiguous either now that Maryland is gone yet there isn't a strong suggestion that Pittsburgh, Syracuse and BC belong in a different college.

When was Maryland a member of the AAC?

I reckon he meant to type ACC, given that BC is a member, Pittsburgh and Syracuse join on Monday and July 1 next year Maryland will be leaving. This coming year is a brief period of contiguity, with BC on an island until Monday and BC, Syracuse and Pitt being on a bigger island starting 2014.

(06-27-2013 12:55 AM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  Won't work they are connected by PA water not NY water...

I don't reckon the water knows the difference.

(06-27-2013 05:03 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 03:14 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-26-2013 09:01 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  The AAC isn't contiguous either now that Maryland is gone yet there isn't a strong suggestion that Pittsburgh, Syracuse and BC belong in a different college.

When was Maryland a member of the AAC?

I reckon he meant to type ACC, given that BC is a member, Pittsburgh and Syracuse join on Monday and July 1 next year Maryland will be leaving. This coming year is a brief period of contiguity, with BC on an island until Monday and BC, Syracuse and Pitt being on a bigger island starting 2014.

(06-27-2013 12:55 AM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  Won't work they are connected by PA water not NY water...

I don't reckon the water knows the difference.

I don't think the land knows the difference either.

(06-27-2013 06:14 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 05:03 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  I don't reckon the water knows the difference.

I don't think the land knows the difference either.

Yes, but the same water will be in Ohio at one time and New York another. Unlike parts of California, the land in these parts mostly stays put.

(06-27-2013 06:51 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 06:14 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 05:03 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  I don't reckon the water knows the difference.

I don't think the land knows the difference either.

Yes, but the same water will be in Ohio at one time and New York another. Unlike parts of California, the land in these parts mostly stays put.

That is a hopeful way of looking at the MWC for Hawaii.

(06-27-2013 06:56 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 06:51 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 06:14 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 05:03 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  I don't reckon the water knows the difference.

I don't think the land knows the difference either.

Yes, but the same water will be in Ohio at one time and New York another. Unlike parts of California, the land in these parts mostly stays put.

That is a hopeful way of looking at the MWC for Hawaii.

Well they actually do share a water border...so to speak. Besides that does not work as there are no major land masses between California and Hawaii to claim the water between the two. PA does have a water border between NY and OH.

Just take a look at google maps.

See the border Ohio does not border NY even if it is close.

(06-27-2013 11:58 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  PA does have a water border between NY and OH.

Just take a look at google maps.

See the border Ohio does not border NY even if it is close.

My point exactly: lines on a map. You are confusing the map with the territory if you think the lines on the map means that any state (or province) bordering Lake Erie does not share water with any other state (or province) bordering Lake Erie.

If you'll recall, that's why it was so damn hard to clean Lake Erie up in the 70's and 80's.

(06-28-2013 02:26 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 11:58 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  PA does have a water border between NY and OH.

Just take a look at google maps.

See the border Ohio does not border NY even if it is close.

My point exactly: lines on a map. You are confusing the map with the territory if you think the lines on the map means that any state (or province) bordering Lake Erie does not share water with any other state (or province) bordering Lake Erie.

If you'll recall, that's why it was so damn hard to clean Lake Erie up in the 70's and 80's.

But we are not talking about the water are we as we are talking about borders that happen to be on the water. If you take a boat from Cleveland and head North you do run eventually into Canada and if you are in their territorial waters then you are in Canada regardless if that same water will eventually go into the US. Same applies to state borders and it is sometimes important in relation to law enforcement for instance. The state of NY only possess a border with one other state via water only and that is the state of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations. It does not share one with Ohio. In fact NY has deals with states that share borders with them for fishing licenses. A NY license would do no good with Ohio waters because NY has no deals with non-border states.